Post by eric on Jun 23, 2016 11:01:05 GMT -6
As of trade 1610, there have been 1612 numbered trades. Several were cancelled, vetoed, not accepted, deleted, or otherwise voided. A total of 23 trades have involved five or more first round picks.
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Trade 62
The first in 4.0 saw six firsts (four Mavs zero Pelicans) go to the Pelicans for Larry Kenon, who went on to win a Playoffs MVP and two rings with Souper Troopers 's first Mavericks title core, playing a total of 12 years for the Mavericks. The picks turned into...
28 forfeit
16 Alexis Gardner
23 Cohn Irish
29 Alan Camby
28 Dominique Jones
29 Robert Swift
The gold standard of mega pick trades. One of two players to win multiple titles with the team that traded for him, and one of only six to win a title at all. The third worst average draft slot of picks sent out. The most years played by far on the team receiving the player. Just amazing.
Trade 191
Five (one Timberwolves two Bucks) to the Bucks for Grant Hill. He made a couple All-NBA 1sts and took the Timberwolves to a few #1 seeds, total of 6 years in Minnesota. As it happened the Bucks moved their own picks, but here's who the picks turned into anyway:
21 Elliot Williams
15 Pavel Podkolzin
13 Elden Campbell
27 Steve Henson
23 Terry Mills
Trade 209
Five (one Timberwolves zero Magic) to the Magic for Juwan Howard, who was promptly moved on to the Thunder for Lonnie Shelton (aka the poor man's Josh Smith). Picks became:
27 Anderson Varejao
13 Delonte West
12 Toni Kukoc
10 Lee Shaffer
21 Rudy LaRusso
Trade 210
Five (zero Bucks zero Magic) to the Magic for Otis Birdsong and Kevin Willis. Willis would go on to win a title with the Celtics. The Magic would go on to win 72 games. The Bucks would go on to relegate both players to the bench and move them within 2 years. Picks became:
21 Elliot Williams
25 Patrick Patterson
25 Marcus Douthit
13 Elden Campbell
23 Terry Mills
Note that three of these picks were acquired in the Grant Hill trade.
Trade 389
Five (zero Suns zero Celtics) to the Celtics for Cliff Robinson, who would go on to two DPOY with the Suns over 4 years and two rings with not the Suns. Picks became:
22 Marlow McLain
27 Russell Cross
16 Chris Welp
14 Muggsy Bogues
13 Arron Afflalo
Trade 452
Five (one Bucks zero Kings) to the Kings for Charles Barkley, who won a title with the Kings and the 76ers but none with the Bucks. Played 2 years before being traded to the Clippers for Jerry West. Picks became:
11 Rodney McCray
23 Ennis Whatley
26 Jamie Dixon
09 Kerry Kittles
12 Willie Cauley-Stein
This trade also included Pee Wee Kirkland in the package for Barkley.
Trade 496
Six (four Rockets zero Nets) to the Nets for Khalid Reeves, who would go on to two titles with the Rockets in 3 years and one with the Mavericks for good measure. Picks became:
29 Jermareo Davidson
28 Julian Wright
23 Josh McRoberts
29 Vitaly Potapenko
28 Jake Layman
29 Primoz Brezec
The only five pick trade to not generate a single top 20 pick. The worst average draft slot at 28. The second best performance by the player traded with the team he was traded to. Ouch.
Trade 576
Five (one Nets zero Kings) to the Kings for 1.14, selected Acie Law IV, who after 2 years in Brooklyn would go on to be part of the package used to bring Khalid Reeves back to Brooklyn (to not much effect). The first four of these picks were from the same draft that was in progress at the time (including two from the above trade), and it is the only time five firsts were traded for a draft pick.
