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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 8, 2017 17:59:42 GMT -6
that was really well done by JHB and 20s though (and Canes, who probably helped w/ strategy as well). I didn't start to doubt JHB at all until SPL came up empty. But using the serial killer intel the way you did was perfect. You covering 20s the same night he got attacked by the SK was what did the town in. Night 1 and Night 2 had so many crazy interactions. The framer getting heebs, and timpig watching him. Delap investigated 20s night one, but was the mafia kill. Timpig also investigated pete when canes was on him. Both times timpig didnt say anything that they appeared to be mafia. Secret town MVP right there. Wow basically everything went our way except HOW THE FUCK did TimPig not say either of our framing targets showed as mafia? |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 8, 2017 18:00:07 GMT -6
Honestly I thought gbg would blow my spot up and not do the night move I needed on the last night.
Was pretty sure he was on to me
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 8, 2017 18:00:37 GMT -6
Not blaming pete but had he led off with that instead of immediately voting for me I probably would have been more receptive. I changed to no vote to re-read and let him type more but it was 1-1 tie and bk put a 15 minute timer on it. Was that a mess up bk? The 15 minute timer to end the day had went up, and it was a 1-1 tie. So therefore it goes to one round of overtime, for 15 minutes. At the end of that its sudden death. Usually when the majority is broken it goes back to normal ending time. If that's something different with your game then we'll just have to adjust. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 8, 2017 18:00:44 GMT -6
I'm not blaming Soup for making the wrong call. I didn't do town any favors by being openly hostile to him after he and SPL were implicating me with 20s
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 8, 2017 18:01:35 GMT -6
Lmao fecta  |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 8, 2017 18:02:05 GMT -6
Also props to Heebs I suppose for having his jester ploy actually succeed
Well played sir
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 8, 2017 18:02:45 GMT -6
Lol you lost the game for us. "So don't shoot soup" Your contribution to the game. Better than losing us the game with a dumb ass decision. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:03:11 GMT -6
Lol you showed up in the thread for like 5 posts. Lol you lost the game for us. Says the secret vigilante that didn't shoot anyone all game :P |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 8, 2017 18:03:19 GMT -6
ALso props to canes as my other mafia partner, didn't mean to shortchange you, JHB was just more valuable than me or you It's all good my game got cut at the knees early with the jester kill. We made some great decisions with the frame it seems like. Would love to hear Timpig's though process of not coming forward. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 8, 2017 18:03:20 GMT -6
Is it just me or does the jester role not really do anything to better the game?
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Post by Bankz on Aug 8, 2017 18:03:52 GMT -6
I can only imagine the raging bankz was doing in dead civ chat. If you guys could only see... |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 8, 2017 18:04:34 GMT -6
I like it as a tool for different people to use
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Aug 8, 2017 18:05:11 GMT -6
Lol you lost the game for us. Says the secret vigilante that didn't shoot anyone all game :P The only person I wanted to shoot was 20s, but since he was probably the god father that would have been dumb. Just because you can kill two people doesn't mean you should unless you have solid reasoning. |
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Post by Bankz on Aug 8, 2017 18:05:28 GMT -6
I can only imagine the raging bankz was doing in dead civ chat. He wasn't a dead civ was he? I had access to the dead Civ thread |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 8, 2017 18:05:29 GMT -6
in all this was a really fun game, lots of twists and turns
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 8, 2017 18:05:56 GMT -6
Is it just me or does the jester role not really do anything to better the game? Agreed. Jester kill gives the jester an empty win And then kicks of a game of Russian roulette that will kill someone from either side. It's basically a reset button. Meh. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:05:57 GMT -6
Says the secret vigilante that didn't shoot anyone all game :P The only person I wanted to shoot was 20s, but since he was probably the god father that would have been dumb. Just because you can kill two people doesn't mean you should unless you have solid reasoning. It wouldn't have been dumb. You'd be like "20s is night immune I'm the vigilante" and then you'd lynch a mafia. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:07:01 GMT -6
Is it just me or does the jester role not really do anything to better the game? It's a role to appear as, broadens the amount of stances of post variations you'll see during games. So far you guys haven't figured out how to deal with it and lynch the jester type posts everytime. Eventually you'll stop lynching those posts, and then making those types of posts becomes an entire playstyle that both town and scum can use. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 8, 2017 18:07:09 GMT -6
He wasn't a dead civ was he? I had access to the dead Civ thread Thanks. Wasn't sure if the benign roles had access. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:07:50 GMT -6
He wasn't a dead civ was he? I had access to the dead Civ thread I gave all the dead non-maf access to the dead civ thread |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:08:20 GMT -6
Though if there was cult they wouldn't be added.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 8, 2017 18:08:46 GMT -6
So who in dead civ thread figured it out?
