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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 20:42:46 GMT -6
Lakers send:
Travis Best
Corliss Williamson
Lakers '20 1st (1.3)
Lakers '20 2nd
Hornets '22 1st
Raptors send:
Kristaps Porzingis
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 7, 2015 20:48:15 GMT -6
Accept
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:52:10 GMT -6
Seems kinda cheap for the best wing scorer in the game
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:56:59 GMT -6
Tobi
Hill
Harden
Gingersnaps
Mighty Mouse
Is a very nice lineup
Also did not expect Jordan Hill to look that nice
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 20:57:20 GMT -6
Seems kinda cheap for the best wing scorer in the game See now this is just an uneducated post. -1.3 in a loaded draft. -Best put up great numbers off the bench as a rookie and IMO will be a MAX player when his contract is up. -Corliss led the entire league in FG% as a rook and put up over 18 PPG on 48% shooting starting at PF in the final sim. -Hornets '22 which should be pretty good based on the current state of rv's team plus rv is the GM. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 7, 2015 20:57:48 GMT -6
Oh hey you guys were full of it the entire time just like we said
Too easy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:58:58 GMT -6
Seems kinda cheap for the best wing scorer in the game See now this is just an uneducated post. -1.3 in a loaded draft. -Best put up great numbers off the bench as a rookie and IMO will be a MAX player when his contract is up. -Corliss led the entire league in FG% as a rook and put up over 18 PPG on 48% shooting starting at PF in the final sim. -Hornets '22 which should be pretty good based on the current state of rv's team plus rv is the GM. I will bet 500 dump bucks that Best will be a legitimate MAX player when his deal is up Also skeptical on Corliss. He wont be the first player to fade into mediocrity after a decent rookie season. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 7, 2015 21:00:08 GMT -6
I agree with dump that it is cheap for Porzingis.
Buster you don't need to defend the players again, I am not saying it is a bad trade or anything, just saying that I think you got a good deal for Kristaps. Be happy about that.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:00:22 GMT -6
See now this is just an uneducated post. -1.3 in a loaded draft. -Best put up great numbers off the bench as a rookie and IMO will be a MAX player when his contract is up. -Corliss led the entire league in FG% as a rook and put up over 18 PPG on 48% shooting starting at PF in the final sim. -Hornets '22 which should be pretty good based on the current state of rv's team plus rv is the GM. I will bet 500 dump bucks that Best will be a legitimate MAX player when his deal is up There's no way of defining what a legitimate max player is but I'll bet you 1,00 dump bucks that he gets a max contract. |
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:01:22 GMT -6
I agree with dump that it is cheap for Porzingis. Buster you don't need to defend the players again, I am not saying it is a bad trade or anything, just saying that I think you got a good deal for Kristaps. Be happy about that. I'm not defending the trade. No need to. This is a much better return than what you got for Starburry IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:01:34 GMT -6
I will bet 500 dump bucks that Best will be a legitimate MAX player when his deal is up There's no way of defining what a legitimate max player is but I'll bet you 1,00 dump bucks that he gets a max contract. Him getting a MAX is =/= to him being a true MAX player Lots of dumb GMs out there. Me included. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:01:57 GMT -6
I agree with dump that it is cheap for Porzingis. Buster you don't need to defend the players again, I am not saying it is a bad trade or anything, just saying that I think you got a good deal for Kristaps. Be happy about that. I'm not defending the trade. No need to. This is a much better return than what you got for Starburry IMO. Joe Smith > 1.3 in this draft |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 7, 2015 21:02:15 GMT -6
This draft isn't loaded. However, 1.3 does allow Pete to get a very good young player (LMA/Gay/Roy)
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:03:36 GMT -6
This draft isn't loaded. However, 1.3 does allow Pete to get a very good young player (LMA/Gay/Roy) If you don't think this draft is loaded then you haven't looked at the profiles. Take a look at Dil's big board. Great draft to have multiple top 10 picks. |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 7, 2015 21:03:48 GMT -6
I agree with dump that it is cheap for Porzingis. Buster you don't need to defend the players again, I am not saying it is a bad trade or anything, just saying that I think you got a good deal for Kristaps. Be happy about that. I'm not defending the trade. No need to. This is a much better return than what you got for Starburry IMO. You also got the better player.. |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 7, 2015 21:04:46 GMT -6
This draft isn't loaded. However, 1.3 does allow Pete to get a very good young player (LMA/Gay/Roy) I would agree with this. 1.1 -1.3 is great... after that it's a roll of the dice |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:05:12 GMT -6
This draft isn't loaded. However, 1.3 does allow Pete to get a very good young player (LMA/Gay/Roy) If you don't think this draft is loaded then you haven't looked at the profiles. Take a look at Dil's big board. Great draft to have multiple top 10 picks. Its a talented class yeah but its filled with way more uncertainty than nornal classes. Gay is a top 3 player but there is a very good chance he turns out to be Pippen lite |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 7, 2015 21:06:02 GMT -6