19 Corey Brewer
27 Marco Belinelli
28 Julian Wright
29 Jermareo Davidson
26 Doug Roth
Trade 611
Seven (two Sixers zero Warriors) to the Warriors for Michael Jeffrey Jordan, who was only back in Philly for 1 year before being traded to the Hawks for Charles Barkley and a championship. Picks became:
26 Jake Tsakalidis
27 Etan Thomas
15 Michael Redd
11 Mike Miller
05 Sean Elliot
28 BJ Armstrong
11 Otto Krieghauser
Trade 821
Five (two Cavs zero Nuggets) to the Nuggets for Nick Fazekas, who would do nothing in 1 year in Cleveland and get traded for three picks to the Clippers, where his fourth most valuable player in the playoffs performance would become wildly overrated (and lead the Cavs to reacquire him to do nothing for 2 more years). Two of the picks were already set, and they all would become:
09 Boris Nachamkin
13 Dick Gross
05 Tyreke Evans
09 Rolando Blackman
11 Paul Millsap
By far the best return of any trade in terms of average draft slot. Nearly the worst performance for the team that traded for him. It's only turning him into picks that keeps this trade from being the WOAT.
Trade 871
Five (three Raptors zero Sonics) to the Sonics for Kristaps Porzingis, who was so amazing he actually won a championship on a Central division team. Played 4 years in Toronto before being traded for the Best point guard in Central history. Picks became:
12 Sergii Gladyr
16 Eddie Johnson
17 Ed O'Bannon
15 JJ Redick
15 Ron Sobieszczyk
Trade 902
Five (three Hornets zero Celtics) to the Celtics for Clyde Drexler, and it was just hard to watch the 8 years after that. Picks became:
15 Alton Lister
10 Kurt Thomas
24 Eric Snow
27 Hassan Adams
26 Jesse Arnelle
Trade 919
Five (three Rockets zero Lakers) to the Lakers for Kaminsky. Single handedly destroyed dilworth in his 3 years on the team, who after seven straight years of top 3 seeds hasn't been in the top four since. Picks became:
20 Travis Best
15 Theo Ratliff
14 Mouhamed Sene
08 George Yardley
12 Mel Hutchins
Trade 1066
Seven (four Sonics zero Bucks) to the Bucks for DeJuan Blair, who was first team All-NBA four years on the trot but couldn't overcome the culture of KwYawnza during his 6 years in Seattle. Picks became:
10 Johnny McCarthy
15 Ron Sobieszczyk
28 Dick Boushka
25 Zeke Sinicola
24 Luc Longley
26 Buck Johnson
27 Chris Singleton
This trade also included Herb Williams and Tyus Edney to the Bucks, who were dealt on net for 3500 dump bucks.
Trade 1093
The only three team trade in this article. The Heat sent three (one own) to the Sixers and two (one own one theirs) to the Nuggets that saw them receive Mike Conley, a former playoffs MVP who would get Citizen Cane a first team All-NBA in his 6 years with the HEAT but no joy in the playoffs except for when he miraculously recovered from a spiral fracture to the leg and spine in time to beat my Knicks, not that I'm bitter that he blatantly cheated. Picks became:
05 Paul Arizin
23 Anthony Avent
17 Johnny Newman
16 Kenneth Faried
21 George Hill
Trade 1094
Five (one Clippers zero 76ers) for Bob Pettit, who would win the Quadruple Platinum Elite Playoffs MVP for being the only man to best the Shareef Thunder. Gave 4 adequate years to the Clippers in addition to that 1. Picks became:
21 Jim Baechtold
28 Larry Krystkowiak
10 Nikola Mirotic
29 Marvin Okulaja
09 Brook Lopez
Trade 1117
Five (three Celtics zero Nuggets) to the Nuggets for Jerry Stackhouse. Finished 1 year with the Celtics and left in free agency, setting the franchise back ten years. Picks became:
08 Stacey Augmon
11 Mark Price
13 Chris Washburn
12 Nikola Vucevic
11 Kosta Koufos
Trails only the Cavs' Fazekas disaster for average draft slot given away, got absolutely nothing in return for him, clearly the worst mega pick trade of all time, but did set the stage for an eventual dumptank resurrection.
