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Post by Odin on Aug 18, 2017 7:58:00 GMT -6
bk don't care if he's a jester, i just want him dead
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Post by Delap on Aug 18, 2017 7:59:02 GMT -6
bk don't care if he's a jester, i just want him dead quality, salient post |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 8:02:02 GMT -6
7 - No execution - SPL, JHB, Soup, Fecta, 20s, Heebs, gbg
3 - BK - rv, pete, Odin
1 - Soup - Bankz
1 - Fecta - Delap
1 - Bankz - timpig
1 - JHB - BK
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Post by Heebs on Aug 18, 2017 8:02:32 GMT -6
I thought the day was over at 9? Is that 9pm?
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 8:03:55 GMT -6
I think he extended it.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 8:04:21 GMT -6
Hermione put an undetectable extension charm on Day 1.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 18, 2017 8:04:34 GMT -6
I thought the day was over at 9? Is that 9pm? 11:30 now |
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Post by Delap on Aug 18, 2017 8:06:55 GMT -6
I thought the day was over at 9? Is that 9pm? 11:30 now AM. Eastern Time. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 8:12:25 GMT -6
Okay; so I'm all caught up. Odin not because I think Odin is mafia. I just want to rethink the no execution strat.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 8:13:47 GMT -6
With neutral evil and mafia we could lose two or more in a mass murder situation during the night periods. Do we think it's a good idea to let the mafia/evil dictate the game, or no?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 8:14:35 GMT -6
I suppose, we could get lucky and have an evil guy kill a mafia member, but the odds are against it.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 8:25:27 GMT -6
The odds are also against us killing a bad guy on Day 1 but you seem pumped about doing that.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 8:29:49 GMT -6
The odds are also against us killing a bad guy on Day 1 but you seem pumped about doing that. I'm just for discussing the strategy before diving in head first, but feel free to beat down that strawman if it makes you feel better. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 8:31:43 GMT -6
The strategy no execution probably benefits the neutral evil more than anyone else. That's okay, if we still think it's more beneficial to the OOTP than the mafia, but that's what I thought we should discuss.
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Post by eric on Aug 18, 2017 8:34:18 GMT -6
i don't understand why billy isn't admin killed and suspended indefinitely
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 8:47:36 GMT -6
The strategy no execution probably benefits the neutral evil more than anyone else. That's okay, if we still think it's more beneficial to the OOTP than the mafia, but that's what I thought we should discuss. How? There's a chance with the set up of the game that there are only 2 neutral benigns and then one Death eater that is an undercover member of the OOTP. In this scenario, the day 1 kill has a 2/14 success rate for the town. Even if it swings the other way and we have 3 death eater, 2 neutral evil, and a Peter Pettigrew, that is a 6/14 success rate for the town. Regardless, we have at least one investigative role (potentially 2 or 3 with Snape or Neville later in the game), at least 1 protective role (Black/Weasley/Pomfrey), a role blocker (Harry), and potentially up to 3 civs that can protect themselves at night (Mad-Eye, Remus, Mundungus). Making no move to preserve the most lives now seems like a clear winner since we have so many abilities. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 18, 2017 8:58:36 GMT -6
i am back at my desk. 30 minutes left in day 1
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:02:06 GMT -6
The strategy no execution probably benefits the neutral evil more than anyone else. That's okay, if we still think it's more beneficial to the OOTP than the mafia, but that's what I thought we should discuss. How? There's a chance with the set up of the game that there are only 2 neutral benigns and then one Death eater that is an undercover member of the OOTP. In this scenario, the day 1 kill has a 2/14 success rate for the town. Even if it swings the other way and we have 3 death eater, 2 neutral evil, and a Peter Pettigrew, that is a 6/14 success rate for the town. Regardless, we have at least one investigative role (potentially 2 or 3 with Snape or Neville later in the game), at least 1 protective role (Black/Weasley/Pomfrey), a role blocker (Harry), and potentially up to 3 civs that can protect themselves at night (Mad-Eye, Remus, Mundungus). Making no move to preserve the most lives now seems like a clear winner since we have so many abilities. The way I read the set up is that there is Voldemort and 2 random death eaters, and 2 random neutrals that could be evil or benign. Is that not accurate. I kinda rushed through to get caught up when I got to work... But that's 5/14 people that aren't acting in the town's best interest. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:06:57 GMT -6
Also if Peter Pettigrew is one of the randoms then that's potentially 6/14 people that the OOTP could do without. Of course, the jester issue could kill someone useful, but it could also kill a mafia member if they are voting out the jester, too.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:08:50 GMT -6
Also, the random roles can't be duplicates; so it's not like we have 2 cops out there getting us information on investigations.
Evidence:
OotP
Harry Potter
Hermione Granger
Sirius Black OR Madam Pomfrey OR Arthur Weasley
6 random OotP members (can include whichever of the above is not picked)
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:09:32 GMT -6
So we ultimately have nearly 50% chance of killing neutral/traitor/deatheater
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:10:02 GMT -6
43% to be more precise
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:11:06 GMT -6
Plus we gain more information knowing who voted for whom.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 18, 2017 9:12:08 GMT -6
Plus we gain more information knowing who voted for whom. This is like the twilight zone. You've like completely flipped your stance on day 1 voting. |
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Post by Delap on Aug 18, 2017 9:14:19 GMT -6
We scared him into it over the course of 7 games.
Shock therapy works.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:20:13 GMT -6
Plus we gain more information knowing who voted for whom. This is like the twilight zone. You've like completely flipped your stance on day 1 voting. That's because I thought all this no execution jazz was a little suspicious. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 18, 2017 9:21:00 GMT -6
i don't understand why billy isn't admin killed and suspended indefinitely |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 18, 2017 9:23:33 GMT -6
How? There's a chance with the set up of the game that there are only 2 neutral benigns and then one Death eater that is an undercover member of the OOTP. In this scenario, the day 1 kill has a 2/14 success rate for the town. Even if it swings the other way and we have 3 death eater, 2 neutral evil, and a Peter Pettigrew, that is a 6/14 success rate for the town. Regardless, we have at least one investigative role (potentially 2 or 3 with Snape or Neville later in the game), at least 1 protective role (Black/Weasley/Pomfrey), a role blocker (Harry), and potentially up to 3 civs that can protect themselves at night (Mad-Eye, Remus, Mundungus). Making no move to preserve the most lives now seems like a clear winner since we have so many abilities. The way I read the set up is that there is Voldemort and 2 random death eaters, and 2 random neutrals that could be evil or benign. Is that not accurate. I kinda rushed through to get caught up when I got to work... But that's 5/14 people that aren't acting in the town's best interest. I probably worded that poorly. Based on the setup, there could be a Voldemort, random DE, and Snape plus two neutral benigns and then no Peter Pettigrew. In that scenario, town has a 2/14 success rate. At most the success rate is 6/14 if both neutrals are evil, there is no Snape, and there is a Wormtail. In a vanilla game where the voting info is the most important thing to have to identify your bad guys, I'd 100% agree with you. But now we have a lot of ability to protect ourselves and figure out who the other team is. The more people we keep alive now, the longer we can use those abilities to make informed decisions. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:24:19 GMT -6
We scared him into it over the course of 7 games. Shock therapy works. When I'm here at the start of the game and I have no info, I'm all for RNG vote. I have no evidence and think we should kill someone. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 18, 2017 9:25:33 GMT -6
Even if the neutrals aren't evil they aren't really helpful. If it's an amnesiac, he could steal a deatheaters role.
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