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Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 1, 2017 14:36:53 GMT -6
Welcome back to the Big Board. This is the first year where I vehemently disagree with some of the rankings on my own big board just off-hand, I think it may have to do with how creatively some of these prospects are being built. Kudos to DM Heebs and Commish 20s for mixing it up.
For example, I think this class is clearly Randy Moss, Jim Thorpe, Tony Gonzalez, and then everyone else in the distance. Thorpe did not rate as well as expected on the Big Board but he has grades that should grow well and produce over time with B C+ scoring as well as C+ rebounding for a guard.
I do not think Berggren will be as good as his grade, but the formula loves shooting big men who don't absolutely blow on defense, so that's why he makes an appearance on the top 5. Similarly, Dulkys wouldn't normally rate this high in a class but there is not as many A potential players in the lottery group of prospects as normal, in my opinion.
I think you'll see that Bradley Bleal and John Stockston are underrated because the math can't adequately equate for their profile write-ups. I think you may also see Barry Sanders end up being much higher than his rating here. The formula penalizes him for having one elite skill and a mediocre complimentary set of grades, but I think with inside scoring that high, he should at least be an efficient, high-scoring guard at worst. That type of player can always find a spot on a team.
Finally, one player that I think will be a steal is Too Tall Jones. Generally, D/R bigs aren't well represented by the Big Board Formula, but Too Tall got a late lottery/mid-first grade and should be the best D/R player to come out of this class.
Without further ado:
For example, I think this class is clearly Randy Moss, Jim Thorpe, Tony Gonzalez, and then everyone else in the distance. Thorpe did not rate as well as expected on the Big Board but he has grades that should grow well and produce over time with B C+ scoring as well as C+ rebounding for a guard.
I do not think Berggren will be as good as his grade, but the formula loves shooting big men who don't absolutely blow on defense, so that's why he makes an appearance on the top 5. Similarly, Dulkys wouldn't normally rate this high in a class but there is not as many A potential players in the lottery group of prospects as normal, in my opinion.
I think you'll see that Bradley Bleal and John Stockston are underrated because the math can't adequately equate for their profile write-ups. I think you may also see Barry Sanders end up being much higher than his rating here. The formula penalizes him for having one elite skill and a mediocre complimentary set of grades, but I think with inside scoring that high, he should at least be an efficient, high-scoring guard at worst. That type of player can always find a spot on a team.
Finally, one player that I think will be a steal is Too Tall Jones. Generally, D/R bigs aren't well represented by the Big Board Formula, but Too Tall got a late lottery/mid-first grade and should be the best D/R player to come out of this class.
Without further ado:
Rank Pos Height Weight Age In Out Hn Df Reb Pot Grade Name
1 SG 6'5" 215 22 B B- C- B- C+ A 92.4 Randy Moss
2 PF 6'7" 240 21 B B C C+ B B 88.5 Tony Gonzalez
3 C 6'10" 245 22 B- B D B- C+ B 87.4 Jared Berggren
4 SG 6'5" 200 22 C+ B D+ C+ D+ A 84.2 Deividas Dulkys
5 SG 6'2" 210 22 B C+ C B C+ A 83.5 Jim Thorpe
6 PF 6'5" 255 24 B- B- B- B- B- C 82.8 Antonio Gates
7 SG 6'6" 210 23 B- B- C+ C+ D+ B 81.1 Travis Releford
8 C 6'7" 265 23 B C+ C B- B- B 80.3 Rob Gronkowski
9 PG 6'0" 190 23 C+ B- B- C+ D+ B 79.7 Tu Holloway
10 PG 6'2" 200 24 C+ B- B- C+ D+ B 79.7 Steve Young
11 SG 6'4" 215 21 B- B- B- C C- B 79.3 Randall Cunningham
12 SG 6'2" 200 23 C+ B- C B- C B 79.2 Antwaan Randle El
13 SG 6'7" 200 22 B- B- C+ C D+ B 78.2 Scotty Hopson
14 PF 6'7" 250 22 B- C+ C B+ C+ B 77.5 Jimmy Graham
15 C 6'11" 280 20 C C D+ B B A 76.4 Ed Jones
16 SG 6'6" 220 23 C+ B C+ C C- B 76.1 William Buford
17 PG 6'0" 185 22 C B+ C+ C D+ B 75.8 Rotnei Clarke
18 PG 6'2" 205 20 B C+ C+ C C- A 75.7 Tommie Frazier
19 SG 6'4" 225 21 C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ A 75.0 Andrew Steele
20 C 6'11" 245 21 B- C+ C B- C+ B 74.6 Ralph Sampson III
21 PF 6'8" 260 22 B C+ C C+ B- B 74.2 Kevin Jones
22 SG 6'4" 210 22 C B C- C+ C- B 72.9 Sean Mosley
22 PF 6'9" 260 22 B C+ D+ B- B- C 72.9 Yancy Gates
24 SG 6'3" 205 21 C C+ C- B+ C A 72.5 Richard Sherman
25 SG 6'4" 210 21 B B C+ C C- C 71.4 Zack Novak
26 SF 6'6" 210 23 C+ C+ C+ B- C+ B 71.0 DeAndre Liggins
27 SG 6'4" 210 21 B- C+ C+ C+ D+ B 70.9 Willie Warren
28 SG 6'3" 185 21 B- B C C D+ C 69.2 Mike Rosario
29 PG 5'8" 220 20 A- C C C+ C- A 68.9 Barry Sanders
30 SF 6'8" 225 22 C+ C+ D+ C+ C+ B 68.0 DeQuan Jones
31 SF 6'7" 210 23 C+ C+ C+ C+ C+ B 67.9 Kris Joseph
32 SG 6'2" 180 22 C+ C+ C C+ C B 65.9 Jason Clark
33 SG 6'6" 195 21 C+ B C C C- C 64.7 Scott Suggs
34 C 6'10" 275 20 B- D+ D- B B- B 64.2 J'Mison Morgan
35 PG 6'1" 170 22 C C B- A D+ B 64.1 John Stockston
36 C 6'10" 220 21 C+ C- D B B- B 63.9 Ater Majok
37 C 6'11" 245 19 B C- D+ B- B- B 63.8 Angel Garcia
38 C 6'10" 240 20 B D+ D B- B- B 62.9 Michael Dunigan
39 SG 6'5" 207 19 C+ C C- A C B 62.9 Bradley Bleal
40 C 6'11" 245 22 B- D+ C- B- B- B 62.6 Eloy Vargas
41 C 6'9" 350 22 B+ D+ D+ B A- C 61.8 Jonathan Ogden
42 C 6'8" 280 24 B+ D+ D- B B+ C 59.6 Rico Gathers
43 C 6'10" 265 20 A- D D C+ B B 58.1 Colton Iverson
44 PF 6'7" 220 22 B C- D C+ B- B 57.3 Emmanuel Negedu
45 PF 6'8" 235 24 B+ D+ C- C+ C+ A 56.0 Delvon Roe
46 SF 6'9" 220 24 B C C+ C+ B- C 55.4 Devin Ebanks
47 PF 6'9" 235 20 B C- C+ C+ C+ B 51.8 Samardo Samuels
48 C 7'0" 275 21 B D+ C- C+ C+ B 51.0 Kenny Frease