Trade 1189
Six (two 76ers zero Bulls) to the Bulls for Kevin Durant. Finished 1 year with the 76ers and was traded for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, which was a Shareef trade that worked out pretty well for Face-in . Picks became:
09 Dell Curry
21 Chase Traylor
20 JaJuan Johnson
08 Jonas Valanciunas
10 Nikola Mirotic
29 Marvin Okulaja
Trade 1227
Five (four Cavs zero Lakers) to the Lakers for Damon Stoudamire and Greg Oden. Oden had 2 creaky but effective years in the Land and was traded for the slightly less creaky Jahlil Okafor, Mighty Mouse gave him 5 strong years before being traded back to the Lakers for two firsts. Picks became:
16 Kenneth Faried
22 Jason Thompson
17 Jordan Clarkson
26 Jeff Foster
20 Mike O'Koren
Trade 1293
Five (four Spurs zero Grizzlies) to the Grizzlies for Bryant Reeves. The sim version of IRL Kevin Love, 5 years and 1 #ohwow. Christmas came one day early for victorj24 , who smartly dumped him immediately after the title. Picks became:
20 PJ Hairston
21 William Avery
19 Jonah Campbell
15 Devin Lonc
13 Cody Zeller
Trade 1333
Five (three Lakers one Bucks) to the Bucks for Rudy Gay, who was immediately traded for Gregor Clegane who would arguably contribute to the Laker championship of 3029. The Lakers also sent Jabari Parker in the deal. Trofie would once again trade his own pick, and all picks became:
15 James Ray
29 Corie Blount
15 Michael Carter-Williams
13 Cody Zeller
06 Brian Newell
Trade 1501
Seven (two 76ers two Warriors) to the Warriors for Dario Saric, who already has one playoff MVP for the 76ers. One of the very few trades where the team getting picks got their own picks, and the only one where they kept them, which is how they ended up with a #1 pick. Picks became:
29 Matt Geiger
22 Rob Williams
27 Paul Pressey
01 Dominique Wilkins
29 Zack Pollard
09 Jim Krebe
TBD Sixers 3035
Trade 1524
Five (two Bucks zero Warriors) to the Warriors for Dennis Schröder. The trade that inspired this article, and while it's still TBD German Rondo took a big step back in year three. This is the sixth mega pick trade Trofie has been involved in, twice as many as next highest Face-in 's three, which is pretty astonishing. I would also be astonished if D-Schr finishes the year with the Bucks, given the previous history of mega pick players in Milwaukee.
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Grand total:
22 trades completed (or close enough).
118 picks received.
Average draft slot: 18
Average years on team: 3.7
Finals MVPs won by players: 5 (Kenon, Reeves, Reeves, Pettit, Saric)
Finals MVPs won by picks: 0* (Tyus Edney was included on the picks side of one trade, but was already in the league at the time)
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Trade 62
The first in 4.0 saw six firsts (four Mavs zero Pelicans) go to the Pelicans for Larry Kenon, who went on to win a Playoffs MVP and two rings with Souper Troopers 's first Mavericks title core, playing a total of 12 years for the Mavericks. The picks turned into...
28 forfeit
16 Alexis Gardner
23 Cohn Irish
29 Alan Camby
28 Dominique Jones
29 Robert Swift
The gold standard of mega pick trades. One of two players to win multiple titles with the team that traded for him, and one of only six to win a title at all. The third worst average draft slot of picks sent out. The most years played by far on the team receiving the player. Just amazing.
Trade 191
Five (one Timberwolves two Bucks) to the Bucks for Grant Hill. He made a couple All-NBA 1sts and took the Timberwolves to a few #1 seeds, total of 6 years in Minnesota. As it happened the Bucks moved their own picks, but here's who the picks turned into anyway:
21 Elliot Williams
15 Pavel Podkolzin
13 Elden Campbell
27 Steve Henson
23 Terry Mills
Trade 209
Five (one Timberwolves zero Magic) to the Magic for Juwan Howard, who was promptly moved on to the Thunder for Lonnie Shelton (aka the poor man's Josh Smith). Picks became:
27 Anderson Varejao
13 Delonte West
12 Toni Kukoc
10 Lee Shaffer
21 Rudy LaRusso
Trade 210
Five (zero Bucks zero Magic) to the Magic for Otis Birdsong and Kevin Willis. Willis would go on to win a title with the Celtics. The Magic would go on to win 72 games. The Bucks would go on to relegate both players to the bench and move them within 2 years. Picks became:
21 Elliot Williams
25 Patrick Patterson
25 Marcus Douthit
13 Elden Campbell
23 Terry Mills
Note that three of these picks were acquired in the Grant Hill trade.
