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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 26, 2017 14:22:34 GMT -6
I think there are two possible camps here that seems to be lining up to me, it's either heebs and jhb, with heebs pushing hard to save Pete to seem credible.
Or it's spl/delap for previously mentioned reasons
Both pairs played excellent if this is the case and I'm having a hard time deciding which it could be. I think it would be harder for JHB/Heebs combo to pull off what I've seen here, but if two people can do it it would be them.
The delap spl strategy is easier to pull off, but it's also seeming easier to get them voted up, which makes me feel like there's a maf vote on one of them
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 26, 2017 14:23:57 GMT -6
So... Yeah. I guess delap and spl pile on who you wanna pile on, and jhb/heebs choose your pile on, and then me and banks can decide which one we think is more likely
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 14:25:08 GMT -6
Ok who has spl voted for and when? Could spl have realized that delap was dead today and is sacrificing delap today to win the game? so I am the first vote to vote out Duc and been on Delap for 2 rounds in a row on vote and I am mafia?
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 14:25:59 GMT -6
Ok who has spl voted for and when? Could spl have realized that delap was dead today and is sacrificing delap today to win the game? I don't know his past votes but I feel like he's voted delap a bunch. I don't think it would be a sacrifice if spl is mafia. I think he set this up last round knowing that Pete was already dead and then if he could get people to vote for me or delap this round he'd have a 2 v 2 game. I already know 2/3 of his list was wrong because I'm a civ and Pete was a civ.
If we had any margin for error the obvious play here would be to vote delap but if we've played right into his hand that means we lose.
I'm not sure who his partner could be which is the only thing that gives me pause about voting for him. I don't see an obvious pair here.
We CANNOT screw this up.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 14:27:04 GMT -6
Ok who has spl voted for and when? Could spl have realized that delap was dead today and is sacrificing delap today to win the game? so I am the first vote to vote out Duc and been on Delap for 2 rounds in a row on vote and I am mafia? What does this tell us? We don't know what he is yet.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 14:30:46 GMT -6
I think there are two possible camps here that seems to be lining up to me, it's either heebs and jhb, with heebs pushing hard to save Pete to seem credible. Or it's spl/delap for previously mentioned reasons Both pairs played excellent if this is the case and I'm having a hard time deciding which it could be. I think it would be harder for JHB/Heebs combo to pull off what I've seen here, but if two people can do it it would be them. The delap spl strategy is easier to pull off, but it's also seeming easier to get them voted up, which makes me feel like there's a maf vote on one of them See what I posted above. I don't see how this makes sense for spl and delap to be working together because if this was a work from spl all along it would make more sense to put people we know are civs in his group of 3 with Pete because that would send us all to vote for two people that would guarantee a 2 to 2 advantage for the mafia next round.
From my perspective, I think it would make more sense if spl were working with Heebs, Bankz, or you. Please don't take offense to that.
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 14:37:21 GMT -6
When you won the game of mafia before, you and yawn both had convenient excuses for why you weren't there. You showed up just when needed to chime in and sway public opinion, and you guys sacrificed majic as well before the tide turned against him. He said something dumb, but Duc was also an inactive noob and wasn't long for this game anyways. I feel like you're playing me. This is the exact strategy you've used to win mafia before. A lot of what you are doing now is what you did in game 1 when you were the last mafia to be eliminated. You trying to stir the pot on civs. Look at you before claiming that Bankz was up to something with his suspect list because it had Duc on it after it was eliminated. We now have eliminated Pete off that list. You are now trying to spin another theory to cast votes on others.
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 14:44:00 GMT -6
so I am the first vote to vote out Duc and been on Delap for 2 rounds in a row on vote and I am mafia? What does this tell us? We don't know what he is yet. It shows that I voted for him last round before you talked me onto Pete. I am fairly confident that 2 of JHB, Delap and BK are mafia. I am most suspecious of Delap at the moment and think he is most likely. Between you and BK it is a coin flip.
