Post by RWisoursavior on Aug 13, 2014 19:35:50 GMT -6
A Look At The Drafts Over Time
Thought this would be a cool idea, nostalgia for the 2.0ers, and a little bit of a history lesson for the new guys. I wasn't around for the first 8 or so years keep that in mind but I did my best. There are probably going to be some mistakes this is almost entirely off memory, I'd appreciate simple corrections and I'll fix the article.
#1 Picks
I wanted to take a look first at how the number picks changed or didn't change.
1990) Spurs - David Robinson C 7'1'' 235 25 A C- C A+ A- A
1991) Bullets - Larry Johnson PF 6'6'' 250 22 B C+ C C B A
1992) Bullets - Alonzo Mourning C 6'10'' 240 22 B C D+ B+ B A
1993) Spurs - Shaquille O'Neal C 7'1'' 325 21 B+ D D+ B+ B+ A
1994) Pistons - Grant Hill SF 6'8'' 225 21 B- C+ B- B C+ A
1995) Heat (from Bucks) - Joe Smith PF 6'10'' 225 19 B C C- B- B- A
1996) Bucks (from Celtics) - Allen Iverson PG 6'0'' 167 20 B B- C+ B D+ A
1997) Grizzlies - Tim Duncan C 6'11'' 249 21 B D+ D+ A- B+ A
1998) Rockets - Dirk Nowitzki PF 7'0'' 235 20 B- B C C C+ A
1999) Bulls - Vince Carter SG 6'5'' 220 22 B+ C+ C+ C+ C A
2000) Hornets (from Kings) - Kenyon Martin PF 6'9'' 230 22 B- D+ C- B B- A
2001) Nets (from Kings) - Sim Poe SF 6'6'' 205 18 B C+ C B C+ A
2002) Hawks - Dwyane Wade SG 6'4'' 210 20 B C C+ B- C+ A
2003) Pistons - Darko Milicic PF 7'0'' 245 18 B- C+ C+ B- C+ A
2004) Trailblazers - Chris Bosh PF 6'10'' 215 20 B- B- D+ B- B- A
The first thing that jumps out is the 2004 draft. Duc took Bosh over Lebron James never take anyone over Lebron James. At the time to be fair to duc it wasn't a crazy pick Lebron did have very mediocre starting grades. After Kenyon years 2001-2004 a legend was taken with 1.1. Some other legends include Dirk, Vince, Shaq, David Robinson, and Joe Smith. AI suffered from being a 6'0 SG awful TO's. That 2000 draft woof, as bad as the real life draft.
Creation Draft
Round 1
1.01 - Spurs - David Robinson C 7'1'' 235 25 A C- C A+ A- A
1.02 - Nets - Michael Jordan SG 6'6'' 195 27 A B- B+ A+ C D
1.03 - Pacers - Hakeem Olajuwon C 7'0'' 250 27 A- C- C A+ A B
1.04 - Grizzlies - Shawn Kemp PF 6'10'' 245 20 A- C- C A- B A
1.05 - Timberwolves - Rony Seikaly C 6'11'' 252 25 A- D+ C- A- A- B
1.06 - Magic - Reggie Miller SG 6'7'' 190 25 B A- B- B D+ A
1.07 - Rockets - Karl Malone PF 6'9'' 254 27 A C- C A- B+ B
1.08 - Trailblazers - Clyde Drexler SF 6'7'' 222 28 B+ B B+ A C+ C
1.09 - Bulls - Tim Hardaway PG 6'0'' 195 24 C+ A- A+ A C- C
1.10 - Bulls (from Jazz) - Derrick Coleman C 6'10'' 258 23 A- C C A- B+ B
1.11 - Supersonics - Gary Payton PG 6'4'' 190 22 C C- A- A- C- A
1.12 - Celtics - Charles Barkley PF 6'6'' 252 27 A C+ C+ B B B
1.13 - Heat - Patrick Ewing C 7'0'' 240 28 A C- C A+ B C
1.14 - Kings - Dominique Wilkins SF 6'8'' 215 30 A- B+ C+ A B C
1.15 - Clippers - John Stockton PG 6'1'' 175 28 C B+ A+ A D C
1.16 - Pistons - Larry Bird SF 6'9'' 220 33 B A- B+ A+ C+ D