Trade 389
Five (zero Suns zero Celtics) to the Celtics for Cliff Robinson, who would go on to two DPOY with the Suns over 4 years and two rings with not the Suns. Picks became:
22 Marlow McLain
27 Russell Cross
16 Chris Welp
14 Muggsy Bogues
13 Arron Afflalo
Trade 452
Five (one Bucks zero Kings) to the Kings for Charles Barkley, who won a title with the Kings and the 76ers but none with the Bucks. Played 2 years before being traded to the Clippers for Jerry West. Picks became:
11 Rodney McCray
23 Ennis Whatley
26 Jamie Dixon
09 Kerry Kittles
12 Willie Cauley-Stein
This trade also included Pee Wee Kirkland in the package for Barkley.
Trade 496
Six (four Rockets zero Nets) to the Nets for Khalid Reeves, who would go on to two titles with the Rockets in 3 years and one with the Mavericks for good measure. Picks became:
29 Jermareo Davidson
28 Julian Wright
23 Josh McRoberts
29 Vitaly Potapenko
28 Jake Layman
29 Primoz Brezec
The only five pick trade to not generate a single top 20 pick. The worst average draft slot at 28. The second best performance by the player traded with the team he was traded to. Ouch.
Trade 576
Five (one Nets zero Kings) to the Kings for 1.14, selected Acie Law IV, who after 2 years in Brooklyn would go on to be part of the package used to bring Khalid Reeves back to Brooklyn (to not much effect). The first four of these picks were from the same draft that was in progress at the time (including two from the above trade), and it is the only time five firsts were traded for a draft pick.
19 Corey Brewer
27 Marco Belinelli
28 Julian Wright
29 Jermareo Davidson
26 Doug Roth
Trade 611
Seven (two Sixers zero Warriors) to the Warriors for Michael Jeffrey Jordan, who was only back in Philly for 1 year before being traded to the Hawks for Charles Barkley and a championship. Picks became:
26 Jake Tsakalidis
27 Etan Thomas
15 Michael Redd
11 Mike Miller
05 Sean Elliot
28 BJ Armstrong
11 Otto Krieghauser
Trade 821
Five (two Cavs zero Nuggets) to the Nuggets for Nick Fazekas, who would do nothing in 1 year in Cleveland and get traded for three picks to the Clippers, where his fourth most valuable player in the playoffs performance would become wildly overrated (and lead the Cavs to reacquire him to do nothing for 2 more years). Two of the picks were already set, and they all would become:
09 Boris Nachamkin
13 Dick Gross
05 Tyreke Evans
09 Rolando Blackman
11 Paul Millsap
By far the best return of any trade in terms of average draft slot. Nearly the worst performance for the team that traded for him. It's only turning him into picks that keeps this trade from being the WOAT.
Trade 871
Five (three Raptors zero Sonics) to the Sonics for Kristaps Porzingis, who was so amazing he actually won a championship on a Central division team. Played 4 years in Toronto before being traded for the Best point guard in Central history. Picks became:
12 Sergii Gladyr
16 Eddie Johnson
17 Ed O'Bannon
15 JJ Redick
15 Ron Sobieszczyk
Trade 902
Five (three Hornets zero Celtics) to the Celtics for Clyde Drexler, and it was just hard to watch the 8 years after that. Picks became:
15 Alton Lister
10 Kurt Thomas
24 Eric Snow
27 Hassan Adams
26 Jesse Arnelle
Trade 919
Five (three Rockets zero Lakers) to the Lakers for Kaminsky. Single handedly destroyed dilworth in his 3 years on the team, who after seven straight years of top 3 seeds hasn't been in the top four since. Picks became:
20 Travis Best
15 Theo Ratliff
14 Mouhamed Sene
08 George Yardley
12 Mel Hutchins
Trade 1066
Seven (four Sonics zero Bucks) to the Bucks for DeJuan Blair, who was first team All-NBA four years on the trot but couldn't overcome the culture of KwYawnza during his 6 years in Seattle. Picks became:
10 Johnny McCarthy
15 Ron Sobieszczyk
28 Dick Boushka
25 Zeke Sinicola
24 Luc Longley
26 Buck Johnson
27 Chris Singleton
This trade also included Herb Williams and Tyus Edney to the Bucks, who were dealt on net for 3500 dump bucks.
