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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:04:27 GMT -6
Town wins on a Heebs vigilante kill of Timpig
discuss.
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 9:07:50 GMT -6
Fuck that shit.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:07:57 GMT -6
So in the future, I think secret roles either need to be described beforehand or revealed on a cop's investigation
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:08:59 GMT -6
that game had so many twists and turns. we were a changed decision away from pete being barmanned on night one and JHB being safe for at least another day
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:09:16 GMT -6
I equate that to Nick Young jacking up some ill advised shot with the game on the line instead of going to the bench for a timeout and regrouping and working together to set up a play. Luckily, the shot went in.
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Post by eric on Jul 19, 2017 9:09:50 GMT -6
gotta tip my hat to 20s on this one, when he's right he's right: Everyone should definitely go with gumshoe Herb who has hit another one out of the park. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:10:25 GMT -6
So in the future, I think secret roles either need to be described beforehand or revealed on a cop's investigation yea, I agree. I think I went a bit too far with the masked vigilante part. I liked the thought of both the don and the vigilante being revealed as a vanilla civ but it didn't play out as expected. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:10:38 GMT -6
So in the future, I think secret roles either need to be described beforehand or revealed on a cop's investigation Agree. Not trying to pile on canes but I really did not like the aspect of not knowing what parameters I was even playing the game under. Made certain things feel pointless instead of strategic. |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:10:44 GMT -6
:forestgumpwave:
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:11:13 GMT -6
I think ive said all i wanted to say
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:11:42 GMT -6
I equate that to Nick Young jacking up some ill advised shot with the game on the line instead of going to the bench for a timeout and regrouping and working together to set up a play. Luckily, the shot went in. this is exactly what happened imo. It was win or go home either this night phase or next day phase. Heebs did what heebs does and took the shot himself. It dropped. But hey, he was right so he gets to parade that around. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:11:44 GMT -6
gotta tip my hat to 20s on this one, when he's right he's right: Everyone should definitely go with gumshoe Herb who has hit another one out of the park. That was in response to his novel trying to paint me as mafia (where he was wrong). |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:11:53 GMT -6
I equate that to Nick Young jacking up some ill advised shot with the game on the line instead of going to the bench for a timeout and regrouping and working together to set up a play. Luckily, the shot went in. WRONG. There was only downside to letting that go to daytime. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:14:08 GMT -6
So in the future, I think secret roles either need to be described beforehand or revealed on a cop's investigation Agree. Not trying to pile on canes but I really did not like the aspect of not knowing what parameters I was even playing the game under. Made certain things feel pointless instead of strategic. I completely understand. It definitely wasn't a perfect set up. It also was pretty awful luck in terms of having a good game that by the beginning of day 2 both the silencer and barman were found leaving just the don who had pretty much zero voting history. I felt bad but at that point there was nothing I could do. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 19, 2017 9:14:40 GMT -6
I mean you made a guess and you were right but it was more likely SPL would turn on Tim than you so that was pretty dumb
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:15:34 GMT -6
There were 3 people left. The outcomes were we killed SPL, Tim, or me. By taking the shot, I took me (a townie) out of the picture and prevented Tim from framing me and SPL buying it.
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:16:10 GMT -6
Where was the other secret role that supposedly existed
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:16:18 GMT -6
Since heebs was town, I think he was right to take the shot. You couldn't trust what either said in that last round and I don't think talking it out would've revealed much more. THere's always a chance that TimPig overplays his hand pushing for SPL or Heebs, but there's just as good a chance that SPL or heebs latches on to something the other said and leads the charge in the wrong direction.
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:16:57 GMT -6
I mean you made a guess and you were right but it was more likely SPL would turn on Tim than you so that was pretty dumb Right, so if SPL votes for Tim, Tim has to vote for SPL. So I've got the same choice I just had. There was a daytime outcome where I died. There was never a chance I was taking that risk. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:17:29 GMT -6
SPL did seem to be trusting of Heebs, so I think we would've gotten it in the final vote
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 19, 2017 9:17:40 GMT -6
I mean you made a guess and you were right but it was more likely SPL would turn on Tim than you so that was pretty dumb Right, so if SPL votes for Tim, Tim has to vote for SPL. So I've got the same choice I just had. There was a daytime outcome where I died. There was never a chance I was taking that risk. There was a night time outcome where you guessed wrong |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:17:50 GMT -6
There were 3 people left. The outcomes were we killed SPL, Tim, or me. By taking the shot, I took me (a townie) out of the picture and prevented Tim from framing me and SPL buying it. You're right about this - it's basically the Monty Hall probability problem but with even more info provided. But you still acted completely on your own accord and without assistance from Pete which was risky. |
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:18:15 GMT -6
I think taking the shot was the right call
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:18:45 GMT -6
gotta tip my hat to 20s on this one, when he's right he's right: That was in response to his novel trying to paint me as mafia (where he was wrong). Sorry for killing you. You said too many nice things about me and as a self-loathing jew I don't trust that |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 9:19:22 GMT -6
SPL did seem to be trusting of Heebs, so I think we would've gotten it in the final vote I feel I really did want to let you live to the last day. I felt SPL and Heebs were more trusting of each other than me. You're always difficult to read, but you seemed to favor me over Fecta and SPL. |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:19:55 GMT -6
There were 3 people left. The outcomes were we killed SPL, Tim, or me. By taking the shot, I took me (a townie) out of the picture and prevented Tim from framing me and SPL buying it. You're right about this - it's basically the Monty Hall probability problem but with even more info provided. But you still acted completely on your own accord and without assistance from Pete which was risky. I asked Pete for input before the day was over. Pete didn't give input. When Canes asked for my night move, I told him I needed to review the thread for what Pete had said. Saying I didn't try to take Pete's input into account is ignorant. |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:20:37 GMT -6
Right, so if SPL votes for Tim, Tim has to vote for SPL. So I've got the same choice I just had. There was a daytime outcome where I died. There was never a chance I was taking that risk. There was a night time outcome where you guessed wrong You're so salty and I LOVE it. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:22:59 GMT -6
You're right about this - it's basically the Monty Hall probability problem but with even more info provided. But you still acted completely on your own accord and without assistance from Pete which was risky. I asked Pete for input before the day was over. Pete didn't give input. When Canes asked for my night move, I told him I needed to review the thread for what Pete had said. Saying I didn't try to take Pete's input into account is ignorant. I saw that too late to respond, but I probably would've steered you in the wrong direction. My feeling last night was SPL over Tim |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:23:00 GMT -6
Where was the other secret role that supposedly existed the dead civs having a chance to talk to the town |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 9:24:01 GMT -6
Canes list all the roles you handed out and who had them
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