1.17 - Cavaliers - Vlade Divac C 7'1'' 260 22 B C- C- A B+ A
1.18 - Hawks - Magic Johnson PG 6'9'' 215 31 B B+ A+ A- C C
1.19 - Raptors - Michael Adams PG 5'11'' 175 27 B+ B+ A+ A C- C
1.20 - 76ers - Terry Porter PG 6'3'' 195 27 C A- A A C- C
1.21 - Knicks - Pervis Ellison PF 6'10'' 225 23 B C- C- A- B+ B
1.22 - Mavericks - Benoit Benjamin C 7'0'' 265 25 B+ C- C- A+ A- D
1.23 - Hornets - Kevin Johnson PG 6'1'' 180 24 B+ C A+ A C- C
1.24 - Nets (from Warriors) - Chris Mullin SF 6'7'' 220 27 B+ B C+ A C C
1.25 - Suns - Lionel Simmons SF 6'7'' 210 21 B+ C- C+ A B- B
1.26 - Lakers - Brad Daugherty C 7'0'' 263 25 A- C- C B B C
1.27 - Lakers (from Bucks) - Mark Price PG 6'0'' 175 26 C A- B+ A D+ D
1.28 - Nuggets - Scottie Pippen SF 6'7'' 225 25 B C+ B+ A+ C+ C
1.29 - Wizards - Glen Rice SF 6'8'' 220 23 B- B+ C B+ C C
Round 2
2.01 - Wizards - Drazen Petrovic SG 6'5'' 208 26 B- B+ C B- C- B
2.02 - Nuggets - Mookie Blaylock PG 6'1'' 185 23 B- C A- A+ D+ C
2.03 - Bucks - Clifford Robinson PF 6'10'' 225 23 B+ C- C B+ C A
2.04 - Lakers - Mitch Richmond SG 6'5'' 215 25 B+ B C A- C C
2.05 - Suns - Sherman Douglas PG 6'1'' 180 24 B+ C- A A- D+ B
2.06 - Bucks (from Warriors) - Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf PG 6'1'' 168 21 B- C+ B- B- D+ A
2.07 - Hornets - Robert Parish C 7'0'' 235 37 B+ C- D+ A A- B
2.08 - Mavericks - Jerome Lane SF 6'6'' 232 23 B- D- C B+ A- B
2.09 - Knicks - Chris Morris SF 6'8'' 220 24 C+ C+ C A+ C+ B
2.10 - 76ers - Hersey Hawkins PG 6'3'' 190 24 C+ A- C+ A+ C- C
2.11 - Raptors - Derek Harper SG 6'4'' 203 29 B- B A- B+ D+ C
2.12 - Hawks - Ron Harper SG 6'6'' 205 26 B B- C A- C- C
2.13 - Cavaliers - Ricky Pierce SG 6'4'' 215 31 B B+ C+ C D+ B
2.14 - Pistons - Chris Dudley PF 6'11'' 235 25 B- D D A A- C
2.15 - Trailblazers (from Clippers) - Kenny Smith PG 6'3'' 170 25 C+ B A- B+ D B
2.16 - Kings - Nick Anderson SG 6'6'' 205 22 B B- C A- C D
2.17 - Heat - Pooh Richardson PG 6'1'' 180 24 B- C A+ A- D+ D
2.18 - Celtics - Jeff Hornacek PG 6'4'' 190 27 C A- A- A- C- C
2.19 - Supersonics - Reggie Williams SG 6'7'' 195 26 C+ B+ C A- C C
2.20 - Nuggets (from Jazz) - Blair Rasmussen C 7'0'' 250 27 B- C- D+ A B+ B
2.21 - Jazz (from Bulls) - Felton Spencer C 7'0'' 265 22 C+ C- D A- A- C
2.22 - Trailblazers - Mark West PF 6'10'' 246 29 B C- D A- B B
2.23 - Hawks (from Rockets) - Isiah Thomas PG 6'1'' 185 29 B- C+ A- A- D+ C
2.24 - Magic - Alvin Robertson PG 6'4'' 190 28 B- C+ A- A C C
2.25 - Timberwolves - Charles Smith PF 6'10'' 244 25 A- C- C- A- C+ C
2.26 - Grizzlies - Scott Skiles PG 6'1'' 185 26 C A- A B- C- C
2.27 - Pacers - Kevin McHale PF 6'10'' 210 32 A- C+ C A- C+ C
2.28 - Warriors (from Nets) - Reggie Lewis SG 6'7'' 195 24 B+ C C A- C C
2.29 - Spurs - Mark Jackson PG 6'3'' 192 25 C+ C A- A- C- C
Round 3
3.01 - Hawks (from Spurs) - Larry Nance PF 6'10'' 235 31 A- C- C A C+ D
3.02 - Nets - Moses Malone C 6'10'' 255 35 B C D+ A- A- D
3.03 - Pacers - Micheal Williams PG 6'2'' 175 24 B- C B+ A C- C