You can really see Pete's growth as a GM... at one point he would bent over no lube by buster... fast forward a bunch of years and now he simply didn't get enough but def not raped. Good job Pete
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 7, 2015 21:06:51 GMT -6
I agree with dump that it is cheap for Porzingis. Buster you don't need to defend the players again, I am not saying it is a bad trade or anything, just saying that I think you got a good deal for Kristaps. Be happy about that. I'm not defending the trade. No need to. This is a much better return than what you got for Starburry IMO. Kristaps is way more valuable than Marbury so it should be. In druce's RT, he had us rank the top 5 trade assets, Kristaps was #2 behind Harrison on my list and Marbury wasn't in the top 5. I think Marbury made one top 5 list and Kristaps was top 3 on almost every response. IMO Kristaps is the most valuable wing in the league right now and Marbury is probably the 4th most valuable PG (going off the top of my head but I would think Harrison, Curry, Conley would fetch more). |
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:06:43 GMT -6
I'm not defending the trade. No need to. This is a much better return than what you got for Starburry IMO. Joe Smith > 1.3 in this draft Joe put up 16.5 and 10 on 43% shooting. Not exactly lighting the world on fire as a rookie. Plus you have no idea what 1.3 in this draft is going to develop into, nor Joe Smith. Also, Corliss put up 12 and 5 on 53.6%. Off the bench. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:08:47 GMT -6
Joe Smith > 1.3 in this draft Joe put up 16.5 and 10 on 43% shooting. Not exactly lighting the world on fire as a rookie. Plus you have no idea what 1.3 in this draft is going to develop into, nor Joe Smith. Also, Corliss put up 12 and 5 on 53.6%. Off the bench. 20s had Joe in an outside offense for most of the season. He was better when he went to Odin iirc. Bradley is just as good as scorer as Best is |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:11:19 GMT -6
the top 5-6 in the last class were way more certain to succeed in this league then 2-14 in this class. Outside of LMA, Roy is probably the one I feel most comfortable with.
This is a smoke and mirrors class. Software/Soup could shape this class in a lot of ways.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:12:06 GMT -6
Joe put up 16.5 and 10 on 43% shooting. Not exactly lighting the world on fire as a rookie. Plus you have no idea what 1.3 in this draft is going to develop into, nor Joe Smith. Also, Corliss put up 12 and 5 on 53.6%. Off the bench. 20s had Joe in an outside offense for most of the season. He was better when he went to Odin iirc. Bradley is just as good as scorer as Best is Travis Best PG 82 21.8 13.2 2.4 3.8 0.9 0.1 1.1 .466 .879 .431 Charles Bradley SG 82 20.1 10.6 2.9 1.7 0.7 0.1 0.5 .444 .896 .350 |
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 7, 2015 21:13:40 GMT -6
the top 5-6 in the last class were way more certain to succeed in this league then 2-14 in this class. Outside of LMA, Roy is probably the one I feel most comfortable with. This is a smoke and mirrors class. Software/Soup could shape this class in a lot of ways. Now you just sound silly. Soup could shape every class in a lot of ways. Joe is in now way a surer thing than whoever Pete gets at 1.3 this draft. How do you want to go about this Travis Best bet? What IYO is MAX worthy? |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 7, 2015 21:13:45 GMT -6
This draft isn't loaded. However, 1.3 does allow Pete to get a very good young player (LMA/Gay/Roy) If you don't think this draft is loaded then you haven't looked at the profiles. Take a look at Dil's big board. Great draft to have multiple top 10 picks. Looking at this objectively and comparing the last 5 classes to this draft it will most likely rank 4th or 5th. 3019 and 3017 look to be very good classes. 3016 has overachieved and the an argument can be made either way for this class or the 3015 class. It is a better class then 3018 class on the surface. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 7, 2015 21:15:35 GMT -6
I'm okay with this return. It hurts to give up Kristaps and whatever I get won't be as good as he is, but I wanted to reset my team and I liked this more than any other offer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:17:10 GMT -6
the top 5-6 in the last class were way more certain to succeed in this league then 2-14 in this class. Outside of LMA, Roy is probably the one I feel most comfortable with. This is a smoke and mirrors class. Software/Soup could shape this class in a lot of ways. Now you just sound silly. Soup could shape every class in a lot of ways. Joe is in now way a surer thing than whoever Pete gets at 1.3 this draft. How do you want to go about this Travis Best bet? What IYO is MAX worthy? I've always thought this was a weird class with the way Odin gave out grades. I mean Shawne Williams has top 6 or so grades for christs sake. Lets do if he receives a full MAX contract |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 21:20:08 GMT -6
you could say Best/Corliss are good, but they are a lot like Wes Matthews in the Clyde trade.
Yeah they are good, but RV/Buster got to keep their top 3-4 players and in return they get a superstar.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 7, 2015 21:20:26 GMT -6
A better gm would've hunted our some deals to build around Kristaps but I don't have the bargaining skills or the time
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 7, 2015 21:26:44 GMT -6
you could say Best/Corliss are good, but they are a lot like Wes Matthews in the Clyde trade. Yeah they are good, but RV/Buster got to keep their top 3-4 players and in return they get a superstar. The picks I got aren't tied to how buster performs, so there's that difference |
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