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Post by TimPig on Nov 29, 2017 15:20:57 GMT -6
Americans want American policies. Russians want Russian policies. If you're American, you want to elect people who will enact American policies, and vice versa. We have to use these first couple elections and policy enactments to determine which side each individual is on, and use that to influence how we act later. Russians know who each other are, Americans do not. ok, so since we had a American Policy enforced we should feel good about majic and Druce then. It seems like it is going to be an obvious tell that when a Russian gets elected and a Russian policy goes into force. Majic and Druce could've been trying to build credibility too. I'm still trying to see how the Russians win. They need either 6 policies enacted (which would seem very tough) or 3 policies and Trump elected, which also seems tough. Heebs did mention that someone could say "All 3 of my options were Russian policies!" when enacting. Or, you could have a Russian party leader who has two Russian policies and one American policy and eliminates the American policy so the President has to pick a Russian policy, which would make him look bad. |
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Post by SPL on Nov 29, 2017 15:25:59 GMT -6
ok, so since we had a American Policy enforced we should feel good about majic and Druce then. It seems like it is going to be an obvious tell that when a Russian gets elected and a Russian policy goes into force. Majic and Druce could've been trying to build credibility too. I'm still trying to see how the Russians win. They need either 6 policies enacted (which would seem very tough) or 3 policies and Trump elected, which also seems tough. Heebs did mention that someone could say "All 3 of my options were Russian policies!" when enacting. Or, you could have a Russian party leader who has two Russian policies and one American policy and eliminates the American policy so the President has to pick a Russian policy, which would make him look bad. Yeah, but when we have a Russian policy enforced, we know that 1 of the 2 had to be Russian right? It just seems like it is going to be pretty obvious once we have a Russian policy put in place. |
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Post by TimPig on Nov 29, 2017 15:28:20 GMT -6
Majic and Druce could've been trying to build credibility too. I'm still trying to see how the Russians win. They need either 6 policies enacted (which would seem very tough) or 3 policies and Trump elected, which also seems tough. Heebs did mention that someone could say "All 3 of my options were Russian policies!" when enacting. Or, you could have a Russian party leader who has two Russian policies and one American policy and eliminates the American policy so the President has to pick a Russian policy, which would make him look bad. Yeah, but when we have a Russian policy enforced, we know that 1 of the 2 had to be Russian right? It just seems like it is going to be pretty obvious once we have a Russian policy put in place. Unless they indeed only did have three Russian policies to choose from to start with? I also don't know much about the policy selection process since I haven't taken part (thx again for not voting for me). Perhaps policies are not so clear-cut as to be obviously American or obviously Russian? |
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Post by Delap on Nov 29, 2017 15:44:53 GMT -6
don't let your guard down. that's how russia wins.
I also fail to see how repealing Net Neutrality is an American policy. Seems Russian to me.
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Post by SPL on Nov 29, 2017 15:58:11 GMT -6
Yeah, but when we have a Russian policy enforced, we know that 1 of the 2 had to be Russian right? It just seems like it is going to be pretty obvious once we have a Russian policy put in place. Unless they indeed only did have three Russian policies to choose from to start with? I also don't know much about the policy selection process since I haven't taken part (thx again for not voting for me). Perhaps policies are not so clear-cut as to be obviously American or obviously Russian? I did not vote for you because of pure ignorance of how this is played. I just found it odd that you were nominated so quickly and out of the blue. |
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Post by SPL on Nov 29, 2017 15:59:58 GMT -6
Yeah, but when we have a Russian policy enforced, we know that 1 of the 2 had to be Russian right? It just seems like it is going to be pretty obvious once we have a Russian policy put in place. Unless they indeed only did have three Russian policies to choose from to start with? I also don't know much about the policy selection process since I haven't taken part (thx again for not voting for me). Perhaps policies are not so clear-cut as to be obviously American or obviously Russian?
Also, where do these policies come from that he has to enforce? I know Druce said he had 3 options, 2 Russian and 1 american and he had to eliminate 1. He eliminated a russian one and sent Majic 1 of each. Does Heebs have some sort of randomizer? will it always be 2 and 1?