3.04 - Grizzlies - Tyrone Hill PF 6'9'' 243 22 B- D+ D- B- B+ C
3.05 - Timberwolves - Dennis Rodman SF 6'8'' 210 29 C+ C- C- B A C
3.06 - Magic - Alton Lister C 7'0'' 240 32 B- D+ C- A- B+ D
3.07 - Rockets - Rik Smits C 7'4'' 265 24 B- C- C- A- C+ B
3.08 - Clippers (from Trailblazers) - Anthony Cook PF 6'9'' 215 23 C+ D+ D A- B B
3.09 - Kings (via Jazz from Bulls) - Muggsy Bogues PG 5'3'' 140 25 C C- A+ A- D+ B
3.10 - Kings (from Jazz) - Will Perdue C 7'0'' 240 25 C+ C- D A- A- C
3.11 - Wizards (from Supersonics) - Arvydas Sabonis C 7'3'' 295 25 B- C C B C+ A
3.12 - Celtics - Wayman Tisdale C 6'9'' 260 26 B+ C- C- B+ B- C
3.13 - Heat - Jerome Kersey SF 6'7'' 222 28 B C- C+ A C+ C
3.14 - Kings - Horace Grant PF 6'10'' 235 25 B C- C B+ B- D
3.15 - Clippers - Dan Majerle SF 6'6'' 220 25 C+ C+ C+ A C+ D
3.16 - Pistons - Jay Humphries PG 6'3'' 185 28 C B+ A B+ D+ D
3.17 - Cavaliers - Rod Strickland PG 6'3'' 185 24 C+ C A A C- B
3.18 - Hornets (from Rockets via Hawks) - Jerry Reynolds SF 6'8'' 208 27 B C C A+ C C
3.19 - Raptors - Tyrone Corbin SF 6'6'' 222 27 B C- C+ A C C
3.20 - 76ers - Antoine Carr PF 6'9'' 255 29 A- C- C B- C B
3.21 - Knicks - Kevin Willis C 7'0'' 240 28 B C- C- B- B+ C
3.22 - Mavericks - Spud Webb PG 5'7'' 135 27 C B A- A- D+ D
3.23 - Rockets (from Hornets) - Scott Brooks PG 5'11'' 165 25 C B B- B+ D+ B
3.24 - Bulls (from Warriors) - Brian Shaw SG 6'6'' 190 24 C+ C A- B+ C B
3.25 - Suns - Andrew Lang C 6'11'' 250 24 C+ C- D- A- B B
3.26 - Suns (via Bucks from Lakers) - Rex Chapman SG 6'4'' 205 23 C+ B B- B- D+ B
3.27 - Bulls (via Warriors from Bucks) - Jarvis Basnight PF 6'9'' 220 25 A- C C B+ C+ C
3.28 - Jazz (from Nuggets) - LaSalle Thompson C 6'10'' 253 29 C+ C- C- A- B B
3.29 - Bulls (via Sonics from Wizards) - Ken Norman SF 6'8'' 215 26 B+ C- C A- C+ D
Lottos
1991
1. Bullets - Larry Johnson PF 6'6'' 250 22 B C+ C C B A
2. Warriors - Kenny Anderson PG 6'0'' 168 20 B- C+ B C+ C- A
3. Supersonics - Dikembe Mutombo C 24 7'2'' 245 C+ D+ D+ A- B B
4. Bucks - Doug Smith PF 21 6'10'' 220 B- C C C+ B- A
5. Grizzlies - Steve Smith SG 22 6'7'' 200 B- B C+ C C B
6. Hornets - Billy Owens SF 22 6'8'' 220 B C C C+ C+ A
7. Magic - Luc Longley C 7'2'' 265 22 C+ C- C- B B- B
8. Jazz (from Rockets) - Chris Gatling PF 6'10'' 220 24 B C- C- C+ B B
9. Raptors - Dale Davis PF 6'11'' 230 22 C+ D+ D+ B- B B
10. Celtics - Toni Kukoc SF 6'10'' 192 22 B- C+ C C+ C B
11. Mavericks - Terrell Brandon PG 5'11'' 180 21 C+ C+ B- C D+ A
12. Supersonics (from Jazz) - Stacey Augmon SF 6'6'' 205 22 C+ C C B C+ A
13. Knicks - Greg Anthony PG 6'0'' 176 23 C C B B D+ B
I'm going to struggle with the early drafts. Thanks to Ved for the info. This was a largely underwhelming draft. Mutombo never developed into a scoring threat not what you want with 1.4. Steve Smith ended up being very average, although he did turn into a steal MLE for former Jazz GM Ohhaitur. Kenny Anderson started out hot and died.
