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Post by Heebs on Sept 28, 2017 11:31:10 GMT -6
what is interesting is if the mafia did die on me and they do not have a strongman, they would be pushing to kill me during the day. exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect If 20s is mafia, he would know whether SPL was their target. He wouldn't get SPL to come out as night immune and a town asset BEFORE trying to get him lynched. He'd just try to get him lynched to get rid of the night immune player. |
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Post by SPL on Sept 28, 2017 11:33:17 GMT -6
exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect Read my posts. I haven't once accused SPL of lying. i am presenting all possible scenarios and I commented about the tough part of having someone claim granny in that we cannot verify their claim (which makes it a great role for an evil role to hide behind). You infered I was by saying a play would be to kill me during the day. My point is that if the mafia do not have a strongman, this would be their play during the day since they cannot kill me at night. If we do have a mass murder and not an arsonist, it is possible that they hit someone night immune on night 1 as well. Or mafia hit someone night immune and mass murder hit odin. Either way, my role is the Granny. I came out because I thought it was very possible that the mafia knew my role and I did not want to see a town die on me. |
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Post by Druce on Sept 28, 2017 11:35:26 GMT -6
exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect If 20s is mafia, he would know whether SPL was their target. He wouldn't get SPL to come out as night immune and a town asset BEFORE trying to get him lynched. He'd just try to get him lynched to get rid of the night immune player. im not talking specifically about 20s, im saying 20s asked him to come forward, completely reasonable, and then others started throwing stones once he did |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 28, 2017 11:36:54 GMT -6
TL:DR all these most recent posts but unless I'm mistaken this is what played out based on what soup said
Night 1: Mass murderer kills Odin and mafia hit is somehow blocked OR Odin tries to kill Granny, dies
Night 2: Mass murderer kills either skrouse or BK, mafia kills either skrouse or bk
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 28, 2017 11:37:57 GMT -6
Read my posts. I haven't once accused SPL of lying. i am presenting all possible scenarios and I commented about the tough part of having someone claim granny in that we cannot verify their claim (which makes it a great role for an evil role to hide behind). You infered I was by saying a play would be to kill me during the day. My point is that if the mafia do not have a strongman, this would be their play during the day since they cannot kill me at night. If we do have a mass murder and not an arsonist, it is possible that they hit someone night immune on night 1 as well. Or mafia hit someone night immune and mass murder hit odin. Either way, my role is the Granny. I came out because I thought it was very possible that the mafia knew my role and I did not want to see a town die on me. Or the mafia play would be to do absolutely nothing to you since they don't necessarily have to kill you yet |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:37:58 GMT -6
Read my posts. I haven't once accused SPL of lying. i am presenting all possible scenarios and I commented about the tough part of having someone claim granny in that we cannot verify their claim (which makes it a great role for an evil role to hide behind). You infered I was by saying a play would be to kill me during the day. My point is that if the mafia do not have a strongman, this would be their play during the day since they cannot kill me at night. If we do have a mass murder and not an arsonist, it is possible that they hit someone night immune on night 1 as well. Or mafia hit someone night immune and mass murder hit odin. Either way, my role is the Granny. I came out because I thought it was very possible that the mafia knew my role and I did not want to see a town die on me. Saying a play could be to kill you during the day isn't implying you are lying - it is saying that is the only way we can find out your true role with certainty and the only way we can get rid of you IF you are the mass murderer or a mafioso hiding behind granny. I said its something to consider and it might be worth it because it's much more dangerous to let a mass murderer wander the town than it is to kill our granny who is an unverifiable civ with no chance to kill the mafia or neutral evil at this point. That is very different from claiming you are lying. I trust you can see the difference. |
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 11:37:59 GMT -6
I dont really get why so many of you are convinced that we have a Mass Murderer seems most likely that on the first night they had Odin do the hit and either attacked the Veteran or the Granny Veteran/sniper/vigilante are the only ones that would be told they were killed with bullets. Serial killer knives Arsonist fire Mass murderer/granny/mafia nothing None of the deaths have had any reasons posted with them. overlooked that my bad trying to keep up with everything |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:38:43 GMT -6
TL:DR all these most recent posts but unless I'm mistaken this is what played out based on what soup said Night 1: Mass murderer kills Odin and mafia hit is somehow blocked OR Odin tries to kill Granny, dies Night 2: Mass murderer kills either skrouse or BK, mafia kills either skrouse or bk In the OR of your night 1 the mass murderer would also have to have been blocked on Night 1. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 28, 2017 12:04:39 GMT -6
Yet to vote - Canes, Skrouse, Timpig, Delap, Druce, GBG, Majic, Fecta, JHB, Heebs, Spl, 20s, Pete
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 12:06:05 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it's time for another no vote, or if we should start trying to pick off mafia. We still have our town investigative role, but if we lose two town again we will start to fall behind the eight ball.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Sept 28, 2017 12:08:40 GMT -6
TL:DR all these most recent posts but unless I'm mistaken this is what played out based on what soup said Night 1: Mass murderer kills Odin and mafia hit is somehow blocked OR Odin tries to kill Granny, dies Night 2: Mass murderer kills either skrouse or BK, mafia kills either skrouse or bk In the OR of your night 1 the mass murderer would also have to have been blocked on Night 1. possible reasons a night one kill failed 1. escort/prostitute. either the escort roll blocked a mafia or the prostitute role blocked the MM 2. survivor/bulletproof civ. the survivor went on alert and caught a bullet from the mafia possible 3. mafia tried to kill the MM. it doesn't specifically say the MM is night immune but he has been in prior games so I put this as a possible scenario until soup can confirm. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 12:10:36 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it's time for another no vote, or if we should start trying to pick off mafia. We still have our town investigative role, but if we lose two town again we will start to fall behind the eight ball. I think we need to start voting for people, especially with the potential of 2 civs dying each night |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Sept 28, 2017 12:11:13 GMT -6