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Post by TimPig on Nov 29, 2017 16:01:23 GMT -6
don't let your guard down. that's how russia wins. I also fail to see how repealing Net Neutrality is an American policy. Seems Russian to me. Freedom and stuff. |
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Post by TimPig on Nov 29, 2017 16:02:16 GMT -6
Unless they indeed only did have three Russian policies to choose from to start with? I also don't know much about the policy selection process since I haven't taken part (thx again for not voting for me). Perhaps policies are not so clear-cut as to be obviously American or obviously Russian?
Also, where do these policies come from that he has to enforce? I know Druce said he had 3 options, 2 Russian and 1 american and he had to eliminate 1. He eliminated a russian one and sent Majic 1 of each. Does Heebs have some sort of randomizer? will it always be 2 and 1?
Heebs is providing the policies. I know he has the actual game in his possession, so I'd guess it's influenced by that game but he's adding in his own twists to make it more current? |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 29, 2017 16:07:02 GMT -6
Unless they indeed only did have three Russian policies to choose from to start with? I also don't know much about the policy selection process since I haven't taken part (thx again for not voting for me). Perhaps policies are not so clear-cut as to be obviously American or obviously Russian?
Also, where do these policies come from that he has to enforce? I know Druce said he had 3 options, 2 Russian and 1 american and he had to eliminate 1. He eliminated a russian one and sent Majic 1 of each. Does Heebs have some sort of randomizer? will it always be 2 and 1?
There are 6 American policies and 11 Russian policies. I randomized them into a list at the beginning of the game and we're working our way down that list. When we get to two policies left, I will re-randomize all 17 and start over. |
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Post by TimPig on Nov 29, 2017 16:08:34 GMT -6
Also, where do these policies come from that he has to enforce? I know Druce said he had 3 options, 2 Russian and 1 american and he had to eliminate 1. He eliminated a russian one and sent Majic 1 of each. Does Heebs have some sort of randomizer? will it always be 2 and 1?
There are 6 American policies and 11 Russian policies. I randomized them into a list at the beginning of the game and we're working our way down that list. When we get to two policies left, I will re-randomize all 17 and start over. So, to answer your question, it could be 3 and 0. And considering there are nearly twice as many Russian policies, seems like there's a decent chance that could happen. |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 29, 2017 16:09:24 GMT -6
Our fearless party leader [Account Deleted] has nominated SPL as his candidate for President. TimPigFectaDEEZMajicDruceDelapPlease PM me with your vote on whether SPL should be our next President. Scoreboard: Election tracker - 0 American Policies - 1 Russian Policies - 0 |
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Post by SPL on Nov 29, 2017 16:10:35 GMT -6
ok, this is making more sense now.
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Post by Majic on Nov 29, 2017 17:42:25 GMT -6
Getting the policy breakdown helps a lot thanks for that Heebs
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Nov 30, 2017 9:22:34 GMT -6
Well, at least we can be sure JHB will fuck everything up. Rude. |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 30, 2017 9:30:31 GMT -6
Glory to the red, white, and blue! JHB and SPL have formed a successful government with 5 yes votes and only 2 no votes.
The voting was as follows:
Delap - No
Druce - Yes
JHB - Yes
Majic - Yes
Fecta - No
SPL - Yes
Tim - Yes
As party leader, JHB will be given three random policies. He will discard one policy and pass the other two to SPL, who will enact a policy for the United States of America.
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Post by Heebs on Nov 30, 2017 9:39:20 GMT -6
Tax cuts are on their way! JHB and SPL's government has passed another American policy! The scoreboard is: American policies: 2 (only 3 more needed to win!) Russian policies: 0 Election tracker: 0 Majic will be our next party leader. Majic, please nominate a candidate for President. JHB and SPL, who were party leader and President from the last government, are term limited and may not be nominated. |
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Post by Majic on Nov 30, 2017 9:41:43 GMT -6
Glory to the red, white, and blue! JHB and SPL have formed a successful government with 5 yes votes and only 2 no votes. The voting was as follows: Delap - No Druce - Yes JHB - Yes Majic - Yes Fecta - No SPL - Yes Tim - Yes As party leader, JHB will be given three random policies. He will discard one policy and pass the other two to SPL, who will enact a policy for the United States of America. Delap anf Fecta are obviously Mafia Russians we should vote them out now not elect them |
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Post by Majic on Nov 30, 2017 9:42:26 GMT -6
hmm who to nominate I will reward my own personal Party leader and Nominate Druce |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 30, 2017 9:51:24 GMT -6
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Post by SPL on Nov 30, 2017 10:38:48 GMT -6
Glory to the red, white, and blue! JHB and SPL have formed a successful government with 5 yes votes and only 2 no votes. The voting was as follows: Delap - No Druce - Yes JHB - Yes Majic - Yes Fecta - No SPL - Yes Tim - Yes As party leader, JHB will be given three random policies. He will discard one policy and pass the other two to SPL, who will enact a policy for the United States of America. Delap anf Fecta are obviously Mafia Russians we should vote them out now not elect them Not 100% sure, Delap nominated Timpig. I would think the smart play for us is to keep voting in the proven patriots |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Nov 30, 2017 10:44:46 GMT -6
No one is a proven patriot yet.