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 8, 2017 18:09:13 GMT -6
Yeah had to be awful for the dead civ chat with all the info at their disposal
They obviously knew it was me and JHB when they found out Tim and delap's roles
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 8, 2017 18:11:24 GMT -6
Janitor was a nice advantage for the mafia
I think my biggest contribution as mafia was pushing to use our sanitizes right away to prevent any role clarity.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 8, 2017 18:13:07 GMT -6
Janitor was a nice advantage for the mafia I think my biggest contribution as mafia was pushing to use our sanitizes right away to prevent any role clarity. We also got very lucky and took out both investigative roles |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:14:18 GMT -6
Janitor was a nice advantage for the mafia I think my biggest contribution as mafia was pushing to use our sanitizes right away to prevent any role clarity. 100% the correct strategy, it was everything I coudl do to not give you guys advice. you picked the correct plan most times! |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:18:40 GMT -6
Oh, in my next games investigator will be completely revamped. The dual role mentioning will be completely gone. Instead a system of "crimes" perpetrated by the player will be shown to the investigator
There will be a list published in the OP of "possible crimes". If the crimes are not committed, however, then they are not shown to the investigator. Though a mafioso can be guilty of "murder", if they have not killed anyone when they are investigated, that crime will not appear. Making it sometimes necessary to investigate someone twice. Here is an example of the list of roles, and the crimes they can possibly commit. The crimes will be what is displayed to the investigator.
Role Possible Crimes
Citizen
Sheriff
Doctor
Investigator Trespassing
Escort Soliciting, (Disturbing the peace)
Vigilante Trespassing, Murder
Mason
Bus Driver Murder
Bodyguard Murder
Mayor Corruption
Mason Leader Trespassing, Murder, Conspiracy, Soliciting
Detective Trespassing
Lookout Trespassing
Veteran Murder, Destruction of property
Mafioso Trespassing, Murder
Godfather Trespassing, Murder
Liason Soliciting, (Disturbing the peace)
Consigliere Trespassing
Framer Trespassing
Janitor Trespassing, Destruction of property
Silencer Trespassing
Serial Killer Trespassing, Murder
Survivor
Jester
Arsonist Trespassing, Murder, Destruction of property, Arson
Executioner
Amnesiac
Cultist Soliciting, Conspiracy
Mass Murderer Trespassing, Murder, Destruction of property
(this list will be cleaned up format wise for the OP next time)
Also I will be adding two new roles, Lookout and Detective. They are both town roles. The lookout has the ability to see anyone that visits their target. The detective has the ability to see who their target visits.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:22:48 GMT -6
Oh, there will also be a mafia role added in correspondence with these called Agent. The Agent is powerful, and has the combined ability of the Lookout and Detective, being able to see who their target visits AND anyone who visits their target. Though one of the options for the role is to restrict their usage to every other night.
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Post by eric on Aug 8, 2017 18:26:42 GMT -6
Is it just me or does the jester role not really do anything to better the game? It's a role to appear as, broadens the amount of stances of post variations you'll see during games. So far you guys haven't figured out how to deal with it and lynch the jester type posts everytime. Eventually you'll stop lynching those posts, and then making those types of posts becomes an entire playstyle that both town and scum can use. is it bad for the town to kill off the jester though? they get rid of a neutral and they establish what two peoples' roles were (the jester and whoever dies from it), plus as we saw this game they might hit a mafia. i feel like anything that reduces uncertainty helps the town's chances. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 8, 2017 18:29:16 GMT -6
It's a role to appear as, broadens the amount of stances of post variations you'll see during games. So far you guys haven't figured out how to deal with it and lynch the jester type posts everytime. Eventually you'll stop lynching those posts, and then making those types of posts becomes an entire playstyle that both town and scum can use. is it bad for the town to kill off the jester though? they get rid of a neutral and they establish what two peoples' roles were (the jester and whoever dies from it), plus as we saw this game they might hit a mafia. i feel like anything that reduces uncertainty helps the town's chances. In this type of mafia, there is typically no lynch Day 1. If a lynch happens day 1, or any lynch without solid evidence it usually has mafia votes on it. Because of this Jester killing often helps the town. Especially late in the game. You guys are used to a more passive mafia, where the town has to lynch every day, but in this mafia no lynch can happen a few times a game and it's completely normal. |
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