In the OR of your night 1 the mass murderer would also have to have been blocked on Night 1. possible reasons a night one kill failed 1. escort/prostitute. either the escort roll blocked a mafia or the prostitute role blocked the MM 2. survivor/bulletproof civ. the survivor went on alert and caught a bullet from the mafia possible 3. mafia tried to kill the MM. it doesn't specifically say the MM is night immune but he has been in prior games so I put this as a possible scenario until soup can confirm. according to the setup, survivor isn't possible. so if a bulletproof civ went on alert night one and stopped a kill, announce yourself now |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Sept 28, 2017 12:13:28 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it's time for another no vote, or if we should start trying to pick off mafia. We still have our town investigative role, but if we lose two town again we will start to fall behind the eight ball. I think we have to vote someone off, but Im having a hard time of figuring out who that person should be. This is what usually happens to me when there are a thousand roles and I struggle to understand all the different outcomes. |
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 12:14:02 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it's time for another no vote, or if we should start trying to pick off mafia. We still have our town investigative role, but if we lose two town again we will start to fall behind the eight ball. We didn't really lose two town, though. The neutral isn't necessarily a great thing. The ratio is actually slightly better than it was yesterday (just like Day 2 was slightly better than Day 1). Unless we have solid information from investigators, we are still just guessing at this point. Not sure if that really helps. |
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 12:14:40 GMT -6
wait... check that... slightly worse today, but still better than Day 1.
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Post by Druce on Sept 28, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -6
he's added literally nothing so i'll start by tossing a vote out for rv
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 12:17:16 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it's time for another no vote, or if we should start trying to pick off mafia. We still have our town investigative role, but if we lose two town again we will start to fall behind the eight ball. We didn't really lose two town, though. The neutral isn't necessarily a great thing. The ratio is actually slightly better than it was yesterday (just like Day 2 was slightly better than Day 1). Unless we have solid information from investigators, we are still just guessing at this point. Not sure if that really helps. True, but he could have come back and taken the role of the investigator or a power civ role; so it's indirectly losing a townie. We know he didn't jump at the first chance to take over a mafia role. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 12:18:24 GMT -6
Still no indications anyone was silenced, so I think we can rule that role out for the mafia
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 12:22:29 GMT -6
TimPig has yet to post today
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 12:23:08 GMT -6
Souper Troopers are mafia roles unique or could they get 2+ of one role? (I know earlier you said there could only be one Godfather, wondering about the others)
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Sept 28, 2017 12:24:48 GMT -6
TimPig has yet to post today He was on a red eye last night to Chicago and is there for a wedding. He will be pretty inactive. |
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 12:26:54 GMT -6
TimPig has yet to post today He was on a red eye last night to Chicago and is there for a wedding. He will be pretty inactive. between this and RV, even if they are town it makes it hard to keep them around "numbers" are important if those numbers are actually beneficial to the town long term |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 12:27:01 GMT -6
TimPig has yet to post today He was on a red eye last night to Chicago and is there for a wedding. He will be pretty inactive. Yeah i saw the post saying he was getting on the flight. Just trying to keep track of who we have and haven't heard from. No one was silenced yesterday, but today we haven't heard from him or RV |
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Post by Druce on Sept 28, 2017 12:27:42 GMT -6
He was on a red eye last night to Chicago and is there for a wedding. He will be pretty inactive. between this and RV, even if they are town it makes it hard to keep them around "numbers" are important if those numbers are actually beneficial to the town long term thats the reasoning for my rv vote |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Sept 28, 2017 12:28:54 GMT -6
I can get behind RV
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 12:29:50 GMT -6
between this and RV, even if they are town it makes it hard to keep them around "numbers" are important if those numbers are actually beneficial to the town long term thats the reasoning for my rv vote to which i agree with.. highly doubtful Mafia would silence him given his overall lack of participation if we are going to take a shot at someone today it might as well be someone that isnt participating so worst case, if its a town member at least we arent losing an asset |
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 12:30:21 GMT -6
going no execution again for now. Could be pretty easily swayed to go with rv/tim on the account of their lack of participation. Will obviously make changes based on any solid information from an investigator/investigative town source.
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 12:33:41 GMT -6
going no execution again for now. Could be pretty easily swayed to go with rv/tim on the account of their lack of participation. Will obviously make changes based on any solid information from an investigator/investigative town source. the only thing i will say in Tims favor is that when he actually plays he is active and could be a benefit, whether he will have a chance to help us in the next day i have no idea i have honestly never really seen RV play and since he is not active at all it makes him an easy target to take a guess at |
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Post by TimPig on Sept 28, 2017 12:35:30 GMT -6
Sorry fellas. Took the red eye to Chicago so my schedule has been all messed up. I am not silenced though.
Going to vote RV for lack of participation though I know I’m guilty of the same thing.
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