Trade 1093
The only three team trade in this article. The Heat sent three (one own) to the Sixers and two (one own one theirs) to the Nuggets that saw them receive Mike Conley, a former playoffs MVP who would get Citizen Cane a first team All-NBA in his 6 years with the HEAT but no joy in the playoffs except for when he miraculously recovered from a spiral fracture to the leg and spine in time to beat my Knicks, not that I'm bitter that he blatantly cheated. Picks became:
05 Paul Arizin
23 Anthony Avent
17 Johnny Newman
16 Kenneth Faried
21 George Hill
Trade 1094
Five (one Clippers zero 76ers) for Bob Pettit, who would win the Quadruple Platinum Elite Playoffs MVP for being the only man to best the Shareef Thunder. Gave 4 adequate years to the Clippers in addition to that 1. Picks became:
21 Jim Baechtold
28 Larry Krystkowiak
10 Nikola Mirotic
29 Marvin Okulaja
09 Brook Lopez
Trade 1117
Five (three Celtics zero Nuggets) to the Nuggets for Jerry Stackhouse. Finished 1 year with the Celtics and left in free agency, setting the franchise back ten years. Picks became:
08 Stacey Augmon
11 Mark Price
13 Chris Washburn
12 Nikola Vucevic
11 Kosta Koufos
Trails only the Cavs' Fazekas disaster for average draft slot given away, got absolutely nothing in return for him, clearly the worst mega pick trade of all time, but did set the stage for an eventual dumptank resurrection.
Trade 1189
Six (two 76ers zero Bulls) to the Bulls for Kevin Durant. Finished 1 year with the 76ers and was traded for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, which was a Shareef trade that worked out pretty well for Face-in . Picks became:
09 Dell Curry
21 Chase Traylor
20 JaJuan Johnson
08 Jonas Valanciunas
10 Nikola Mirotic
29 Marvin Okulaja
Trade 1227
Five (four Cavs zero Lakers) to the Lakers for Damon Stoudamire and Greg Oden. Oden had 2 creaky but effective years in the Land and was traded for the slightly less creaky Jahlil Okafor, Mighty Mouse gave him 5 strong years before being traded back to the Lakers for two firsts. Picks became:
16 Kenneth Faried
22 Jason Thompson
17 Jordan Clarkson
26 Jeff Foster
20 Mike O'Koren
Trade 1293
Five (four Spurs zero Grizzlies) to the Grizzlies for Bryant Reeves. The sim version of IRL Kevin Love, 5 years and 1 #ohwow. Christmas came one day early for victorj24 , who smartly dumped him immediately after the title. Picks became:
20 PJ Hairston
21 William Avery
19 Jonah Campbell
15 Devin Lonc
13 Cody Zeller
Trade 1333
Five (three Lakers one Bucks) to the Bucks for Rudy Gay, who was immediately traded for Gregor Clegane who would arguably contribute to the Laker championship of 3029. The Lakers also sent Jabari Parker in the deal. Trofie would once again trade his own pick, and all picks became:
15 James Ray
29 Corie Blount
15 Michael Carter-Williams
13 Cody Zeller
06 Brian Newell
Trade 1501
Seven (two 76ers two Warriors) to the Warriors for Dario Saric, who already has one playoff MVP for the 76ers. One of the very few trades where the team getting picks got their own picks, and the only one where they kept them, which is how they ended up with a #1 pick. Picks became:
29 Matt Geiger
22 Rob Williams
27 Paul Pressey
01 Dominique Wilkins
29 Zack Pollard
09 Jim Krebe
TBD Sixers 3035
Trade 1524
Five (two Bucks zero Warriors) to the Warriors for Dennis Schröder. The trade that inspired this article, and while it's still TBD German Rondo took a big step back in year three. This is the sixth mega pick trade Trofie has been involved in, twice as many as next highest Face-in 's three, which is pretty astonishing. I would also be astonished if D-Schr finishes the year with the Bucks, given the previous history of mega pick players in Milwaukee.
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Grand total:
22 trades completed (or close enough).
118 picks received.
Average draft slot: 18
Average years on team: 3.7
Finals MVPs won by players: 5 (Kenon, Reeves, Reeves, Pettit, Saric)
Finals MVPs won by picks: 0* (Tyus Edney was included on the picks side of one trade, but was already in the league at the time)