1992
1. Bullets - Alonzo Mourning C 6'10'' 240 22 B C D+ B+ B A
2. Bucks - Chris Webber PF 6'9'' 245 19 B- D C+ C+ B- A
3. Supersonics - Jamal Mashburn SF 6'8'' 240 19 B C+ C C C+ A
4. Mavericks - Jimmy Jackson SG 6'6'' 220 21 B C+ C C+ C A
5. Warriors - Christian Laettner PF 6'11'' 235 22 B C+ C- C+ B- B
6. Nuggets - Todd Day SG 6'6'' 188 22 B B- C C+ C B
7. Bulls - Anthony Peeler SG 6'4'' 208 22 B- B- C C+ C B
8. Knicks - LaPhonso Ellis PF 6'8'' 240 22 B- C- D+ C+ B B
9. Suns - P.J. Brown PF 6'11'' 255 23 C C+ C B+ C+ B
10. Celtics - Lee Mayberry PG 6'2'' 175 22 C B- B C+ C B
11. Bucks (from Lakers) - David Wesley PG 6'0'' 190 21 C C+ C+ B+ D+ B
12. Hawks (from Cavaliers) - Sasha Danilovic SG 6'5'' 200 22 C A- C C C A
13. Magic - Walt Williams SF 6'8'' 220 22 C+ B C C+ C B
Solid top end Zo was a no brainer at 1.1 those are better than Demarcus Cousins/Hakeem grades. Jimmy Jackson was a mainstay for the Mavs, seems like them and the Hawks never made a bad pick.
1993
1. Spurs - Shaquille O'Neal C 7'1'' 325 21 B+ D D+ B+ B+ A
2. Pistons - Anfernee Hardaway PG 6'7'' 195 21 B- C+ B- C+ C+ A
3. Knicks (from Magic) - Allan Houston SG 6'6'' 200 22 B- B+ C C+ C- A
4. Bulls - Isaiah Rider SG 6'5'' 215 22 B B C C C A
5. Knicks (from Suns) - Latrell Sprewell SG 6'5'' 190 22 B- C+ C B- C A
6. Knicks - Shawn Bradley C 7'6'' 235 21 C+ C- D A- C+ A
7. Suns (from Knicks) - Nick Van Exel PG 6'1'' 170 22 C B- B- C+ C A
8. Lakers - Calbert Cheaney SG 6'7'' 209 21 B- B- C B C B
9. Grizzlies - Gheorghe Muresan C 7'7'' 305 21 B D D B B- C
10. Suns (from Clippers via Knicks) - Etienne Preira PG 6'7'' 200 20 C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ B
11. Cavaliers - Vin Baker PF 6'11'' 232 21 B- D+ D+ C+ C+ A
12. Nets (from Supersonics) - Sam Cassell PG 6'3'' 185 23 B- C+ B B D+ C
13. Heat - Rodney Rogers SF 6'7'' 235 22 B C C- C+ C+ B
Shaq was very good, borderline HoFer but didn't live up to many peoples expectations of GOAT big man. GM clutch made a very good trade to get rid of Shaw the moment he took over the Spurs. Etienne Preira is a TMBSL legend put up consistent 25-30 PPG on awful Suns teams abused by GM Mops.
1994
1. Pistons - Grant Hill SF 6'8'' 225 21 B- C+ B- B C+ A
2. Nets - Glenn Robinson SF 6'7'' 225 21 B+ B- C- C C+ A
3. Clippers - Bryant Reeves C 7'0'' 275 21 B D+ D+ B- B- A
4. Celtics - Jason Kidd PG 6'4''205 21 C+ C B+ B+ C- A
5. Suns (from Bucks) - Donyell Marshall SF 6'9'' 218 21 B C C B- B- A
6. Rockets (from Lakers) - Juwan Howard PF 6'9'' 240 21 B C- C- B- C+ A
7. Lakers (from Rockets) - Jalen Rose PG 6'8'' 210 21 B- C+ B B- C B
8. Jazz (from Cavaliers) - Sharone Wright C 6'11'' 260 21 C+ D+ D+ B B- A
9. Kings - Aaron McKie SG 6'5'' 209 21 C+ B- C+ B C B
10. Magic - Carlos Rogers PF 6'11'' 220 23 B D+ D+ B- B- B
11. Nets (from Supersonics) - Gregor Fucka C 7'0'' 245 23 B C C B+ C+ C
12. Suns - Eddie Jones SG 6'6'' 190 22 B- C+ C+ B C B
13. Warriors (from Heat) - Charlie Ward PG 6'2'' 190 23 C C+ B C+ C B
Got former GM of the C's patface to give his thoughts on this draft.
