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Post by TimPig on Sept 6, 2017 8:14:52 GMT -6
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Post by TimPig on Sept 6, 2017 8:15:32 GMT -6
Skrouse's reasoning for voting Majic seems like the only sliver of info we have to go on at this point, so I'm going to vote for him to ensure I at least get something in.
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:16:28 GMT -6
i am still confused why my name got thrown out there to quickly and then everyone jumped on it
because i missed a vote?
i stand by my statements regarding Druce and his style of play being very different this game, then throws a random vote onto me early, and allows the rest of the mafia jump on along without any consequence
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Post by TimPig on Sept 6, 2017 8:20:37 GMT -6
i am still confused why my name got thrown out there to quickly and then everyone jumped on it because i missed a vote? i stand by my statements regarding Druce and his style of play being very different this game, then throws a random vote onto me early, and allows the rest of the mafia jump on along without any consequence I'm doing so because of Skrouse's point that a known investigator, Odin, voted for you before he died. It's not perfectly reliable, but we don't have anything to go on really at this point. |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:25:21 GMT -6
i am still confused why my name got thrown out there to quickly and then everyone jumped on it because i missed a vote? i stand by my statements regarding Druce and his style of play being very different this game, then throws a random vote onto me early, and allows the rest of the mafia jump on along without any consequence I'm doing so because of Skrouse's point that a known investigator, Odin, voted for you before he died. It's not perfectly reliable, but we don't have anything to go on really at this point. a known investigator that had 1 night to investigate anyone? talk about batting .1000 its more likely he had no idea what anyone was and instead threw a vote out towards someone meanwhile you have Druce running with that idea, getting all of you to follow him and easily having plausible deniability "well odin voted for him" mean while you lose another town ally and the count is almost even |
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Post by Delap on Sept 6, 2017 8:29:22 GMT -6
majic,
the heat will be on you unless you are willing to come out and say who you are.
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Sept 6, 2017 8:29:36 GMT -6
majic
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Post by Delap on Sept 6, 2017 8:30:14 GMT -6
are you silenced? blink twice for yes, respond to this message for no |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:38:45 GMT -6
majic, the heat will be on you unless you are willing to come out and say who you are. so let me get this straight as you guys claim Odin has 1 shot to investigate someone. Gets it perfectly right then proceeds to vote for me, thus showing to all of you that he knew who i was BUT wait its OT and he doesnt provide any insight or help? he is about to die, you dont think the smart play is to come out and say "hey this might get me killed tonight, but I know that Majic is Mafia so lets at least knock one of them out" instead he just stays quiet and dies himeslf? makes no sense that he had any mroe knowledge after that first night than the rest of us |
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Post by Druce on Sept 6, 2017 8:41:39 GMT -6
i believe he was sleeping when it went to ot, but that could be incorrect. with so many missed votes last round it's hard to establish a trend. 3 out of my 4 visits last game i drilled mafia members, so it's not unthinkable that odin took a shot in the dark and got lucky with his first visit
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Post by Delap on Sept 6, 2017 8:42:39 GMT -6
i believe he was sleeping when it went to ot, but that could be incorrect. with so many missed votes last round it's hard to establish a trend. 3 out of my 4 visits last game i drilled mafia members, so it's not unthinkable that odin took a shot in the dark and got lucky with his first visit phrasing. |
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 8:43:23 GMT -6
I'm doing so because of Skrouse's point that a known investigator, Odin, voted for you before he died. It's not perfectly reliable, but we don't have anything to go on really at this point. a known investigator that had 1 night to investigate anyone? talk about batting .1000 its more likely he had no idea what anyone was and instead threw a vote out towards someone meanwhile you have Druce running with that idea, getting all of you to follow him and easily having plausible deniability "well odin voted for him" mean while you lose another town ally and the count is almost even I am open to changing my vote, need a reason why though, better to go on a sliver of evidence than nothing at all |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:43:43 GMT -6
i believe he was sleeping when it went to ot, but that could be incorrect. with so many missed votes last round it's hard to establish a trend. 3 out of my 4 visits last game i drilled mafia members, so it's not unthinkable that odin took a shot in the dark and got lucky with his first visit then why not be vocal about it? even if you think you are on the fringe of getting voted out, you say something and at least take another Mafia with you but instead he randomly threw a vote on me, gave no real good reason then died but yup! ODIN knew everything |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:47:30 GMT -6
a known investigator that had 1 night to investigate anyone? talk about batting .1000 its more likely he had no idea what anyone was and instead threw a vote out towards someone meanwhile you have Druce running with that idea, getting all of you to follow him and easily having plausible deniability "well odin voted for him" mean while you lose another town ally and the count is almost even I am open to changing my vote, need a reason why though, better to go on a sliver of evidence than nothing at all what evidence does Druce have? a random vote from Odin and his word? because if you all continue to follow his word, and he gets 2 town members out between me and someone at night, whoever is left is fucked |
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Post by TimPig on Sept 6, 2017 8:51:13 GMT -6
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 8:53:05 GMT -6
I am open to changing my vote, need a reason why though, better to go on a sliver of evidence than nothing at all what evidence does Druce have? a random vote from Odin and his word? because if you all continue to follow his word, and he gets 2 town members out between me and someone at night, whoever is left is fucked I'm not going off of what Druce has said, just off Odin's vote. I have no info or else I would share. Do you have any info to persuade the vote to another target? |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 8:59:45 GMT -6
what evidence does Druce have? a random vote from Odin and his word? because if you all continue to follow his word, and he gets 2 town members out between me and someone at night, whoever is left is fucked I'm not going off of what Druce has said, just off Odin's vote. I have no info or else I would share. Do you have any info to persuade the vote to another target? there isnt anything to go on, i guess thats my point I think that Druce is playing alot differently this game than i can remember, and is taking opportune times to sway votes. maybe he is right and leads the rest of the town to victory, maybe he is Mafia and is just playing us all I think Odin didnt have shit on me or anyone else. if he had something he should have made it more known in order to at least save himself. as soon as he came in the crosshairs he never said anything about having information. that in itself should show he had nothing. self preservation takes over the piling on is making things way too easy for the Mafia to hide behind votes |
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Post by Heebs on Sept 6, 2017 9:00:49 GMT -6
Here are my stream of conscious thoughts for what they are worth.
