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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:13:04 GMT -6
That was bothering me too because I was worried Bankz would be Moffatt or Dooku and Tim may have still been Godfather
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Post by Delap on Aug 15, 2017 16:16:46 GMT -6
Yeah, that particular angle made no sense.
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Post by Delap on Aug 15, 2017 16:18:29 GMT -6
Dead Civs deserve a ton of credit. We may have won without Yoda, but the odds would've been awful. I probably would've turned on JHB.
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Post by Bankz on Aug 15, 2017 16:18:48 GMT -6
A lot of things broke bad for the Mafia. Especially late... We didn't expect the Yoda role to be used and once it was we were screwed. Yeah and that was good gameplay by Yoda to hold onto it to keep that info from the mafia and bad play by the mafia to be the only players not claiming a role. A vanilla reb would have had no reason not to come forward with their role and there weren't any more power roles. We were on a roll. Outside of GBG no one was sniffing Fecta and I.. Delap hit on GBG and Fecta with his visits to close the game out on back to back nights it forced us to choose roles we never had a job of being convincing. Had there been no Yoda we stood a chance on my hail marry. There was no chance if we both went vanilla Civ. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:19:45 GMT -6
i feel like anytime i die day 1 the person i voted for has been maf stop killing me for baseless reasons You are the sole reason for being voted off. I saw you crying a river in shout about it. The answers you gave where terrible and literally half the game voted yoynoff seconds after you made them You are so very wrong. I was killed because maf was protecting maf and 20s went along with it. THERE IS NEVER A SINGLE GOOD REASON FOR A FUCKING DAY 1 VOTE. EVER. No evidence of anything at all whatsoever. Killing off the players who have the biggest skill gap between maf and civ is the only logical call. Those two people are gbg and jhb. Not ony that, they are highly volatile. Attacking them early gives out more info on them than anything else that can be done. If you guys want to ignore what I try to do for the town is your own god damn loss. Your "you might so something dumb and hurt the town" logic is highly flawed. I've never done anything late game to hurt the town. Hell, I've only ever actually hurt the town once (canes first game) So sure, go ahead and kill me because I have an actual reason for my day 1 votes instead of doing random shit each game based on gut feeling and shit. I repeat, there is never a good reason for a day 1 vote except to try to trigger someone. Anything else is just random votes and bandwagonning. But someone has to die and why not people who are actually good in the mafia roles rather than someone who isnt that great in them. But i get your vote this game, you were protecting gbg. I, however, dont understand 20s vote at all. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:20:55 GMT -6
I know delap blocked the deceiver role on tim.
Which other one did he block?
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:21:55 GMT -6
Yeah and that was good gameplay by Yoda to hold onto it to keep that info from the mafia and bad play by the mafia to be the only players not claiming a role. A vanilla reb would have had no reason not to come forward with their role and there weren't any more power roles. We were on a roll. Outside of GBG no one was sniffing Fecta and I.. Delap hit on GBG and Fecta with his visits to close the game out on back to back nights it forced us to choose roles we never had a job of being convincing. Had there been no Yoda we stood a chance on my hail marry. There was no chance if we both went vanilla Civ. If you go back and read the end of day we voted out GBG I had the roles nailed down to the mafia that was revealed in a Yoda situation |
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Post by Delap on Aug 15, 2017 16:22:49 GMT -6
Yeah and that was good gameplay by Yoda to hold onto it to keep that info from the mafia and bad play by the mafia to be the only players not claiming a role. A vanilla reb would have had no reason not to come forward with their role and there weren't any more power roles. We were on a roll. Outside of GBG no one was sniffing Fecta and I.. Delap hit on GBG and Fecta with his visits to close the game out on back to back nights it forced us to choose roles we never had a job of being convincing. Had there been no Yoda we stood a chance on my hail marry. There was no chance if we both went vanilla Civ. I still don't think you know how Leia works. I was never told roles. I figured out GBG through logic. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:23:36 GMT -6
too many motherfuckers of average intelligence not understanding the complexities of how i play itt
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:23:38 GMT -6
