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Post by Odin on Aug 21, 2017 20:34:41 GMT -6
figure we can probably get one in wednesday-friday
delap is up to run it but if he doesn't want to i have a game ready to go
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 21, 2017 20:36:55 GMT -6
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Post by Odin on Aug 21, 2017 20:42:34 GMT -6
fwiw been working on a the wire themed game. two maf groups. it's gonna be great.
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Post by Bankz on Aug 21, 2017 20:42:36 GMT -6
Sounds good.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 21, 2017 21:11:12 GMT -6
Count me out if it's a themed game. The roles aren't clearly developed enough unless they match mafia roles exactly
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Post by SPL on Aug 21, 2017 21:14:00 GMT -6
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 21, 2017 21:14:22 GMT -6
out as host and as player. nothing to do with you guys, just don't have the time
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 21, 2017 21:24:20 GMT -6
Count me out if it's a themed game. The roles aren't clearly developed enough unless they match mafia roles exactly This |
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 6:59:32 GMT -6
now we have half the group only interested in themed games and half the group not interested in themed games
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 6:59:50 GMT -6
rip mafia, it was fun while it lasted
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Post by Heebs on Aug 22, 2017 7:02:49 GMT -6
Which half is only interested in theme games?
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 7:03:21 GMT -6
Which half is only interested in theme games? me |
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Post by TimPig on Aug 22, 2017 7:04:34 GMT -6
In for whichever
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 22, 2017 7:20:30 GMT -6
I'll play whatever.
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 7:30:31 GMT -6
Count me out if it's a themed game. The roles aren't clearly developed enough unless they match mafia roles exactly what if it's like 90% "real" mafia roles |
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 7:33:49 GMT -6
and everything is written in english not riddles
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 22, 2017 7:40:22 GMT -6
I just want to know what rules I am playing by and everything to go how the OP reads. If something is omitted then too bad. I don't want to waste my time playing an entire game with a strategy developed based on the OP only to find out I was wasting my time the entire time because there were caveats to my power not mentioned in the OP.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 22, 2017 7:43:05 GMT -6
i can run 17, but am down to play 16 ran by whomever setup whatever
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 7:48:02 GMT -6
i can run 17, but am down to play 16 ran by whomever setup whatever delap and i have the next two claimed fwiw. Delap do you want to run a game starting tomorrow? |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 22, 2017 7:48:18 GMT -6
I am also up for a standard game. The themes are probably fun to put together but I hate that half the game is spent clarifying with whoever is running the game the nuances of how roles interact or the inconsistencies from game to game on how some roles function.
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 7:52:02 GMT -6
this is what i have for a wire themed game. tell me anything that's confusing.
3 westside
3 eastside
6+ civs
1 wallace
1-2 neutral
starts at night with only the civs acting
Avon - godfather
Stringer - detective
Wee-Bay - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths
Bodie - joins eastside if last living member of westside
DeAngelo - framer
Brother - survives being killed at night once
Prop Joe - detective
Cheese - deceiver
Sergei - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths
The Greek - godfather
Ziggy - escort
Nick - joins town if last living member of eastside
Bunk - escort
Kima - can survive death once
Carcetti - mayor
Lester - detective (finds role)
Daniels - vet
McNulty - cop (finds alignment)
Prez - 1 kill vigilante
Hurk - bg
Sydnor - doctor
Wallace - starts game dead
Marlo - arsonist
Chris - executioner
Bubbles - wins if alive when game ends
Omar - kills any neutral or "mafia" that visits him at night
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Post by Delap on Aug 22, 2017 7:59:24 GMT -6
I want to run 16, but I'll wait til 17 if Odin really wants to do this. It will be themed, but check my LOTR post previously and I think you'll find mostly OG roles with few changes. I'll definitely make it as straight-forward as possible.
