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Post by TimPig on Oct 13, 2017 15:20:29 GMT -6
This one was a lot of fun. Thank you to everyone who participated. TimPig was your moderator. FectaDEEZ was your scorekeeper. Our panel was made up of: DelapMajicHeebsDrucesoundcloud.com/timpig/pod-save-40-ep-10-101317Segment One: The First Word
Current headlines are discussed. Each GM has 20-30 seconds to answer the question, then an open forum of discussion for rebuttals or further commentary.Segment Two: Buy or SellYour moderators make a statement, and each panelist says whether they're "Buying" that statement (i.e. they agree) or they're "Selling" (i.e. they disagree).Closing ThoughtsWe ended this episode with some fireworks. I encourage you to listen all the way through.Thanks, everyone! |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 15:48:54 GMT -6
Dunn is not "one of the best players in the league"
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Post by TimPig on Oct 13, 2017 15:51:38 GMT -6
Dunn is not "one of the best players in the league" Hot take. Majic? |
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Post by Majic on Oct 13, 2017 16:08:17 GMT -6
He was top 3 in win shares for all PGs 2 years ago
He was top 5 in winshares for all SGs this year
Lead a team to a 60 win season and won a title this year
In my book that's one of the best players in the league
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:09:54 GMT -6
He did not lead the spurs and win shares are not a good argument.
He doesnt shoot enough or well enough to be "one of the best"
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Oct 13, 2017 16:14:08 GMT -6
He did not lead the spurs and win shares are not a good argument. He doesnt shoot enough or well enough to be "one of the best" From that argument you must be team Kobe in the Kobe vs LeBron debate. If volume scoring is what makes someone the best... |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:18:38 GMT -6
He did not lead the spurs and win shares are not a good argument. He doesnt shoot enough or well enough to be "one of the best" From that argument you must be team Kobe in the Kobe vs LeBron debate. If volume scoring is what makes someone the best... A swing and a miss. Dunn is a very good player but no guard is "one of the best" at 25 ppg unless he's is elite everywhere else, and dunn is not. |
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Post by TimPig on Oct 13, 2017 16:21:40 GMT -6
Dunn is not "one of the best players in the league" Dunn is one of the best PGs in the league IMO. As a SG, he is very good, but not elite. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Oct 13, 2017 16:22:21 GMT -6
From that argument you must be team Kobe in the Kobe vs LeBron debate. If volume scoring is what makes someone the best... A swing and a miss. Dunn is a very good player but no guard is "one of the best" at 25 ppg unless he's is elite everywhere else, and dunn is not. Nah, I don't have a stance on Dunn but to define being one of the best just on shooting volume and efficiency ignores a lot of other important factors. Again, don't care about Dunn, but I think he is also an elite defender, eh? |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:24:43 GMT -6
Dunn is not "one of the best players in the league" Dunn is one of the best PGs in the league IMO. As a SG, he is very good, but not elite. Dunn has had one season in his career that can be considered elite. Turnovers were always far too high at pg for me. |
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Post by TimPig on Oct 13, 2017 16:29:08 GMT -6
Dunn is one of the best PGs in the league IMO. As a SG, he is very good, but not elite. Dunn has had one season in his career that can be considered elite. Turnovers were always far too high at pg for me. Guessing you're referring to the season where he averaged 32.5 ppg? Seems like that season he saw a slight dip in TOs and an additional +4ish in PPG. Before that, he was somewhere around the 26-28 ppg, but the assist (11-12 apg) and rebounding (5.5-6 rpg) numbers were similar. Never really noticed his TOs previously tbh, but that's a good point. His averages as a starter at PG were probably somewhere around 26.5 ppg, 11.8 apg, and 5.6 rpg, with efficiency around .470/.920/.420. |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:52:39 GMT -6
Why do people hate my bigs
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Post by Delap on Oct 13, 2017 16:55:08 GMT -6
Why do people hate my bigs Your bigs are decent... but the bigger problems are a) depth b) starting SF and c) neither of your guards rebounds worth crap... they are both pure PGs |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:56:31 GMT -6
Also, i have built an elite team twice but immediately lost a top 3 player to fa both times. I mean, i could have def done more over the years but thats what happened the two times i got my team to that level. Shit happens.
