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Post by SPL on Jun 7, 2017 14:44:25 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him.
That is a great point, I have faith in your words. I will switch my vote to Fecta as well
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 14:45:03 GMT -6
I guess irrevocable doesn't mean what it used to. When I said that there was no way to foresee Odin being eliminated before night. That doesn't change the meaning of the word. |
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:47:04 GMT -6
When I said that there was no way to foresee Odin being eliminated before night. That doesn't change the meaning of the word. irrevocable only means can't be taken back by the person who created it, but the governing authority can still have authority to dissolve something even if you call it irrevocable. in this case ankly does, ankly did, and so herb can (and under the rules is obligated) to vote for someone else |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jun 7, 2017 14:48:58 GMT -6
This thread is going to be impossible to trace back through
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:52:52 GMT -6
I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him.
That is a great point, I have faith in your words. I will switch my vote to Fecta as well
It isn't really a matter of faith in my words - I don't know for sure if that is what happened, I just think it's possible. And that's more than I have to suspect TimPig. And I don't think either would be as big of a loss to the town as more experienced players. |
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Post by Majic on Jun 7, 2017 14:53:53 GMT -6
This thread is going to be impossible to trace back through like |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 7, 2017 14:54:15 GMT -6
This makes Herb look pretty questionable at this point since he was railing so hard against odin That was always the risk. I figured if I was wrong I'd be killed day 2. I stand by my logic though. I genuinely don't understand how Odin goes from "we killed Heebs first because we wanted to get rid of the most competent people early" to being a civilian and voting for me day 1. My theory is out of the water and I am voting for TimPig unless someone, through their actions or words, convinces me otherwise. We don't know who formed that strategy. It could have been JHB or Eric's idea to eliminate the "most competent" people first. |
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Post by SPL on Jun 7, 2017 14:54:38 GMT -6
That doesn't change the meaning of the word. irrevocable only means can't be taken back by the person who created it, but the governing authority can still have authority to dissolve something even if you call it irrevocable. in this case ankly does, ankly did, and so herb can (and under the rules is obligated) to vote for someone else Eric is white knighting Heebs again? |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jun 7, 2017 14:54:39 GMT -6
I mean that is some top tier day 1 sleuthing/distraction from 20s. also interesting that timpig did a drive by vote of fecta then bailed
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 7, 2017 14:56:34 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him. Just because he isn't a vanilla civ doesn't mean that he is mafia. He could have only received a bodyguard or police pm. |
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:58:07 GMT -6
4 Fecta - JHB, 20s, spl, TimPig 3 TimPig - Eric, Soup, herb simon 2 Herb Simon - Fecta, majic 1 Pete - Canes 1 Billy King - gbg 1 20s - Taco Yet to vote: delap, Pete, Yawn, Billy King ANK1990 is it permissible to talk about mafia team deliberations from prior games irrevocable only means can't be taken back by the person who created it, but the governing authority can still have authority to dissolve something even if you call it irrevocable. in this case ankly does, ankly did, and so herb can (and under the rules is obligated) to vote for someone else Eric is white knighting Heebs again? the only person i'm white knighting is the English language |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jun 7, 2017 14:59:36 GMT -6
Changing my vote to Timpig
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 15:00:22 GMT -6
I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him. Just because he isn't a vanilla civ doesn't mean that he is mafia. He could have only received a bodyguard or police pm. This is also a very good point. I honestly forgot about those roles. It also makes voting for fecta more of a risk bc if he is one of those roles we don't want to kill him off. Changing my vote back to TimPig for now. |
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 15:00:29 GMT -6
4 Fecta - JHB, 20s, spl, TimPig 3 TimPig - Eric, Soup, herb simon 2 Herb Simon - Fecta, majic 1 Pete - Canes 1 Billy King - gbg 1 20s - Taco Yet to vote: delap, Pete, Yawn, Billy King ANK1990 is it permissible to talk about mafia team deliberations from prior games Eric is white knighting Heebs again? the only person i'm white knighting is the English language Yes you can talk about previous mafia deliberations. Something like taking a screenshot of previous mafia deliberations though would not be permitted. |
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Post by TimPig on Jun 7, 2017 15:04:38 GMT -6
I mean that is some top tier day 1 sleuthing/distraction from 20s. also interesting that timpig did a drive by vote of fecta then bailed What does this mean? |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jun 7, 2017 15:05:39 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 15:05:50 GMT -6
I mean that is some top tier day 1 sleuthing/distraction from 20s. also interesting that timpig did a drive by vote of fecta then bailed What does this mean? You voted then left the thread |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jun 7, 2017 15:07:13 GMT -6
If you don't want to think, get out of the sink
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jun 7, 2017 15:07:42 GMT -6
I mean that is some top tier day 1 sleuthing/distraction from 20s. also interesting that timpig did a drive by vote of fecta then bailed I might be changing my vote to 20s, this is a sold point. But then again, maybe that is exactly what 20s wants us to do?? |
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Post by TimPig on Jun 7, 2017 15:07:56 GMT -6
You voted then left the thread Been here the whole time trying to understand the logic. Even tried to go back and view game one since apparently that's greatly influencing how everyone is voting, but that was overkill. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 15:08:00 GMT -6
fecta
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 15:13:21 GMT -6
gbgalla24 asked whose idea it was to go after competent people from the mafia in game one, jhb can confirm or deny if he wants on night one i said Yawn because he wasn't playing much (how things change) the other two ended up on herb simon in part because he was expected to be among the best players
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 15:13:53 GMT -6
i say the other two, jhb was the first one to say it
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jun 7, 2017 15:17:40 GMT -6
I mean that is some top tier day 1 sleuthing/distraction from 20s. also interesting that timpig did a drive by vote of fecta then bailed I might be changing my vote to 20s, this is a sold point. But then again, maybe that is exactly what 20s wants us to do?? I don't see a reason to knock 20s off just yet. He's posting his logic in a pretty smart manner. If it is a distraction, he will take out a few people early on before people figure him out and kill him off. If he's a civ, he will be a great asset the rest of the way. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 15:18:59 GMT -6
ANK1990 one you reveal a player to the cop, is the cop allowed to contact that person via pm? Example Had heebs not been offed Heebs was cop Heebs investigates 20s 20s revealed civilian Heebs can now communicate to 20s that he knows he's civilian and the can strategize.
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 15:21:12 GMT -6
ANK1990 one you reveal a player to the cop, is the cop allowed to contact that person via pm? Example Had heebs not been offed Heebs was cop Heebs investigates 20s 20s revealed civilian Heebs can now communicate to 20s that he knows he's civilian and the can strategize. Nope. No communication. The cop just gets to know that person's role. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jun 7, 2017 15:24:10 GMT -6
so ANK1990 the cop is the only one who knows the identity of the person investigated? it doesn't get announced to everyone? |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 15:26:09 GMT -6
Fuck it I'm going hard in the paint. It's dumb to put a target on yourself but here we go.
I vote for 20s
It was so important for him to come out last game and let us know that he wasn't mafia. He beat it into our heads he wasn't and that his word was as strong as oak. Even called out others and challenged them to do the same. This time around, crickets...
And of course we wants us to vote an inactive person first votes. It gets out a civilian and it also keeps his hands from being bloodied.
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 15:26:21 GMT -6
so ANK1990 the cop is the only one who knows the identity of the person investigated? it doesn't get announced to everyone? Just the cop knows. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jun 7, 2017 15:38:19 GMT -6
can we get a current vote update?
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