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Post by Majic on Nov 30, 2017 10:46:18 GMT -6
No one is a proven patriot yet. umm me and Druce obviously did what was best for the good of the people Druce/Majic for every election from here on out  |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 30, 2017 10:56:40 GMT -6
The people have spoken, and Majic's presidential choice, Druce, has been elected! The voting was as follows.
Delap - No
Druce - yes
JHB - yes
Majic - yes
Fecta - no
SPL - no
Tim - yes
Majic will be given three potential policies. He will discard one and allow Druce to choose from the remaining two. Druce's choice will become the next policy enacted in our great Republic!
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Post by SPL on Nov 30, 2017 10:59:47 GMT -6
No one is a proven patriot yet. You gave me 1 Russian and 1 American. I did the right thing |
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Post by Majic on Nov 30, 2017 11:06:23 GMT -6
full disclosure:
I received 3 Russian policies.
Druce is will be forced to pick one.
thought I would let the good common folk know before there were any inquisitions
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Post by Druce on Nov 30, 2017 11:25:09 GMT -6
All I know is I was given 2 russian policies. Tim will inevitably say the first vote was Majic and I buying credibility, but we aren't close to the finish so to do a total flip and expose ourselves as russian right now would make no sense.
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Post by TimPig on Nov 30, 2017 11:30:37 GMT -6
All I know is I was given 2 russian policies. Tim will inevitably say the first vote was Majic and I buying credibility, but we aren't close to the finish so to do a total flip and expose ourselves as russian right now would make no sense. TBH I'm more curious why SPL voted no in this election after saying we should vote yes on any "proven" patriots. I don't believe anyone is a proven patriot at this point, and this policy session will muddy the waters more, but if SPL did believe anyone was a proven patriot at this point, why would Druce not be one of them? |
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Post by Druce on Nov 30, 2017 11:33:11 GMT -6
i agree tim, that doesn't make sense
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Post by Heebs on Nov 30, 2017 11:38:00 GMT -6
In a sobering turn of events, President Druce issues an executive order declaring an end to the Magnitsky Act, much to the delight of the Kremlin. Scoreboard: American policies: 2 Russian policies: 1 Election tracker: 0 FectaDEEZ is the next party leader. He will nominate a candiate other than Majic or Druce, who are term limited. Something that hasn't happened yet, but is an aspect of the game, is pre-election consensus building. This is especially important once you have 2 failed governments in a row, but can be used at any time. It's an informal process by which the party leader solicits input on candidates to try to put up a candidate for President that will be successfully elected. As a reminder, as more Russian policies are enacted Presidential powers will be unlocked. The next Russian policy enacted will allow the then-acting party leader to investigate a player's passport to determine whether they are American or Russian. The person they investigate will be public knowledge, but the results of the investigation will be known only to that party leader. That party leader may disclose the nationality of the investigated player, but may not use the PM from me as proof of the nationality they allege. |
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Post by TimPig on Nov 30, 2017 11:45:07 GMT -6
It's the first game and I'm probably grasping at straws here, but the three players I think whose feet we need to hold to the fire are SPL, Druce, and Majic.
SPL because of what I said in my last post.
Druce and Majic because they were in command when a Russian policy was enacted. Possible they had three Russian choices, but we should work to try and confirm that.
IMO we should nominate SPL as President since Druce and Majic can't be. If we end up with an American policy, we're a step closer to winning but still don't have a ton confirmed. If it's Russian, we have a passport to use.
Thoughts?
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