Patface: Big Country was my top guy all along because of the importance of big men and the team I was trying to build. It was my first draft after blowing up the previous Celtics regime and I wanted to ensure that I got a cornerstone. Kidd was actually my second choice after seeing how important top PG's had been (see Michael Adams, Jazz). In all, I was pretty pleased with how he developed, though I felt like he never made that final leap after I'd lubed him up with a bunch of TC and article points. Key contributor on what I thought was a pretty great team.
This is also the only 4.0 and 2.0 draft. Charlie Ward in 2.0 died, I believe he was bought out then never put in the FA pool therefore deleting his file. Gone forever. Always loved Big Country.
1995
1. Heat (from Bucks) - Joe Smith PF 6'10'' 225 19 B C C- B- B- A
2. Bucks (from Heat) - Kevin Garnett PF 6'11'' 220 19 B- C C B- C+ A
3. Supersonics (from Nets) - Ray Allen SG 6'5'' 198 19 B- B C C+ C A
4. Supersonics - Rasheed Wallace PF 6'10'' 225 20 B- D+ C- B C+ A
5. Cavaliers - Michael Finley SF 6'7'' 215 22 B- C+ C+ C+ C B
6. Celtics - Jerry Stackhouse SG 6'6'' 218 20 B C+ C C+ C A
7. Timberwolves (from Trailblazers) - Kerry Kittles SG 6'5'' 179 21 B- B C+ B- C B
8. Bullets (from Magic) - Ed O'Bannon SF 6'8'' 222 22 B- B- C- C+ C+ B
9. Nuggets (via TWolves from Kings) - Antonio McDyess PF 6'9'' 220 20 C+ D+ C- B- B A
10. Hawks (via Celtics from Clippers) - Damon Stoudamire PG 5'10'' 171 21 C+ B+ B C+ D+ B
11. Hornets (from Timberwolves) - Corliss Williamson SF 6'7'' 245 21 B C- C- B C B
12. Hawks (from Pistons) - Kurt Thomas PF 6'9'' 230 22 B- C D+ B- B- B
13. Bucks (from Warriors) - George Zidek C 7'0'' 250 22 C+ D D B+ B B
This is known as the great draft. This gave birth to the two greatest players in TMBSL 2.0 history pre Nick Diaz. KG and Ray Allen would turn into absolute monsters, the edge going to KG. He was the first and possibly only player to lead the league in scoring, rebounding, and blocks. Joe Smith the surprising pick at 1.1 turned into the cornerstone of multiple championship runs for great GM 2.0 GM Jayrish. Stoudamire was very good, Stackhouse teamed up with Kittles on the Twolves to form an outstanding core.
1996
1. Bucks (from Celtics) - Allen Iverson PG 6'0'' 167 20 B B- C+ B D+ A
2. Celtics (from Bucks) - Kobe Bryant SG 6'6'' 199 17 B- C+ C+ C+ C A
3. Jazz (from Trailblazers) - Stephon Marbury PG 6'2'' 182 19 B- C+ B- B- D+ A
4. Kings - Marcus Camby PF 6'11'' 223 22 B- C- C- B+ C+ A
5. Celtics (from Clippers)- Shareef Abdur-Rahim PF 6'10'' 220 19 B C C- C+ C+ A
6. Bucks (from Bulls) - Peja Stojakovic SF 6'9'' 229 19 C+ B C- C C A
7. Suns - Steve Nash PG 6'3'' 192 22 C B+ B+ C D+ B
8. Hawks (from Grizzlies) - Antoine Walker SF 6'10'' 234 19 B- C- C+ C+ C+ A
9. Knicks (from Nets) - Jermaine O'Neal C 6'11'' 216 17 C+ C- C- C+ C+ A
10. Kings (from Raptors)- Lorenzen Wright C 6'11'' 225 20 B- D+ D+ C+ B A
11. Grizzlies (from Hawks) - Ryan Minor SF 6'7'' 220 22 B- B- C C+ C B
12. Celtics (from Nuggets) - Samaki Walker PF 6'9'' 247 20 C+ D C- B C+ A
13. Heat - Tony Delk PG 6'1'' 190 22 C+ B C+ C+ D+ B
Kobe developed slowly and people were very hesitant to give him the max after his rookie year. He would blow up immediately after signing a max with Clown IIRC and would win multiple championships with the Warriors including ripping the hearts out of the C's in game 7. Antoine Walker was another great pick by Ward. Man look at all these trades in the lotto, that's unheard of now.