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Post by eric on Jun 26, 2017 14:48:10 GMT -6
sheet updatedif you think there are errors let me know specifically what you think they are. i corrected the delap-duc one on day two.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 14:49:08 GMT -6
When you won the game of mafia before, you and yawn both had convenient excuses for why you weren't there. You showed up just when needed to chime in and sway public opinion, and you guys sacrificed majic as well before the tide turned against him. He said something dumb, but Duc was also an inactive noob and wasn't long for this game anyways. I feel like you're playing me. This is the exact strategy you've used to win mafia before. A lot of what you are doing now is what you did in game 1 when you were the last mafia to be eliminated. You trying to stir the pot on civs. Look at you before claiming that Bankz was up to something with his suspect list because it had Duc on it after it was eliminated. We now have eliminated Pete off that list. You are now trying to spin another theory to cast votes on others.
Stirring the pot on civs? Who have I stirred the pot on that's a civ other than the Pete/Heebs convo that was already stirred because I felt like Bankz may have been on to something? Obviously I was wrong, but I at least felt my moves had a benefit for the town when I made them. And speaking of stirring the pot, even you put Pete on the block in your projected mafia.
Any other time I'd be with you to vote delap because he's a prime suspect but at this point we're a turn away from losing. You started this train last round and were the first to jump back on it again this round with your vote.
spl
You've convinced me. Don't let this guy fool you the same way he did last time, civs. He's already beaten us doing this once before.
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Post by Bankz on Jun 26, 2017 15:00:07 GMT -6
2 Delap - SPL, Bankz 1 Bankz - Delap 1 SPL - JHB
2 yet to vote - Heebs, BK
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Post by Bankz on Jun 26, 2017 15:06:10 GMT -6
JHB does make a good point on SPL.
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Post by Bankz on Jun 26, 2017 15:06:58 GMT -6
I'm going to vote Odin for no other reason than he is utterly and totally useless
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Post by Bankz on Jun 26, 2017 15:07:36 GMT -6
I don't know why i voted typed Odin...
Sorry
BK
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 15:14:14 GMT -6
A lot of what you are doing now is what you did in game 1 when you were the last mafia to be eliminated. You trying to stir the pot on civs. Look at you before claiming that Bankz was up to something with his suspect list because it had Duc on it after it was eliminated. We now have eliminated Pete off that list. You are now trying to spin another theory to cast votes on others.
Stirring the pot on civs? Who have I stirred the pot on that's a civ other than the Pete/Heebs convo that was already stirred because I felt like Bankz may have been on to something? Obviously I was wrong, but I at least felt my moves had a benefit for the town when I made them. And speaking of stirring the pot, even you put Pete on the block in your projected mafia.
Any other time I'd be with you to vote delap because he's a prime suspect but at this point we're a turn away from losing. You started this train last round and were the first to jump back on it again this round with your vote.
spl
You've convinced me. Don't let this guy fool you the same way he did last time, civs. He's already beaten us doing this once before.
You stirred the pot on Pete by saying Bankz was onto something and you took votes off Delap and put them on Pete. You only voted Duc when he was being voted off.
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 15:16:32 GMT -6
Right now the 2 that I feel are Mafia are Delap and JHB. If we vote out any other combination this is going to be a loss for us.
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Post by Bankz on Jun 26, 2017 15:19:42 GMT -6
Right now the 2 that I feel are Mafia are Delap and JHB. If we vote out any other combination this is going to be a loss for us. Is this a hill your willing to die on? Because if people follow and your wrong your a sure fire villain vote next round
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 15:26:07 GMT -6
Right now the 2 that I feel are Mafia are Delap and JHB. If we vote out any other combination this is going to be a loss for us. Is this a hill your willing to die on? Because if people follow and your wrong your a sure fire villain vote next round If we miss on a mafia member this round the game is pretty much over.
We have left
BK SPL Bankz Heebs JHB
If we do not hit this round they have controlling vote.
I still feel that Bankz and Heebs are civs with me. Look at the voting paterns, it makes most sense. BK I do not feel is mafia based off how he has played previous games as civ vs mafia. This JHB is very much like game 1 jhb in being a spin machine, I am fairly confident the remaining 2 mafia members are Delap and JHB.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jun 26, 2017 15:35:58 GMT -6
I don't know why i voted typed Odin... Sorry BKIf you're voting people this round on the basis they are "useless" you are mafia or the dumbest town ever.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:38:09 GMT -6
Stirring the pot on civs? Who have I stirred the pot on that's a civ other than the Pete/Heebs convo that was already stirred because I felt like Bankz may have been on to something? Obviously I was wrong, but I at least felt my moves had a benefit for the town when I made them. And speaking of stirring the pot, even you put Pete on the block in your projected mafia.
