RWisoursavior
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Post by RWisoursavior on Oct 23, 2014 8:54:55 GMT -6
I support the veto
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:01:24 GMT -6
I'll throw in the 3013 OKC 1st I got to offset the buyout.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 23, 2014 9:04:27 GMT -6
I think the trade sucks, but I disagree with vetoing any trades unless there is collusion. We didn't save pete or others, think wolf should have to learn by dealing with the consequences of making a shitty trade. But it is Odin's call obviously. this is a shit philosophy when it involves 27 other teams. |
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:08:01 GMT -6
I think the trade sucks, but I disagree with vetoing any trades unless there is collusion. We didn't save pete or others, think wolf should have to learn by dealing with the consequences of making a shitty trade. But it is Odin's call obviously. this is a shit philosophy when it involves 27 other teams. 27 other teams could have positioned themselves to trade for Westphal. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Oct 23, 2014 9:08:51 GMT -6
It's not a matter of being positioned to trade for the player it's a matter of elite talent moving for zero valuable assets
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 23, 2014 9:09:31 GMT -6
It's not a matter of being positioned to trade for the player it's a matter of elite talent moving for zero valuable assets |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 23, 2014 9:09:36 GMT -6
It's not a matter of being positioned to trade for the player it's a matter of elite talent moving for zero valuable assets |
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:10:24 GMT -6
It's not a matter of being positioned to trade for the player it's a matter of elite talent moving for zero valuable assets He's getting Manigault, his 1st back, and your 3013 1st rounder. All 3 have value. |
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:10:46 GMT -6
And Soup, this is rich coming from you.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Oct 23, 2014 9:11:36 GMT -6
They would have value if I needed three wipes after pooping.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Oct 23, 2014 9:12:07 GMT -6
Not to mention transferring the liability of Eddie Jones over on top of marginal assets
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Mad King
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Post by Mad King on Oct 23, 2014 9:19:46 GMT -6
Edie jones mangoilt sucks ass
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 23, 2014 9:21:33 GMT -6
And Soup, this is rich coming from you. as this trade stands you are trading manigault for westphal him getting a first is the price for buying out jones and doing you a favor and two seconds? way to throw some eye candy out to the newby |
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Post by Odin on Oct 23, 2014 9:24:19 GMT -6
The thunder pick is decent but still not enough. It would then be westphal for a late lotto.
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:26:50 GMT -6
The thunder pick is decent but still not enough. It would then be westphal for a late lotto. It is Westphal and the use of his buyout for Manigault, a lotto pick, and a decent OKC 1st. It's not Westphal for a late lotto. |
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Post by dilworth on Oct 23, 2014 9:28:09 GMT -6
the multiple 2nds proves that it's a terrible deal. That's the classic veteran GM scamming a new GM because they don't know that 2nd's are utterly worthless. We've all been there.
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Post by Odin on Oct 23, 2014 9:28:41 GMT -6
Dear god...
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IanBoyd
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Post by IanBoyd on Oct 23, 2014 9:29:22 GMT -6
you keep throwing Earl Mangigault's name around like he's suppose to be worth something.
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Post by dilworth on Oct 23, 2014 9:30:28 GMT -6
Manigault is not as valuable as you are making him to be. No jump shot and no handles at 165 lbs with a potential drop after one TC.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Oct 23, 2014 9:30:49 GMT -6
Earl Manigault could take a 2.0 Dario Saric course of steroids and be a marginal starter in this league
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:32:34 GMT -6
It's display potential. It doesn't mean anything.
Nobody batted an eye when I drafted him top 10 last year, yet he's suddenly worthless as a 17 year old after going +2 in TC?
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Post by Odin on Oct 23, 2014 9:36:09 GMT -6
I don't think he's supposed to be 17 but it's too late to change that now
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IanBoyd
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Post by IanBoyd on Oct 23, 2014 9:37:02 GMT -6
yes, you seem surprised at that's how it works.
Jack Sikma was drafted in the top 5, at no point after he was drafted was he ever worth close to a 1st again.
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:37:06 GMT -6
Yes it was listed everywhere that he was 17.
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:38:55 GMT -6
Sikma was worth a late 1st after his 3005 season.
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Post by Odin on Oct 23, 2014 9:40:49 GMT -6
Sikma was worth a late 1st after his 3005 season. No |
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 9:42:54 GMT -6
Sikma was worth a late 1st after his 3005 season. No Offensively, he was the 6th best center in the league that year. This doesn't even matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 9:55:48 GMT -6
The Pistons pick this season is late lotto at best
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Post by Odin on Oct 23, 2014 9:59:38 GMT -6
Offensively, he was the 6th best center in the league that year. This doesn't even matter. He's catfish without the ability to defend or rebound. That's not worth a first. |
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Post by ANK1990 on Oct 23, 2014 10:01:15 GMT -6
Offensively, he was the 6th best center in the league that year. This doesn't even matter. He's catfish without the ability to defend or rebound. That's not worth a first. He was the 6th best center in the league in terms of offensive value. I would have given up a late 1st for that. |
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