1997
1. - Grizzlies - Tim Duncan C 6'11'' 249 21 B D+ D+ A- B+ A
2. - Raptors - Chauncey Billups PG 6'3'' 202 20 C B B- B C- A
3. - Pistons - Keith Van Horn SF 6'10'' 232 21 B B C C+ B- B
4. - Trailblazers - Tim Thomas SF 6'10'' 230 20 B- B- C C+ C A
5. - Kings - Antonio Daniels PG 6'4'' 195 22 B C+ B B- D B
6. - Bulls (from Cavs) - Stephen Jackson SG 6'8'' 218 19 C+ B- C+ C D+ A
7. - Suns - Keon Clark PF 6'11'' 220 22 C+ D+ C- B+ B B
8. - Cavs (from Bulls) - Tony Battie PF 6'11'' 225 21 B- D+ D+ B- B B
9. - Pistons (from Hawks) - Adonal Foyle C 6'10'' 250 22 B- D- D- B+ B- B
10. - Trailblazers (from 76ers) - Derek Anderson SG B- B- C+ B- D+ B
11. - Supersonics - Austin Croshere PF 6'9'' 235 22 C+ B C- B- C B
12. - Trailblazers (from Spurs) - Danny Fortson PF B C- D C B+ B
13. - Pacers - Johnny Taylor SF 6'9'' 220 23 B C C B- B- B
Chauncey would become the PG to some of the great Bulls teams headlined by Nick Diaz. Great defender. This draft was largely underwhelming. Tim Duncan never lived up to the 1.1 status.
1998
1. Rockets - Dirk Nowitzki PF 7'0'' 235 20 B- B C C C+ A
2. Knicks - Paul Pierce SF 6'7'' 220 20 B C+ C- B- C A
3. Hornets - Michael Olowokandi C 7'1'' 265 23 B D- C- B- B A
4. 76ers - Mike Bibby PG 6'2'' 180 20 C+ B- B B- D+ A
5. Bulls - Rashard Lewis SF 6'10'' 215 18 C+ B- C- C+ C A
6. Raptors (from Grizzlies) - Richard Hamilton SG 6'6'' 185 20 B- B C B- C- B
7. Trailblazers - Raef LaFrentz C 6'11'' 240 22 B C+ D+ B- B B
8. Warriors - Brian Skinner PF 6'9'' 255 22 C+ C D+ B+ B+ B
9. Grizzlies (from Raptors) - Larry Hughes SG 6'5'' 184 19 B C- C+ C+ C- A
10. Cavaliers - Robert Traylor PF 6'8'' 284 21 B D+ D+ C+ B- A
11. Kings - Bonzi Wells SG 6'5'' 210 21 B- C C C+ C A
12. Lakers - Jason Williams PG 6'1'' 190 22 C B- B- C+ D+ A
13. Pacers - Bruno Sundov C 7'2'' 220 18 C+ C D+ B- B- A
Paul Pierce and Dirk are 2.0 greats. Dirk would turn into a stellar SF and Paul Pierce was a Dr.J/Iceman/Michael Adams caliber SF. Raef LaFrentz was decent. Bibby was the PG for future fantastic 76er teams.
1999
1. Bulls - Vince Carter SG 6'5'' 220 22 B+ C+ C+ C+ C A
2. 76ers - Elton Brand PF 6'8'' 275 20 B C- D+ B- B A
3. Hornets - Antawn Jamison PF 6'8'' 225 22 B C C C+ B A
4. Rockets - Steve Francis PG 6'2'' 195 22 B- C+ B- B C- A
5. Timberwolves - Tracy McGrady SF 6'7'' 205 20 B C C+ C+ C+ A
6. Spurs - Shawn Marion SF 6'6'' 220 21 B- C- C B B- A
7. Timberwolves (from Nuggets) - Andre Miller PG 6'2'' 200 23 B- C- B B- C- B
8. Pacers - Lamar Odom PF 6'10'' 220 19 B C- C+ C+ B- A
9. Supersonics (from Warriors) - Baron Davis PG 6'2'' 210 20 B- C- B- C+ C- A
10. Supersonics - Andrei Kirilenko SF 6'9'' 205 18 C+ C C C+ C+ A
11. Raptors - Jonathan Bender SF 6'11'' 210 18 B- C C C+ C A
12. Bulls (from 76ers via Cavaliers) Dimitris Diamantidis PG 6'6'' 220 18 C B- B B+ C A
13. Timberwolves (from Knicks) - Chris Andersen C 6'10'' 228 23 C+ D+ C- B+ B B
Jonathan Bender, pretty sure 4 different GM's traded for him hoping he'd develop into a Larry Kennon. Dude was always a +1 away from being good and kept his A potential. Vince Carter was a stud. Birdman would become a very good big man for the great T-wolves teams. Tmac going 5 is crazy, can't believe he fell that far was a mainstay with the Wolves. Marion always had inflated grades, a 100 jump guy who consistently underachieved.