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 8:02:24 GMT -6
I want to run 16, but I'll wait til 17 if Odin really wants to do this. It will be themed, but check my LOTR post previously and I think you'll find mostly OG roles with few changes. I'll definitely make it as straight-forward as possible. It's probably not a great idea for me to run a wed-fri game honestly. So if you want to do it thats cool. Also if you dont want to we can get bk to doa standard one that could start tonight since we finished on monday this week. |
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Post by Delap on Aug 22, 2017 8:05:01 GMT -6
The Fellowship:
Gandalf the Grey: If killed (by either faction) he will return as Gandalf the White in a set amount of time (example: lynched on Day 1, will return for Day 2. Killed on Night 1, will return for Day 3)
Aragorn: A ranger from the North. He can investigate any one individual at night. OG Cop role. Can detect Sauron.
Boromir: The OG bodyguard, will give of himself to protect the Fellowship and the Hobbitses. May protect one person each night.
Legolas: Bowman. Has 2 arrows that can be fired at night (OG vigilante)(can use both on the same night, if he wishes)
Frodo Baggins: Holding the One Ring, he can disappear at night once to protect himself from any attacks. However, if he tries to use the ring again, Sauron (if still alive) will be able to detect him and his identity will be revealed to the forces of darkness. If Sauron falls, it means the ring was destroyed, so Frodo loses this power at that time.
Gimli: Vanilla Fellowship
Merry: Vanilla Fellowship
Pippin: Vanilla Fellowship
Sam: Vanilla Fellowship
Forces of Darkness:
Sauron: The ruler of Mordor. Can be discovered by Aragorn. Can discover Frodo if Frodo uses the One Ring for a 2nd time.
Saruman: The White Wizard. Using the Palantir, he can investigate a member of the Fellowship each night. As the Palantir corrupts and does not give the entire truth, he will be told the race of the member of the Fellowship, but not the exact name. (For this category, Aragorn will appear as both man and elf, so a discovery of “man” could be Aragorn or Boromir, a discovery of “elf” could be Aragorn or Legolas. Gandalf, the Balrog, and Tom Bombadil will be outed as “eternal beings”. Gollum will be outed as a “hobbit”. Gimli will be outed by name, as no one else shares his race in the Fellowship)
Witch-King of Angmar: The hitman for the Forces of Darkness until he is eliminated. The first Vanilla Fellowship member killed by the Witch-King can choose to return as a Ring Wraith on the side of Darkness. If this occurs, the Fellowship will not be notified of which user died, simply that that specific character (Merry, for example) has fallen to the Darkness. The Ring Wraith becomes allied with the Darkness, but can be lynched during the day like anyone (or killed by Legolas at night). However, the Ring Wraith will die if Saruman is eliminated.
Other Roles:
Gollum: He just wants his precious back. His goal is to kill Frodo. He will be told who Frodo is. He wins the game if Frodo is lynched (regardless of the ultimate outcome of the game.) He loses if Frodo is killed at night when he is not involved. If Frodo is lynched, his goal is to simply survive until the end, for he cares not about sides, he has his precious. He now has the One Ring and can disappear at night (one time). Like Frodo, if he uses it a 2nd time, he will be discovered by Sauron. If Frodo is killed at night, Gollum loses his mind and hurls himself into Mount Doom at dawn, dragging someone with him (his choice, but Sauron cannot be killed in this manner) He doesn’t care who it is, as he has already lost the game.
Tom Bombadil: A merry, gentle man of the woods… who can become fiercely protective of those in his care. His goal for the game is to protect the Hobbits. Each night he can protect a hobbit (he won’t know which user he is protecting, just the character) from attack. He wins the game with the Fellowship. Only dies when targeted, not when protecting the hobbit.
