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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:15:46 GMT -6
Anyone else wanna say in?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:16:53 GMT -6
I'm torn between majic and delap at this point. No reason to suspect either really but same reasoning for my first round vote.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 24, 2017 10:16:58 GMT -6
Pushing harder day one than usual. Also hopping on and voting majic is fishy. He is probably town (we are all probably town) but at this point in the game I typically just look for behavior that is slightly out of character while still looking mostly in character. It's burned me in the past (end up outing power town roles), but you can tell a difference between peoples playstyles as civ vs nonciv. lol ok. You havent played the last last couple games so I will give you a pass but I have been making more of a concerted effort to not let silent/inactive types sneak through because it fucks the town at the end (a couple games ago delap made it to the end and we had no clue on him because he had been MIA and it sucked). There has also been more pushback against the RNG vote round 1 for similar reasons. Go back and read the last couple games if you want to see what was said. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:17:15 GMT -6
Anyone else wanna chime in? |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 24, 2017 10:18:07 GMT -6
I think they should come out. Limits our targets this round and next. Limits the vigilante's targets this round and next. Gives the mafia two targets, but the mafia is going to kill civs anyways.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 24, 2017 10:19:07 GMT -6
And then in this game I have targeted GBG because his logic didn't make sense and I was trying to convince him to go with another strategy bc it was just going to get him killed. And I have targeted majic who wasn't around at all except to vote with 4 minutes left with the only reasoning being self protection (which makes sense but gave us no real info).
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:19:09 GMT -6
Thought it was interesting that majic just said he went with his vote for self preservation and didn't mention not being "mafia"
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Post by TimPig on Jul 24, 2017 10:20:10 GMT -6
Pushing harder day one than usual. Also hopping on and voting majic is fishy. He is probably town (we are all probably town) but at this point in the game I typically just look for behavior that is slightly out of character while still looking mostly in character. It's burned me in the past (end up outing power town roles), but you can tell a difference between peoples playstyles as civ vs nonciv. lol ok. You havent played the last last couple games so I will give you a pass but I have been making more of a concerted effort to not let silent/inactive types sneak through because it fucks the town at the end (a couple games ago delap made it to the end and we had no clue on him because he had been MIA and it sucked). There has also been more pushback against the RNG vote round 1 for similar reasons. Go back and read the last couple games if you want to see what was said. Inb4BKsayshehasbetterthingstodothancheckMafiaalldayandcanonlydoitwhileheistakingashit |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 24, 2017 10:20:40 GMT -6
A downside is that it prevents the mafia from killing the traitor, which is a possibility if they're randomly killing civs.
Another upside is that the bros don't have a ton of utility unless they are among the last two alive. So it's basically like forfeiting two vanilla civs to avoid killing a useful power role.
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Post by TimPig on Jul 24, 2017 10:22:38 GMT -6
Anyone else wanna say in? This game is weird to me because of the abundance of power roles, but going back and reading the reasoning, I certainly think it makes sense for them to reveal themselves. I don't think we'll be able to discern anything from voting patterns if we wait an extra day. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 24, 2017 10:23:50 GMT -6
A downside is that it prevents the mafia from killing the traitor, which is a possibility if they're randomly killing civs. Another upside is that the bros don't have a ton of utility unless they are among the last two alive. So it's basically like forfeiting two vanilla civs to avoid killing a useful power role. Would killing the traitor really be that big of a deal for the mafia though? I might be wrong in my understanding of the role since it's the first time we've had it, but I thought numbers wise they still count as town (they just only win if mafia wins so they would try to sabotage/cloud the waters). But if there are 5 people left, 2 mafia, 2 Civs and the traitor - the game would still continue. Can you verify Odin? if that is the case, the traitor is still someone the mafia needs to take out |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 24, 2017 10:24:50 GMT -6
A downside is that it prevents the mafia from killing the traitor, which is a possibility if they're randomly killing civs. Another upside is that the bros don't have a ton of utility unless they are among the last two alive. So it's basically like forfeiting two vanilla civs to avoid killing a useful power role. Would killing the traitor really be that big of a deal for the mafia though? I might be wrong in my understanding of the role since it's the first time we've had it, but I thought numbers wise they still count as town (they just only win if mafia wins so they would try to sabotage/cloud the waters). But if there are 5 people left, 2 mafia, 2 Civs and the traitor - the game would still continue. Can you verify Odin ? if that is the case, the traitor is still someone the mafia needs to take out Second time we've had a traitor. Never forget the greatest Mafia moment of all time... |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:25:22 GMT -6
How about if everyone revealed their role? What would that do?