2000
1. Hornets (from Kings) - Kenyon Martin PF 6'9'' 230 22 B- D+ C- B B- A
2. Timberwolves - Chris Mihm C 7'0'' 262 20 B C- D B- B B
3. 76ers - Joe Johnson SG 6'8'' 225 19 B- C+ C+ C+ C A
4. Hornets (from Warriors) - Jamal Crawford SG 6'6'' 190 20 B- C+ B- C D A
5. Raptors - Zach Randolph PF 6'8'' 260 18 B- D+ D+ C B- A
6. Lakers - Ron Artest SF 6'6'' 244 20 C+ C C B+ C A
7. Celtics (from Spurs) - Troy Murphy PF 6'11'' 245 20 B- B- D C+ B B
8. Knicks (from Pacers) - Mike Miller SF 6'8'' 215 20 B- C+ C+ C+ C A
9. Nets - FORFEIT
10. Suns - Darius Miles SF 6'9'' 212 18 B- C C+ C+ C A
11. Pistons - Hedo Turkoglu SF 6'8'' 200 21 C+ B C+ C C A
12. Grizzlies - (via 76ers from Bulls) - Marcus Fizer PF 6'8'' 240 21 B C- D+ B- C A
13. Nets (from Hornets) - Joel Pryzbilla C 7'0'' 250 20 C+ D- D+ B+ C+ A
Irush was at a concert for what I believe is the only forfeited lotto pick, what a scene that was. Was for the best though, this draft sucked. I believe Michael Redd went 22 IIRC him and Mihm were the only players worth a shit. Don't get Buster started on how great his first pick as the GM of the Wolves was with taking Chris Mihm.
2001
1. Nets (from Kings) - Sim Poe SF 6'6'' 205 18 B C+ C B C+ A
2. Knicks (from Grizzlies) - Yao Ming C 7'6'' 295 20 B C+ D B C+ A
3. Raptors - Corey Maggette SF 6'6'' 218 21 B C+ C C+ C+ A
4. Kings (from Nets) - Kwame Brown PF 6'11'' 250 19 B- C C+ C+ B- A
5. Celts (from Trailblazers) - Eddy Curry C 6'11'' 285 18 B D+ D C+ C+ A
6. Kings (from Nets via Suns) - Shane Battier SF 6'9'' 225 22 C+ B C A- C+ C
7. Clippers - Gilbert Arenas SG 6'3'' 199 19 B- B C+ C+ D+ B
8. Grizzlies (from Knicks) - Joseph Forte SG 6'4'' 185 20 C+ B B- C+ C- B
9. Bullets (from Cavaliers) - Jason Richardson SG 6'6'' 220 20 B C C+ C+ C A
10. Bullets - Stromile Swift PF 6'9'' 225 21 B D+ C- B- C+ A
11. Nets (from King via Jazz) - Samuel Dalembert C 6'11'' 232 20 C D D+ B+ C+ A
12. Pistons (from Hornets) - Richard Jefferson SF 6'7'' 222 21 B- C C B C A
13. 76ers - Vladimir Radmanovic SF 6'10'' 227 20 C+ B C+ C C A
This was my first draft. Never realized Shane Battier a guy who put up 25/8 with great defense went right after constant under achiever Eddy Curry. Kwame turned into a bigger bust than Curry. Stromile was another big bust, always thought he went higher. The greatest player in TMBSL history Sim Poe/Nick Diaz went 1.1. He could do everything with A+ defense. I'm sure Ian will post the screenshot of his ludicrous grades. Yao Ming was the last piece to the Knicks dynasty of Scoonie Penn/Paul Pierce/Yao Ming. Ming was a consistent 25/13/3 guy. Maggette always had great grades but just never shot enough.
