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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 9:45:08 GMT -6
I am around now, had to drop wife off at airport. I do agree with no lynching early and let our investigators find us someone. So I will switch to no vote no vote or a vote for no kill? They are very different votes. |
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Post by Heebs on Aug 7, 2017 9:48:22 GMT -6
If we can get a more concrete % on it being slightly more beneficial to kill someone (even at random), I'll switch to one of the inactive fellows (probably fecta or rv) This is an absurd request given that no one has provided a concrete percentage on it being more beneficial to not lynch someone. |
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Post by SPL on Aug 7, 2017 9:49:08 GMT -6
no kill, I don't want to see us kill someone with no info at the start
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Post by Delap on Aug 7, 2017 9:49:27 GMT -6
OK... looking at the numbers I do agree it is slightly more likely that we make a good kill than a disastrous kill (like taking out the sheriff or other investigative role).... and equally likely that we make a good kill than a bad kill (killing any other power civ.)
I'm good with voting for fecta or rv, whoever is the closest to dying.
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Post by rv12 on Aug 7, 2017 9:53:38 GMT -6
If we can get a more concrete % on it being slightly more beneficial to kill someone (even at random), I'll switch to one of the inactive fellows (probably fecta or rv) Can I ask why I'm getting lumped in here? I've posted multiple times, voted, and said I'm driving right now but will be checking. I've got not problem if you want to vote for me but the inactive comment is false. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 7, 2017 9:54:53 GMT -6
Sorry for being absent, will probably be sparse rest of the day. Folks and my sister are in town for my birthday but leaving after lunch and then I'm going to a movie and dinner with the gf afterwards
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Post by rv12 on Aug 7, 2017 9:56:37 GMT -6
Bankz hasn't posted since voting for fecta with the inactive reasoning.
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Post by rv12 on Aug 7, 2017 9:57:17 GMT -6
Should've been bankz
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 9:57:22 GMT -6
If we can get a more concrete % on it being slightly more beneficial to kill someone (even at random), I'll switch to one of the inactive fellows (probably fecta or rv) Can I ask why I'm getting lumped in here? I've posted multiple times, voted, and said I'm driving right now but will be checking. I've got not problem if you want to vote for me but the inactive comment is false. posting messages that consist of nothing are better than not being around at all, but if you aren't weighing in with opinions on strategies or providing analysis, it isn't adding much value to the town. In early games, mafia were able to skate by by being here and posting but not saying anything of substance or use, so that is why people are wary of the behavior now. |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 7, 2017 9:58:43 GMT -6
FectaDEEZ at least get a vote in bro, you were here to accept your tradeu Busy morning at work, just accepted the trade on my phone. Getting caught up now, its also just 9am here on the best coast. |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 7, 2017 9:59:30 GMT -6
RV because it seems like its me or him lol.
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Post by Odin on Aug 7, 2017 9:59:39 GMT -6
fecta
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 9:59:57 GMT -6
I was thinking the day ended at 11 am Central and not 1 pm for some reason, lol
That is why I was freaking out more about people not being here
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Post by TimPig on Aug 7, 2017 10:02:01 GMT -6
I'm personally just not a fan of no vote. I can see why it might be more favorable here than it usually is, but I think we have to do as much as we can to establish voting strategies.
With how much roles can affect and play off of each other, I'm not real comfortable losing a day of potential leads to no voting.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 7, 2017 10:02:34 GMT -6
12 pm CT, 1 pm ET
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Post by Heebs on Aug 7, 2017 10:03:12 GMT -6
I can get behind this. bankz |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 10:05:02 GMT -6
Herb is switching votes. A lot. Always bandwagoning to another's vote with the reason of "I can get behind this" every time. And he really wanted us to execute someone instead of no kill.  Jester? |
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Post by TimPig on Aug 7, 2017 10:05:35 GMT -6
It seems that it's a risky move, but has been beneficial lately, where one person who is being "targeted" outs their role and that has a huge domino effect.