Odin's vote for Majic is a one-off vote. If he had solid intel, he would have been more insistent. It's surprising that Odin didn't vote for Timpig despite TimPig being the only person that could save Odin from being lynched. Maybe Odin knew something. If we have an investigative role left (we should), I'd suggest we clear TimPig tonight.
Pete's switch to vote for TimPig to save Odin looks good for Pete. We know Odin was a power civ and not mafia. We don't know whether TimPig is mafia or not. If TimPig's investigation turns up mafia, I've got a good feeling about Pete.
Skrouse has been skating by so far without really contributing a lot. He's been active, which is nice, but he seems to be band wagoning on other people's votes/opinions. That's pretty telling when all of our lynches so far have been townies. If Majic is in fact town, I'm very suspicious at this point of Skrouse.
Timpig is someone I've been suspicious of for a while. If Majic turns up mafia I think that clears him. If not, I hope we have intel on him.
Bankz has been quiet. Usually that'd be to the benefit of the town because Bankz is a terrible player. It is the middle of the work week and he manages a lunch shop - so I'll give him a pass. At least he's voting, which is better than normal.
Delap - I have a good feeling about Delap. He's been helpful and had some good questions/insights.
I'm not sure what to make of Druce. Similar to TimPig, I think Majic being mafia helps us clear him and then we've got a civ coalition to go with. If Majic is not mafia, I'm afraid our goose is cooked as it's a Druce/Tim/Skrouse mafia or Druce/Tim/Bankz mafia.
At this point, I think we need to find out Majic's role to get better intel, so despite my feeling that we're chasing a red herring with Odin's vote for Majic, I'll vote majic to move the game along.
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 9:03:36 GMT -6
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Post by eric on Sept 6, 2017 9:05:23 GMT -6
7 majic - everyone else
1 timpig - bankz
not yet voted - majic
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Post by Delap on Sept 6, 2017 9:06:12 GMT -6
Potential Silencer Scenarios:
Scenario 1: Attempted silencing on Night 1 failed, Fecta silenced Night 2
Scenario 2: No silencing attempted on Night 1, Fecta silenced Night 2
Scenario 3: 20s silenced Night 1, Fecta silenced Night 2
Scenario 4: Fecta is faking it
#3 doesn't seem realistic, because you know... he was killed. However, he could've been bused and be the missing link with TimPig... but still, that doesn't make sense.
#2 doesn't really make sense either, why not use the power?
#1 only works if we have an escort that happened to hit the silencer on Night 1. I don't see any other roles that would stop a silencing.
#4 is definitely possible.
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Post by Delap on Sept 6, 2017 9:06:33 GMT -6
headed to lunch now, per the usual.