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Post by Odin on Jul 24, 2017 10:26:13 GMT -6
if it were 2 mafia, 2 civs, and the traitor it would be an automatic mafia victory, however if only the traitor, civs, and 0 mafia are alive the game ends with a civ victory
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 24, 2017 10:26:15 GMT -6
Would killing the traitor really be that big of a deal for the mafia though? I might be wrong in my understanding of the role since it's the first time we've had it, but I thought numbers wise they still count as town (they just only win if mafia wins so they would try to sabotage/cloud the waters). But if there are 5 people left, 2 mafia, 2 Civs and the traitor - the game would still continue. Can you verify Odin ? if that is the case, the traitor is still someone the mafia needs to take out Second time we've had a traitor. Never forget the greatest Mafia moment of all time... lol, Benedict was technically different though. He had the choice of switching teams. This one is just a townie who wins if Mafia wins and loses if the town wins. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 24, 2017 10:26:25 GMT -6
A downside is that it prevents the mafia from killing the traitor, which is a possibility if they're randomly killing civs. Another upside is that the bros don't have a ton of utility unless they are among the last two alive. So it's basically like forfeiting two vanilla civs to avoid killing a useful power role. what's up Andrew |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 24, 2017 10:27:06 GMT -6
I am on board with the brothers sharing their roles. Knowing can only help the town make smarter decisions now, even if it does mean they get picked off sooner, we have a better chance of making smart moves now rather than later.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:27:15 GMT -6
Lol
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Post by Heebs on Jul 24, 2017 10:28:41 GMT -6
True story - Canes called "dibs on Aaron". :facepalm:
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 24, 2017 10:28:49 GMT -6
Wait so is it Canes and Heebs?
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 24, 2017 10:28:55 GMT -6
How about if everyone revealed their role? What would that do? Would we be able to trust everyone? The brothers make sense because there is another person to confirm/verify their role is what they claim. This seems like it would be akin to everyone claiming civ or power role in a regular game. Although with multiple power roles, I guess that changes things from a regular game. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 24, 2017 10:29:10 GMT -6
lol
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 24, 2017 10:29:51 GMT -6
What would it do if the rest of the Civ power roles outed themselves like Soup suggested?
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 24, 2017 10:30:34 GMT -6
True story - Canes called "dibs on Aaron". :facepalm: tis true |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:30:42 GMT -6
How about if everyone revealed their role? What would that do? Would we be able to trust everyone? The brothers make sense because there is another person to confirm/verify their role is what they claim. This seems like it would be akin to everyone claiming civ or power role in a regular game. Although with multiple power roles, I guess that changes things from a regular game. That's what I'm thinking with there being so many power roles. It leaves us with 2 unknown civs, 3 mafia, 1 traitor. |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 24, 2017 10:30:56 GMT -6
What would it do if the rest of the Civ power roles outed themselves like Soup suggested? Put the mafia into a bind on which power roles they double up. I think it would effectively win us the game, though I've not played it out. It would also ruin Odin's game as it's not how he intended for the game to be played. |
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Post by rv12 on Jul 24, 2017 10:32:07 GMT -6
What would be incredible is if 2 mafia also claimed to be the brothers. That'd be fun.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 24, 2017 10:32:42 GMT -6
Are there specific ones that we should look at seeing if there's an advantage for one person to come out so they can get Dr. J protection?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:32:48 GMT -6
What would it do if the rest of the Civ power roles outed themselves like Soup suggested? Put the mafia into a bind on which power roles they double up. I think it would effectively win us the game, though I've not played it out. It would also ruin Odin's game as it's not how he intended for the game to be played. The game is intended to be won. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 24, 2017 10:33:54 GMT -6
Everyone reveal role.
Vigilante takes his two shots.
Jesus can save if need be.
Dr j can revive if need be.
Puts us in a nice spot right?
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