I usually get too emotional and fuck shit up
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 16:59:02 GMT -6
Why do people hate my bigs Your bigs are decent... but the bigger problems are a) depth b) starting SF and c) neither of your guards rebounds worth crap... they are both pure PGs I had more depth and a better sf the two years prior and won less games. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Oct 13, 2017 17:08:33 GMT -6
Also, i have built an elite team twice but immediately lost a top 3 player to fa both times. I mean, i could have def done more over the years but thats what happened the two times i got my team to that level. Shit happens. I usually get too emotional and fuck shit up <3 |
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Post by eric on Oct 13, 2017 17:50:31 GMT -6
1.09 career pts/tsa
not elite shot blocking but decent for PG
has literally the best steals per game season of all time, and that was when we still couldn't do Very Fast pace
ast:tov ratio consistently in the high 3s; not elite, but very good
very good rebounding for a guard
if he's your best player you're probably a second round exit kind of team
but who's a better second best player in the league? sugar rashard, who else?
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Post by Face-in on Oct 13, 2017 18:15:45 GMT -6
Good stuff from all the panelists, incredibly well hosted by Tim, but the star was whoever was in charge of the bell and buzzer, that guy is a real talent.
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Post by Face-in on Oct 13, 2017 18:19:22 GMT -6
Who will own up to being the mouth breather throughout the pod?
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Post by TimPig on Oct 13, 2017 18:21:14 GMT -6
Good stuff from all the panelists, incredibly well hosted by Tim, but the star was whoever was in charge of the bell and buzzer, that guy is a real talent. 5? |
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Post by Face-in on Oct 13, 2017 19:00:42 GMT -6
No need to ask me if I voted 5. I give literally everything but copy/paste interviews and articles from Billy a 5.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 13, 2017 19:04:27 GMT -6
1. Heebs calling out a GM from 40 Sim years ago. How shook is he?
2. Druce in Black face had me rolling.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Oct 13, 2017 19:04:34 GMT -6
No need to ask me if I voted 5. I give literally everything but copy/paste interviews and articles from Billy a 5. 5 means it's good, fason. You must have your numbers mixed up again. Like when you thought 0-82 was good. |
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Post by Odin on Oct 13, 2017 19:07:11 GMT -6
0-82 isnt good, its spectacular
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Oct 13, 2017 19:17:43 GMT -6
0-82 isnt good, its spectacular Nah, it's overkill. Anytime you go farther than required to accomplish a goal you have wasted both time and resources. It's like the kid that studies an extra 50 hours to get a 100% A instead of a 90% A, when he could've been smoking weed. Fason could've kept talent on his team and gotten the same result. He took the easy way out. Not to say I don't love the outlook of his team with all the picks, but 10-72 would've had the same effect and he'd have more assets. |
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Post by Heebs on Oct 13, 2017 21:59:21 GMT -6
Imagine being so interested in TMBSL that you listen to Pod Save 4.0, yet so scared of losing that you still don't want to GM a team.
I blame Dump and GBG. They did a number to Soup's psyche.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Oct 13, 2017 22:10:13 GMT -6
Imagine being so interested in TMBSL that you listen to Pod Save 4.0, yet so scared of losing that you still don't want to GM a team. I blame Dump and GBG. They did a number to Soup's psyche. Going to the well one too many times. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Oct 14, 2017 19:38:32 GMT -6
I've been told that a hot take was issued. I say: challenge accepted
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Post by TimPig on Oct 14, 2017 20:28:24 GMT -6
I've been told that a hot take was issued. I say: challenge accepted It was a SCORCHING take on the Raptors. |
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Post by SugarShaun on Oct 14, 2017 20:42:55 GMT -6
No surprise that Delap, the man who has faith in the Cavs, won
New goal: Finish with a better record than Majic before 4.0 ends
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