You are the sole reason for being voted off. I saw you crying a river in shout about it. The answers you gave where terrible and literally half the game voted yoynoff seconds after you made them You are so very wrong. I was killed because maf was protecting maf and 20s went along with it. THERE IS NEVER A SINGLE GOOD REASON FOR A FUCKING DAY 1 VOTE. EVER. No evidence of anything at all whatsoever. Killing off the players who have the biggest skill gap between maf and civ is the only logical call. Those two people are gbg and jhb. Not ony that, they are highly volatile. Attacking them early gives out more info on them than anything else that can be done. If you guys want to ignore what I try to do for the town is your own god damn loss. Your "you might so something dumb and hurt the town" logic is highly flawed. I've never done anything late game to hurt the town. Hell, I've only ever actually hurt the town once (canes first game) So sure, go ahead and kill me because I have an actual reason for my day 1 votes instead of doing random shit each game based on gut feeling and shit. I repeat, there is never a good reason for a day 1 vote except to try to trigger someone. Anything else is just random votes and bandwagonning. But someone has to die and why not people who are actually good in the mafia roles rather than someone who isnt that great in them. But i get your vote this game, you were protecting gbg. I, however, dont understand 20s vote at all. But every time you don't get your way you whine and act petulant. That's why no one is paying attention to you. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:24:56 GMT -6
You are so very wrong. I was killed because maf was protecting maf and 20s went along with it. THERE IS NEVER A SINGLE GOOD REASON FOR A FUCKING DAY 1 VOTE. EVER. No evidence of anything at all whatsoever. Killing off the players who have the biggest skill gap between maf and civ is the only logical call. Those two people are gbg and jhb. Not ony that, they are highly volatile. Attacking them early gives out more info on them than anything else that can be done. If you guys want to ignore what I try to do for the town is your own god damn loss. Your "you might so something dumb and hurt the town" logic is highly flawed. I've never done anything late game to hurt the town. Hell, I've only ever actually hurt the town once (canes first game) So sure, go ahead and kill me because I have an actual reason for my day 1 votes instead of doing random shit each game based on gut feeling and shit. I repeat, there is never a good reason for a day 1 vote except to try to trigger someone. Anything else is just random votes and bandwagonning. But someone has to die and why not people who are actually good in the mafia roles rather than someone who isnt that great in them. But i get your vote this game, you were protecting gbg. I, however, dont understand 20s vote at all. But every time you don't get your way you whine and act petulant. That's why no one is paying attention to you. To be fair you had the biggest meltdown in mafia history. It was postgame though. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:25:13 GMT -6
You are so very wrong. I was killed because maf was protecting maf and 20s went along with it. THERE IS NEVER A SINGLE GOOD REASON FOR A FUCKING DAY 1 VOTE. EVER. No evidence of anything at all whatsoever. Killing off the players who have the biggest skill gap between maf and civ is the only logical call. Those two people are gbg and jhb. Not ony that, they are highly volatile. Attacking them early gives out more info on them than anything else that can be done. If you guys want to ignore what I try to do for the town is your own god damn loss. Your "you might so something dumb and hurt the town" logic is highly flawed. I've never done anything late game to hurt the town. Hell, I've only ever actually hurt the town once (canes first game) So sure, go ahead and kill me because I have an actual reason for my day 1 votes instead of doing random shit each game based on gut feeling and shit. I repeat, there is never a good reason for a day 1 vote except to try to trigger someone. Anything else is just random votes and bandwagonning. But someone has to die and why not people who are actually good in the mafia roles rather than someone who isnt that great in them. But i get your vote this game, you were protecting gbg. I, however, dont understand 20s vote at all. But every time you don't get your way you whine and act petulant. That's why no one is paying attention to you. i can be an infant and have good logic. don't ignore my rationale because you don't like how i conduct myself. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:25:40 GMT -6
But every time you don't get your way you whine and act petulant. That's why no one is paying attention to you. To be fair you had the biggest meltdown in mafia history. It was postgame though. I stand by that meltdown. That was a bullshit move. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:26:28 GMT -6
To be fair you had the biggest meltdown in mafia history. It was postgame though. I stand by that meltdown. That was a bullshit move. Standing by acting like that is even worse. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:26:39 GMT -6
But every time you don't get your way you whine and act petulant. That's why no one is paying attention to you. i can be an infant and have good logic. don't ignore my rationale because you don't like how i conduct myself. I didn't vote for you. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:28:03 GMT -6
So is your behavior Soup. You got mad at me because I was asking questions about the game and roles and decided to be petty and lose your team the game when we had a solid plan just to spite me.