2002
1. Hawks - Dwyane Wade SG 6'4'' 210 20 B C C+ B- C+ A
2. Cavaliers - Jay Williams PG 6'2'' 195 20 B- B- B- B- D+ A
3. Grizzlies - Pau Gasol SF 7'1'' 220 20 B C+ C B- B- A
4. Grizzlies (from Trailblazers) - Tyson Chandler PF 7'1'' 230 19 B- D+ C- B B- A
5. Spurs (from Suns) - Caron Butler SF 6'7'' 235 22 B- C+ C B- C+ A
6. Raptors - Amare Stoudemire PF 6'9'' 233 19 B C C- C+ C+ A
7. Knicks (from Celtics via Nuggets) - Drew Gooden PF 6'10'' 230 20 B C D+ C+ B A
8. Bullets - Mike Dunleavy Jr. SF 6'9'' 221 21 B- B C+ C+ C A
9. Celtics (from Spurs) - Tayshaun Prince SF 6'9'' 215 22 B- C+ C B C B
10. Bucks - Carlos Boozer PF 6'9'' 280 21 B C D+ C+ B- B
11. Bucks (from Lakers) - DaJuan Wagner PG 6'2'' 200 19 B C C+ C D A
12. Spurs (from Celtics via Knicks via Nets) - Nenad Kristic C 6'11'' 210 18 B- C+ D+ C C A
13. Bucks (from Celtics via Pacers) - Chris Wilcox PF 6'10'' 220 19 B- D C- C+ B- A
Great top end to this draft. Wade was a god turned into one of the better PG's in TMBSL. Was also apart of one of the more high profile trades in TMBSL history if I remember correctly it was Lebron on the Magic for Wade on the Hawks. Amare was dump's best pick ever, would wither away on those Raptor teams.
2003
1. Pistons - Darko Milicic PF 7'0'' 245 18 B- C+ C+ B- C+ A
2. Bucks - Ben Gordon SG 6'2'' 192 20 B- B C+ C+ C- A
3. Trailblazers - Nene PF 6'10'' 260 20 B D+ C B- C+ A
4. Cavaliers - Carmelo Anthony SF 6'8'' 220 19 B C+ C C B- A
5. Bucks (from Jazz) - Luol Deng SF 6'8'' 217 18 B C C B- C A
6. Bulls (from Lakers) - Eddie Griffin SF 6'9'' 205 21 B C C- B B- B
7. Grizzlies - Chris Kaman C 7'0'' 255 21 B C D B B- B
8. Bucks (from Celtics via Pacers) - TJ Ford PG 5'11'' 165 20 C C+ B+ B- D+ A
9. Suns - Kendrick Perkins C 6'11'' 290 18 C+ D D B- B- A
10. Magic - David West PF 6'8'' 232 22 B- C+ C- C+ B- B
11. Pacers (from Kings) - Mickael Pietrus SG 6'6'' 200 21 B- C C- B- C A
12. Bullets - Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B B- B D+ B
13. Bullets (from 76ers) - Boris Diaw SF 6'8'' 201 21 C+ C- B- C+ C A
Great draft considering Bosh and Lebron didn't declare. Best player from this draft was Eddie Griffin one of Bankz's better picks. Ben Gordon turned into a scoring machine most people with those starting grades will. A great rule of thumb that someone once told me is that it's next to impossible to bust a SG that starts with B outside. Darko was skilled, eventually being the centerpiece in a deal involving 2.0 legend Chris Paul.
2004
1. Trailblazers - Chris Bosh PF 6'10'' 215 20 B- B- D+ B- B- A
2. Magic - LeBron James SF 6'8'' 240 19 B C B- C+ C+ A
3. Cavaliers - Emeka Okafor C 21 6'10'' 252 B D D B+ B B
4. Celtics - Devin Harris PG 6'3'' 170 21 B- C+ C+ B- D+ A
5. Pacers - Kris Humphries PF 6'9'' 240 19 B- C D C+ B- A
6. Supersonics - Ike Diogu PF 6'8'' 255 20 B C+ D+ C+ C+ B
7. Magic (from Spurs) - Josh Childress SF 6'8'' 200 21 C+ C+ C+ B- C+ A
8. Kings (from Nuggets) - JR Smith SG 6'6'' 210 19 B- B- C- C C A
9. 76ers - Pavel Podkolzin C 7'5'' 303 19 C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ A
10. Timberwolves (from Cavaliers) - Sebastian Telfair PG 5'11'' 165 19 C C+ B C+ D A
11. Hornets (from Grizzlies via Clippers) - Josh Smith SF 6'8'' 220 19 B- C- C- B- C+ A
12. Pistons - Andris Biedrins PF 6'10'' 235 18 C+ D- C- B- B- A
13. Spurs (from Nets) - Kirk Snyder SG 6'6'' 225 21 B- C C B- C A
Ike Diogu was a stretch to take at 6 by Ved but turned into a steal. Pavel was dbl's last pick in TMBSL ever, a forefather to Champ Godbolt. Andris Biedrins would turn into the perfect big man for some great 76ers teams with Beasley/Beal/Davis. Devin Harris had a big first year for the C's putting up about 20/10 but would never match that again.
Here is everyone's potential
lolwrongtmbsl.proboards.com/thread/36/bored-list-player-potentials-gave
Let the nostalgia begin!
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