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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:27:39 GMT -6
Just fwiw I will not be letting this end up in a tie. Do what that as you will. IMO, if you force a vote on a specific player, then you should be liable and ready to be sacrificed if the person you kill ends up as a civilian. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 20, 2017 14:28:01 GMT -6
Just fwiw I will not be letting this end up in a tie. Do what that as you will. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:28:41 GMT -6
So, if you're a civ and you prevent it from being random, you're REALLY doing the townspeople a disservice.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:30:38 GMT -6
Just fwiw I will not be letting this end up in a tie. Do what that as you will. IMO, if you force a vote on a specific player, then you should be liable and ready to be sacrificed if the person you kill ends up as a civilian. I'm ok with that. And if I hit a mafia I should be worshipped. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:31:06 GMT -6
So, if you're a civ and you prevent it from being random, you're REALLY doing the townspeople a disservice. I've given my reasons for not doing random |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:31:45 GMT -6
Also if I get voted out day one just look to the guys that voted me.
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Post by Heebs on Jun 20, 2017 14:32:28 GMT -6
So, if you're a civ and you prevent it from being random, you're REALLY doing the townspeople a disservice. I disagree. If he is a civ he is making it random. The whole reason I wanted the double-blind random is because I didn't want us to follow a mafia member's "random" vote. If Soup is truly a civilian, he has no idea who is mafia. All he knows is he is a civilian. By voting for someone, it improves the town's odds because it removes the known civilian (soup) from the pool. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 20, 2017 14:32:29 GMT -6
Also if I get voted out day one just look to the guys that voted me. Are you fucking kidding lol. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:33:12 GMT -6
I don't know what to think of this turn. We were all working so well together.  |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:33:28 GMT -6
Also if I get voted out day one just look to the guys that voted me. Are you fucking kidding lol. Well you were gung ho about random and you just flipped. Seems sketchy when it's revealed I'm civ |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 20, 2017 14:33:32 GMT -6
I think it's logical that I don't like my chances if soup is the guy deciding who dies when everyone else wants to vote random. I vote soup to preserve my own life fuck you soup for not going for random kill.
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jun 20, 2017 14:33:49 GMT -6
I dont think Soup is mafia this game. I have no facts to base this on.
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Post by SPL on Jun 20, 2017 14:34:08 GMT -6
I personally don't understand why we on day 1 want to vote a civ out without any information. We should let the cop do his thing and not help the mafia in knocking ourselves off. This will prolong the time we have to figure out the mafia members and create a larger pool for them in trying to guess who is the cop.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 20, 2017 14:34:14 GMT -6
We don't know if soup is or isn't a civ though
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 20, 2017 14:34:33 GMT -6
If soup gets on board for random, I'll vote random. If soup thinks he should get to decide who dies, I'm voting soup because fuck that.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 20, 2017 14:35:18 GMT -6
I dont think Soup is mafia this game. I have no facts to base this on. I tend to agree. Playing the odds. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:35:33 GMT -6
If soup gets on board for random, I'll vote random. If soup thinks he should get to decide who dies, I'm voting soup because fuck that. People trying to force other people to play a certain way. Pass on that. I've given my reasons. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:36:15 GMT -6
So, if you're a civ and you prevent it from being random, you're REALLY doing the townspeople a disservice. I disagree. If he is a civ he is making it random. The whole reason I wanted the double-blind random is because I didn't want us to follow a mafia member's "random" vote. If Soup is truly a civilian, he has no idea who is mafia. All he knows is he is a civilian. By voting for someone, it improves the town's odds because it removes the known civilian (soup) from the pool. I'm saying that he is likely going to be voted out to be executed if the person he "randomly" selects to force person to be killed is a civ. So, if he has one civ voted off, then gets voted off as a second civ, then we will be down 4 civs before we hit on a mafia member. |
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Post by Heebs on Jun 20, 2017 14:36:55 GMT -6
We don't know if soup is or isn't a civ though Again, this is the whole reason eric was perfect for this day 1 role. My point was just that soup, if he truly is a civilian, would be justified in swinging the vote in OT because it improves our probability of getting M1. The risk is that if he gets a civilian, the mob will be out for him. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 20, 2017 14:36:58 GMT -6
I'd give it about a 75% chance (9 out of 12) that all of you guys are Civs IMO IYAM FWIW
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:37:31 GMT -6
I personally don't understand why we on day 1 want to vote a civ out without any information. We should let the cop do his thing and not help the mafia in knocking ourselves off. This will prolong the time we have to figure out the mafia members and create a larger pool for them in trying to guess who is the cop. Eric has run the numbers. A civ kill at random is better than a no kill on day one. |
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Post by Heebs on Jun 20, 2017 14:37:33 GMT -6
I disagree. If he is a civ he is making it random. The whole reason I wanted the double-blind random is because I didn't want us to follow a mafia member's "random" vote. If Soup is truly a civilian, he has no idea who is mafia. All he knows is he is a civilian. By voting for someone, it improves the town's odds because it removes the known civilian (soup) from the pool. I'm saying that he is likely going to be voted out to be executed if the person he "randomly" selects to force person to be killed is a civ. So, if he has one civ voted off, then gets voted off as a second civ, then we will be down 4 civs before we hit on a mafia member. Oh, I see. I agree with that. |
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Post by TimPig on Jun 20, 2017 14:38:45 GMT -6
I dont think Soup is mafia this game. I have no facts to base this on. I tend to agree. Playing the odds. I've been mafia two of three games I've played so there's basically 0% chance that I'm mafia then right? |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:39:08 GMT -6
I think it's logical that I don't like my chances if soup is the guy deciding who dies when everyone else wants to vote random. I vote soup to preserve my own life fuck you soup for not going for random kill. The thing is, if you are a civ you shouldn't be worried about your chances, only the towns. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:39:17 GMT -6
I tend to agree. Playing the odds. I've been mafia two of three games I've played so there's basically 0% chance that I'm mafia then right? Some would say you have a negative percent chance. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 20, 2017 14:39:32 GMT -6
I disagree. If he is a civ he is making it random. The whole reason I wanted the double-blind random is because I didn't want us to follow a mafia member's "random" vote. If Soup is truly a civilian, he has no idea who is mafia. All he knows is he is a civilian. By voting for someone, it improves the town's odds because it removes the known civilian (soup) from the pool. I'm saying that he is likely going to be voted out to be executed if the person he "randomly" selects to force person to be killed is a civ. So, if he has one civ voted off, then gets voted off as a second civ, then we will be down 4 civs before we hit on a mafia member. This is why it'd be dumb to vote me just because I voted for soup today if he turns out to be a civ. This is why random vote is best. You're least likely to get caught up in a mafia push to Lynch a civ day 1. You got a highest chance of getting maf by random day one. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 20, 2017 14:39:46 GMT -6
I think it's logical that I don't like my chances if soup is the guy deciding who dies when everyone else wants to vote random. I vote soup to preserve my own life fuck you soup for not going for random kill. The thing is, if you are a civ you shouldn't be worried about your chances, only the towns. Boom. Outed. |
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Post by TimPig on Jun 20, 2017 14:40:24 GMT -6
I've been mafia two of three games I've played so there's basically 0% chance that I'm mafia then right? Some would say you have a negative percent chance. If I had to put my chances into a percentage, I would say I have none percent chance. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:42:21 GMT -6
Can't we all just get along and vote for a random vote?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 20, 2017 14:43:11 GMT -6
The thing is, if you are a civ you shouldn't be worried about your chances, only the towns. Boom. Outed. It's also the same reason why if you are a civilian, you should be willing to roll the dice on a random kill. |
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