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Post by TimPig on Aug 15, 2017 16:28:31 GMT -6
I'm more curious about where the notion that Yoda was more sure on fecta than bankz came from I just went back and re-read and honestly, I apparently misread that. |
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Post by TimPig on Aug 15, 2017 16:29:33 GMT -6
Yeah and that was good gameplay by Yoda to hold onto it to keep that info from the mafia and bad play by the mafia to be the only players not claiming a role. A vanilla reb would have had no reason not to come forward with their role and there weren't any more power roles. We were on a roll. Outside of GBG no one was sniffing Fecta and I.. Delap hit on GBG and Fecta with his visits to close the game out on back to back nights it forced us to choose roles we never had a job of being convincing. Had there been no Yoda we stood a chance on my hail marry. There was no chance if we both went vanilla Civ. Except before Yoda came out I said you and Fecta were both top of my list because of your late role reveals. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:30:30 GMT -6
So is your behavior Soup. You got mad at me because I was asking questions about the game and roles and decided to be petty and lose your team the game when we had a solid plan just to spite me. That's no exactly how it played out. But if you feel that excuses how you acted then I feel we've found the issue. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:31:08 GMT -6
i can be an infant and have good logic. don't ignore my rationale because you don't like how i conduct myself. I didn't vote for you. not this time. but i'm always killed because of how i act, not because of anything substantial. so, like, just get passed it dudes. i am who i am. i don't hurt the town. i'm pretty good at maf hunting. no reason to kill me because of how i will react after i die. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:31:58 GMT -6
I was upset. You played me. I still stand by what I said because I have and always will think those things about you.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:32:01 GMT -6
not this time. but i'm always killed because of how i act, not because of anything substantial. so, like, just get passed it dudes. i am who i am. i don't hurt the town. i'm pretty good at maf hunting. no reason to kill me because of how i will react after i die. Not always because of how you act but because of what you say. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:32:17 GMT -6
I was upset. You played me. I still stand by what I said because I have and always will think those things about you. Pot/kettle |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 15, 2017 16:32:25 GMT -6
Wow that was poorly played by the town at the end lol But good job getting it done Billy was so hilariously wrong in the Yoda PM I figured the exact mafia out first in the Yoda PM thread and before the actual thread We made the right call waiting to send the Yoda message since you were going for gbg anyway and we wanted to be able to tell you the results of soup's investigation in the message. To be fair, I was under the impression that we couldn't save our message, and given no information my message was better than what pete wanted to send. A mafia would've died the next day if they had listened to my message. Obviously if the message can be saved, waiting was the clear correct call. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:32:48 GMT -6
not this time. but i'm always killed because of how i act, not because of anything substantial. so, like, just get passed it dudes. i am who i am. i don't hurt the town. i'm pretty good at maf hunting. no reason to kill me because of how i will react after i die. Not always because of how you act but because of what you say. give me an example |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 15, 2017 16:33:47 GMT -6
Not always because of how you act but because of what you say. give me an example Don't remember verbatim but you said you aren't active unless you're mafia or power civ. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:34:52 GMT -6
I was upset. You played me. I still stand by what I said because I have and always will think those things about you. Pot/kettle Good deal. Feel how you want. I'm not perfect. At the end of the day I still like having you around for these games although I was mad as fuck I got played then. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 15, 2017 16:35:13 GMT -6
Don't remember verbatim but you said you aren't active unless you're mafia or power civ. lol he's going to get so mad at this post |
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Post by Odin on Aug 15, 2017 16:35:21 GMT -6
Don't remember verbatim but you said you aren't active unless you're mafia or power civ. for the love of god soup, that was the first few games until i realized it was getting me killed. i have since been absurdly active regardless of my role. i have made it perfectly clear that is no longer my approach to the game and i'm confident you are the only one who still thinks that's how i play. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 15, 2017 16:36:13 GMT -6
Don't remember verbatim but you said you aren't active unless you're mafia or power civ. yeah i agree :) |
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