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Post by SPL on Jan 12, 2017 16:47:40 GMT -6
Utah Jazz - (3023-3033) Toronto Raptors (3034-3037) New York Knicks (3038-3039)
Portland Trailblazers (3040) Minesota Timberwolves (3041) Charolette Hornets (3042)
Biography
Height : 6'10" Weight : 275 Drafted 18th overall by Utah Jazz in 3023 Traded in 3034 from Utah to Toronto Raptors Traded in 3038 from Toronto to New York signed as a FA by Miami in 3040 Traded in 3040 from Miami to Portland Traded in 3041 from Portland to Timberwolves Signed as a FA by Houston in 3042 Traded in 3042 from Houston to Charolette
At A Glance:
All-League: 10x (First Team: 3030, 3033, 3034 Second Team: 3029, 3032 Third Team: 3026, 3027, 3028, 3031, 3035)
All-Defensive: 3x (Second Team: 3025, 3026, 3029)
All-Star: 7x (3026, 3029, 3030,3031, 3032, 3033, 3034)
Rookie Honors: All-Star Rookie Game Participant (3024); All Star Rookie Game MVP (3024)
Career Stats
Years played: 20
Games played: 1380
Points per game: 26.2
Rebounds per game: 9.3
Assists per game: 1.3
Steals per game: 2.0
Blocks per game: 0.8
Turnovers per game: 1.0
FG%: .485
FT%: .888
3pt%: .328
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 254
Player of the Week: 10
Player of the Month: 2
Double Doubles: 640
Triple Doubles: 0
Career Highs
Points: 62
Rebounds: 23
Assists: 8
Steals: 9
Blocks: 5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 19:11:06 GMT -6
Who was least clutch? George Ackles or Oscar Robertson?
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Post by eric on Jan 12, 2017 19:17:38 GMT -6
good scorer
good rebounder
good defender
hall of good
voted no as a knick
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Post by Heebs on Jan 13, 2017 10:45:06 GMT -6
Absolutely as a Jazz.
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Post by Trofie on Jan 13, 2017 12:27:21 GMT -6
Yes
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Post by SPL on Jan 13, 2017 12:34:21 GMT -6
good scorer good rebounder good defender hall of good voted no as a knick Averaging over 26 points, 9 rebounds and 2 steals and just under 1 block a game over 20 years at SF is just good? |
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Post by eric on Jan 13, 2017 15:09:55 GMT -6
good scorer good rebounder good defender hall of good voted no as a knick Averaging over 26 points, 9 rebounds and 2 steals and just under 1 block a game over 20 years at SF is just good? Yes, in each case. |
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Post by Heebs on Jan 16, 2017 7:54:55 GMT -6
How many players have averaged 26 ppg for their careers?
How many wings have averaged 9 rpg for their careers?
How many players have averaged Ackles shooting percentages for their careers?
Steph "the best two-way big in the league" Templeton is a hall of good player. George Ackles is a clear hall of fame player.
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Post by Heebs on Jan 16, 2017 8:00:13 GMT -6
For the sake of wanting to be able to edit that post before eric did some research and showed me that my intuition was wrong about how much HoF guards/wings scored: the first 5 wing/PG HoF profiles (not nominees) I opened averaged 26 or 27 ppg.
PPG is really the only legitimate "knock" on Ackles. Those rpg and efficiency are elite.
No brainer yes.
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Post by eric on Jan 16, 2017 9:42:38 GMT -6
For the sake of wanting to be able to edit that post before eric did some research and showed me that my intuition was wrong about how much HoF guards/wings scored: the first 5 wing/PG HoF profiles (not nominees) I opened averaged 26 or 27 ppg. PPG is really the only legitimate "knock" on Ackles. Those rpg and efficiency are elite. No brainer yes. Because he so rarely took threes his efficiency is 1.09 points per true shot attempt - good, but not elite. You want an elite scorer look at Jimmy Chitwood 1.17, Porzingis 1.13, Andrew Harrison 1.13. Maybe you don't think it's fair to compare him to the greatest scorers of all time. Maybe you don't realize this is the Hall of Fame, not a Little League AYSO millennial participation trophy award. |
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Post by Heebs on Jan 16, 2017 9:54:40 GMT -6
Got to the line at an uber-elite clip.
Top 3 non-cheese wing rebounder.
Very good defense.
But please continue to tell us about how he was .04 pts/tsa from Porzingas and went from "elite" to just "good" scorers.
He is a very good to elite scorer. We can disagree on which category to put him into.
But there can be no reasonable disagreement that he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:34:25 GMT -6
He was 6'10" 275 lbs
I wouldn't classify him as non cheese wing
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Post by eric on Jan 16, 2017 13:18:59 GMT -6
Got to the line at an uber-elite clip. Top 3 non-cheese wing rebounder. Very good defense. But please continue to tell us about how he was .04 pts/tsa from Porzingas and went from "elite" to just "good" scorers. He is a very good to elite scorer. We can disagree on which category to put him into. But there can be no reasonable disagreement that he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. average is 1.06. .03 is the difference between average and good, the difference between good and elite. you only illustrate your ignorance by dismissing it.  |
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Post by Odin on Jan 27, 2017 11:45:44 GMT -6
voted no because i cant read his stats
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 6, 2017 11:19:18 GMT -6
The no votes are embarrassing
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Post by SPL on Feb 8, 2017 9:07:09 GMT -6
voted no because i cant read his stats
updated, sorry for that.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Feb 13, 2017 10:20:56 GMT -6
It's a yes for me. Jazz.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Mar 17, 2017 9:00:55 GMT -6
a surprising member of the 50/40/90 club, although one may argue that 70 3PA in a season doesn't qualify for that membership
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Mar 17, 2017 10:06:56 GMT -6
Apparently he was on my team? I did not know that.
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