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 9:10:09 GMT -6
Here are my stream of conscious thoughts for what they are worth. Odin's vote for Majic is a one-off vote. If he had solid intel, he would have been more insistent. It's surprising that Odin didn't vote for Timpig despite TimPig being the only person that could save Odin from being lynched. Maybe Odin knew something. If we have an investigative role left (we should), I'd suggest we clear TimPig tonight. Pete's switch to vote for TimPig to save Odin looks good for Pete. We know Odin was a power civ and not mafia. We don't know whether TimPig is mafia or not. If TimPig's investigation turns up mafia, I've got a good feeling about Pete. Skrouse has been skating by so far without really contributing a lot. He's been active, which is nice, but he seems to be band wagoning on other people's votes/opinions. That's pretty telling when all of our lynches so far have been townies. If Majic is in fact town, I'm very suspicious at this point of Skrouse. Timpig is someone I've been suspicious of for a while. If Majic turns up mafia I think that clears him. If not, I hope we have intel on him. Bankz has been quiet. Usually that'd be to the benefit of the town because Bankz is a terrible player. It is the middle of the work week and he manages a lunch shop - so I'll give him a pass. At least he's voting, which is better than normal. Delap - I have a good feeling about Delap. He's been helpful and had some good questions/insights. I'm not sure what to make of Druce. Similar to TimPig, I think Majic being mafia helps us clear him and then we've got a civ coalition to go with. If Majic is not mafia, I'm afraid our goose is cooked as it's a Druce/Tim/Skrouse mafia or Druce/Tim/Bankz mafia. At this point, I think we need to find out Majic's role to get better intel, so despite my feeling that we're chasing a red herring with Odin's vote for Majic, I'll vote majic to move the game along. I agree with a lot of this, I really have no info, just basing votes on what I'm seeing in the thread. Based on the above, seems you're leaning to vote timpig even though you're currently voting Majic. Odin not sharing info or explaining the majic vote is worrisome, but being so early maybe he didn't want to out himself? idk, seems to me he should have maybe in hopes of taking a maf with him like majic said. I have no strong feeling one way or another. Druce does seem a bit vague and suspect, and he and Tim both went with my majic reasoning very quickly. Should we flip to Tim? |
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Post by Heebs on Sept 6, 2017 9:12:50 GMT -6
I don't think we should flip as I think Majic's role will tell us a lot about everyone else and their motives.
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Post by Heebs on Sept 6, 2017 9:14:16 GMT -6
I don't think we should flip as I think Majic's role will tell us a lot about everyone else and their motives. I think this is especially true because Odin didn't vote for TimPig. That gives me a hope that Majic is indeed mafia and TimPig is cleared. I still go back to the fact that if I'm Odin, and I'm on the block to be lynched, the only way I DON'T vote for TimPig is if I know he's clear. So hopefully Majic is indeed mafia and we can clear TimPig and Druce. |
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Post by Majic on Sept 6, 2017 9:15:27 GMT -6
Here are my stream of conscious thoughts for what they are worth. Odin's vote for Majic is a one-off vote. If he had solid intel, he would have been more insistent. It's surprising that Odin didn't vote for Timpig despite TimPig being the only person that could save Odin from being lynched. Maybe Odin knew something. If we have an investigative role left (we should), I'd suggest we clear TimPig tonight. Pete's switch to vote for TimPig to save Odin looks good for Pete. We know Odin was a power civ and not mafia. We don't know whether TimPig is mafia or not. If TimPig's investigation turns up mafia, I've got a good feeling about Pete. Skrouse has been skating by so far without really contributing a lot. He's been active, which is nice, but he seems to be band wagoning on other people's votes/opinions. That's pretty telling when all of our lynches so far have been townies. If Majic is in fact town, I'm very suspicious at this point of Skrouse. Timpig is someone I've been suspicious of for a while. If Majic turns up mafia I think that clears him. If not, I hope we have intel on him. Bankz has been quiet. Usually that'd be to the benefit of the town because Bankz is a terrible player. It is the middle of the work week and he manages a lunch shop - so I'll give him a pass. At least he's voting, which is better than normal. Delap - I have a good feeling about Delap. He's been helpful and had some good questions/insights. I'm not sure what to make of Druce. Similar to TimPig, I think Majic being mafia helps us clear him and then we've got a civ coalition to go with. If Majic is not mafia, I'm afraid our goose is cooked as it's a Druce/Tim/Skrouse mafia or Druce/Tim/Bankz mafia. At this point, I think we need to find out Majic's role to get better intel, so despite my feeling that we're chasing a red herring with Odin's vote for Majic, I'll vote majic to move the game along. I agree with a lot of this, I really have no info, just basing votes on what I'm seeing in the thread. Based on the above, seems you're leaning to vote timpig even though you're currently voting Majic. Odin not sharing info or explaining the majic vote is worrisome, but being so early maybe he didn't want to out himself? idk, seems to me he should have maybe in hopes of taking a maf with him like majic said. I have no strong feeling one way or another. Druce does seem a bit vague and suspect, and he and Tim both went with my majic reasoning very quickly. Should we flip to Tim? yea but "not outing himself" only makes sense when he isnt about to get killed. again taking a 1 for 1 is better than just losing our investigator out of self preservation i will vote timpigthe rest of you guys better hope to god that Druce is not Mafia, because i know im not. and if he is then you guys are screwed royally |
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 9:15:50 GMT -6
I don't think we should flip as I think Majic's role will tell us a lot about everyone else and their motives. I think this is especially true because Odin didn't vote for TimPig. That gives me a hope that Majic is indeed mafia and TimPig is cleared. I still go back to the fact that if I'm Odin, and I'm on the block to be lynched, the only way I DON'T vote for TimPig is if I know he's clear. So hopefully Majic is indeed mafia and we can clear TimPig and Druce. Very good point |
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Post by Druce on Sept 6, 2017 9:20:16 GMT -6
notice how magic said "you guys" are screwed royally. not "we're"
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 9:24:34 GMT -6
notice how magic said "you guys" are screwed royally. not "we're" was noted |
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Post by skrouse on Sept 6, 2017 9:24:55 GMT -6
assuming he meant remaining town, not town in general
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