The Balrog: A creature of darkness and flame, the Balrog simply exists to serve evil. While not included in discussions for the Forces of Darkness, the Balrog wins when they do. The Balrog has 2 kills to use during any night (including on the same night, like Legolas). The Balrog can be lynched or killed at night.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 22, 2017 8:05:17 GMT -6
this is what i have for a wire themed game. tell me anything that's confusing. 3 westside 3 eastside 6+ civs 1 wallace 1-2 neutral starts at night with only the civs acting Avon - godfather Stringer - detective Wee-Bay - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths Bodie - joins eastside if last living member of westside DeAngelo - framer Brother - survives being killed at night once Prop Joe - detective Cheese - deceiver Sergei - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths The Greek - godfather Ziggy - escort Nick - joins town if last living member of eastside Bunk - escort Kima - can survive death once Carcetti - mayor Lester - detective (finds role) Daniels - vet McNulty - cop (finds alignment) Prez - 1 kill vigilante Hurk - bg Sydnor - doctor Wallace - starts game dead Marlo - arsonist Chris - executioner Bubbles - wins if alive when game ends Omar - kills any neutral or "mafia" that visits him at night you're going to need to clarify a lot of things for the people. like whether actions need to be activated. whether they can happen during the day. what type of feedback is given. examples: does a person doused by the arsonist know they are doused? does someone healed by a doctor know they are healed? you will be yelled at and bitched at by the asshole participants if you dont make all of this clear at the very beginning. |
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Post by Delap on Aug 22, 2017 8:08:20 GMT -6
I'd like to start Wednesday night (roles will be dispersed as soon as we have 15 in. We need at least 12, but 15 would be ideal to have each of the neutral roles involved.
Then End Day 1 at 1:00pm eastern on Thursday. End Day 2 at 9:30pm eastern on Thursday. End Day 3 at 1:00pm eastern on Friday. End Day 4 at 9:30pm eastern on Friday. Then Day 5, if necessary, will remain open until 1pm on Sunday. Day 6, if necessary, will end at 9:30pm on Sunday.
Hopefully with a set schedule people will be aware and able to participate more efficiently and effectively.
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Post by Delap on Aug 22, 2017 8:09:33 GMT -6
Is anybody 100% out if we use the LOTR rules I laid out above? Any clarification needed? I think it is fairly straightforward and balanced (because vanilla civs are necessary in this game)
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 8:09:46 GMT -6
this is what i have for a wire themed game. tell me anything that's confusing. 3 westside 3 eastside 6+ civs 1 wallace 1-2 neutral starts at night with only the civs acting Avon - godfather Stringer - detective Wee-Bay - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths Bodie - joins eastside if last living member of westside DeAngelo - framer Brother - survives being killed at night once Prop Joe - detective Cheese - deceiver Sergei - attempting to kill someone on alert results in both player's deaths The Greek - godfather Ziggy - escort Nick - joins town if last living member of eastside Bunk - escort Kima - can survive death once Carcetti - mayor Lester - detective (finds role) Daniels - vet McNulty - cop (finds alignment) Prez - 1 kill vigilante Hurk - bg Sydnor - doctor Wallace - starts game dead Marlo - arsonist Chris - executioner Bubbles - wins if alive when game ends Omar - kills any neutral or "mafia" that visits him at night you're going to need to clarify a lot of things for the people. like whether actions need to be activated. whether they can happen during the day. what type of feedback is given. examples: does a person doused by the arsonist know they are doused? does someone healed by a doctor know they are healed? you will be yelled at and bitched at by the asshole participants if you dont make all of this clear at the very beginning. why would anyone get told they're doused? that just reveals there's an arsonist. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 22, 2017 8:13:48 GMT -6
It's hard to know if there is clarification needed until you have a role and are in a game.
And then there are cases where you don't even think you need clarification because you carefully read the OP multiple times and as the OP reads, the roles are clear. But then you die anyway in a method that directly contradicts what the OP said. So I didn't even think to ask for clarification.
Honestly that LOTR post just looks like it's asking for confusion.
Out unless it's a standard game.
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Post by Odin on Aug 22, 2017 8:15:48 GMT -6
It's hard to know if there is clarification needed until you have a role and are in a game. And then there are cases where you don't even think you need clarification because you carefully read the OP multiple times and as the OP reads, the roles are clear. But then you die anyway in a method that directly contradicts what the OP said. So I didn't even think to ask for clarification. Honestly that LOTR post just looks like it's asking for confusion. Out unless it's a standard game. what is so terrible about mine |
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