Any other time I'd be with you to vote delap because he's a prime suspect but at this point we're a turn away from losing. You started this train last round and were the first to jump back on it again this round with your vote.
spl
You've convinced me. Don't let this guy fool you the same way he did last time, civs. He's already beaten us doing this once before.
You stirred the pot on Pete by saying Bankz was onto something and you took votes off Delap and put them on Pete. You only voted Duc when he was being voted off. You did the same thing! And you keep ignoring that soup posted his vote roughly the same time I did. Your vote for duc is just as meaningless. Please don't let spl beat us like this AGAIN guys.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:39:51 GMT -6
The vote that changed from delap to Pete was you, spl.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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Post by Heebs on Jun 26, 2017 15:40:35 GMT -6
Why is BK a civ?
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:42:21 GMT -6
There was an opportunity at the end of last round where you could have flipped back to delap and we'd know now that he's mafia.
But you didn't and you stayed on Pete.
If you're so sure delap is mafia, why didn't you eliminate him when you had a chance?
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 15:45:03 GMT -6
You stirred the pot on Pete by saying Bankz was onto something and you took votes off Delap and put them on Pete. You only voted Duc when he was being voted off. You did the same thing! And you keep ignoring that soup posted his vote roughly the same time I did. Your vote for duc is just as meaningless. Please don't let spl beat us like this AGAIN guys. So first vote on an individual that did not have any votes from the previous round is the same as a vote 2 minutes after a person is confirmed to be voted off? Seriously?
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:46:36 GMT -6
You've done it before with Majic! You and yawn voted for him before the tide ever turned on him. It's why I eliminated you guys from consideration. You're the only person who has really pulled it off. I'm not making the same mistake again.
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Post by Heebs on Jun 26, 2017 15:47:43 GMT -6
BK - never voted for a mafia; bad luck or intentional? Bankz - Mafia MVP or dumb townie; with all due respect I don't think he's mafia. Delap - only person he's voted for that was NOT a confirmed civ was Bankz, who I think is a civ. JHB - only mafia vote was for Duc at the end. Could have voted for me to make it 4-3 instead of 5-2 and add potential to keep Duc alive. Could have been a pile-on ruse. Who knows. I'm not voting for him now. SPL - early on Duc. Never waivered. Not voting for him today.
So it's between Delap and BK for me.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:48:13 GMT -6
People can choose to believe me or not. I voted for duc before I saw Soup's vote. They were within minutes of each other.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:49:59 GMT -6
BK - never voted for a mafia; bad luck or intentional? Bankz - Mafia MVP or dumb townie; with all due respect I don't think he's mafia. Delap - only person he's voted for that was NOT a confirmed civ was Bankz, who I think is a civ. JHB - only mafia vote was for Duc at the end. Could have voted for me to make it 4-3 instead of 5-2 and add potential to keep Duc alive. Could have been a pile-on ruse. Who knows. I'm not voting for him now. SPL - early on Duc. Never waivered. Not voting for him today. So it's between Delap and BK for me. If this is where you're at then please don't vote with spl. I really feel like I'm getting played and I don't want the same mistake again. delap could be mafia but it's more likely if this is a ploy from spl he'd do it to tie the game, not to sacrifice his own guy
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Post by SPL on Jun 26, 2017 15:50:11 GMT -6
There was an opportunity at the end of last round where you could have flipped back to delap and we'd know now that he's mafia. But you didn't and you stayed on Pete. If you're so sure delap is mafia, why didn't you eliminate him when you had a chance? Because you made a case that 3 different people had scenrios that all had the same person invovled and that was Pete. I voted that way because I saw the logic and you swung my vote because I was suspicous of him.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 26, 2017 15:53:02 GMT -6
There was an opportunity at the end of last round where you could have flipped back to delap and we'd know now that he's mafia. But you didn't and you stayed on Pete. If you're so sure delap is mafia, why didn't you eliminate him when you had a chance? Because you made a case that 3 different people had scenrios that all had the same person invovled and that was Pete. I voted that way because I saw the logic and you swung my vote because I was suspicous of him. Your original logic for putting me in my group of 3 was because I was following instead of leading in this game. I didn't ask anyone to change their vote. I just explained myself. You holding me changing votes against me when you're the one that changed your vote is idiotic.
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