For example, JHB coming out as Veteran on Day 1 in the last game affected everything for the rest of the game.
Not saying I think anyone should reveal or anything, but if someone is going to be lynched and die anyway, would it make sense for them to out themselves?
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 10:05:53 GMT -6
Wait, Billy is using eastern time?   |
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Post by Heebs on Aug 7, 2017 10:09:37 GMT -6
Herb is switching votes. A lot. Always bandwagoning to another's vote with the reason of "I can get behind this" every time. And he really wanted us to execute someone instead of no kill. Jester? You got me. I am the jester. Town, don't kill me because if you do one of you will die. Mafia, kill me last because if you leave me around long enough the town might just kill me. #mafiahack |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 7, 2017 10:11:05 GMT -6
Can we get an updated vote count.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 7, 2017 10:17:27 GMT -6
so we're expected to just mindlessly lynch people without any thought about if we are lynching the right people? The only support I've seen is "BK says sometimes it's the right move not to lynch anyone early in the game." We have a lot of roles. Some of them are mafia. Some of them are neutral evil. Some of them are benign. Some of them are town. We're going to inevitably wind up killing a town power role. But if we all vote no kill, then the mafia and neutral evil get a free pass today and we don't get any info from how votes go down. I don't think we're (I'm?) mindlessly lynching anyone. So far I've voted for (i) a joke vote to get on the board that I was always changing, (ii) an inactive player to get him active, and (iii) an inactive player to get him active. I feel like one of our business folks should do a SWAT analysis of the no lynch approach. I nominate [Account Deleted] Neutral roles could get hit by the mafia, too, though. So, it may pay off to not accidentally kill a power civ, then have the mafia kill off another potential power civ. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 7, 2017 10:26:25 GMT -6
so you are saying Day 2 you support "mindlessly lynching" someone if we are only going to be missing out on Day 1 votes? Then Day 2 votes just become Day 1 votes. Or are you going to support the no kill strategy every day until the sheriff/investigator finds someone? Not trying to rag on the idea, just trying to flesh out the full plan here the game falls apart for the mafia when roles start getting determined and it becomes harder for the mafia to hide. I think getting as much night info as possible is a better advantage then taking a blind stab on day one. Another con is that as soon as people start coming forward with info, the mafia will also know the role of the person bringing the info. Also, some roles don't give you all the information you need to determine someone's role. The investigator is only a 50/50; so it may take more than one night just to clear one person. |
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Post by Delap on Aug 7, 2017 10:34:28 GMT -6
bankz
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 7, 2017 10:35:34 GMT -6
Should I vote for Bankz now? Im just trying to live. Jafeel?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 7, 2017 10:37:27 GMT -6
Odin had ruined games before because he said having no execution votes is stupid right?
Now he's pushing for a no execution vote?
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 7, 2017 10:37:48 GMT -6
the game falls apart for the mafia when roles start getting determined and it becomes harder for the mafia to hide. I think getting as much night info as possible is a better advantage then taking a blind stab on day one. Another con is that as soon as people start coming forward with info, the mafia will also know the role of the person bringing the info. Also, some roles don't give you all the information you need to determine someone's role. The investigator is only a 50/50; so it may take more than one night just to clear one person. right, which is why it would be important to give the investigators more than one night to do their night jobs. I don't see the risk reward being worth it. It's not a long term strategy, but I think its a good day 1 strat. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 7, 2017 10:39:46 GMT -6
Odin had ruined games before because he said having no execution votes is stupid right? Now he's pushing for a no execution vote? Im confident ive only ruined one game. |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 7, 2017 10:45:14 GMT -6
Bankz
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 7, 2017 10:48:53 GMT -6
Vote count?
Not a big fan of the bankz lynching, he is active and provides some value when he is here. Just guessing he had something come up this morning.
Others don't provide any theories or ideas even when they are here.
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