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Post by Odin on Jan 29, 2018 6:15:03 GMT -6
at this point i don't mind the commish having a team, i really don't, but i do mind him having 5.
so, i propose we let 4 GMs take a 2nd team for now. it would be great if we had a full league but we don't. this worked well in tmbbsl and it should work fine here. if heebs was taking a backseat to his GM responsibilities this would be different but he's actively doing things for all of them.
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 7:06:26 GMT -6
What did you expect to see here
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Post by Heebs on Jan 29, 2018 7:13:27 GMT -6
If other GMs are ok with that, that is fine with me. There will be certain limitations like “no direct or indirect trading between your teams.”
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 7:14:27 GMT -6
Claiming the kings
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Post by Heebs on Jan 29, 2018 7:20:35 GMT -6
There is no claiming a team. Teams will be offered to GMs that have demonstrated a commitment to TMBSL and who have not offered me crypto currency in trades.
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Post by Odin on Jan 29, 2018 7:22:42 GMT -6
There is no claiming a team. Teams will be offered to GMs that have demonstrated a commitment to TMBSL and who have not offered me crypto currency in trades. incredible stuff right here |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jan 29, 2018 7:24:07 GMT -6
There is no claiming a team. Teams will be offered to GMs that have demonstrated a commitment to TMBSL and who have not offered me crypto currency in trades. lol really? jesus fucking christ heebs a commish with his panties in a bunch in a dying league for no goddamn reason |
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 9:25:20 GMT -6
would people prefer some gms having two teams or me writing a formula to GM the compu teams? i don't have an issue with the herb running all the other teams option but i don't think it's sustainable
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Post by skrouse on Jan 29, 2018 10:14:18 GMT -6
A few guys GM'ing 2 teams seems better to me than Heebs doing 5.
I would prefer to see the 2nd team be in the other conference though.
And I would be OK with trading between the 2 teams if there is some sort of control in place. Like a committee of 5 GMs to vote and determine the trade is mutually beneficial for both teams. I would say the trade would need 4/5 approval votes by the committee, something like that, should be a rare occurrence though.
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jan 29, 2018 11:24:25 GMT -6
would people prefer some gms having two teams or me writing a formula to GM the compu teams? i don't have an issue with the herb running all the other teams option but i don't think it's sustainable I'm good with this. Is this something that you could actually do? |
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Post by TimPig on Jan 29, 2018 11:57:59 GMT -6
would people prefer some gms having two teams or me writing a formula to GM the compu teams? i don't have an issue with the herb running all the other teams option but i don't think it's sustainable I'm good with this. Is this something that you could actually do? And what does this entail? I have to imagine it can't accept trades or make FA bids. Unless you apply some sort of value to each attribute and then just have to ensure that values match up in a potential swap. IDK. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jan 29, 2018 12:50:32 GMT -6
I'm good with this. Is this something that you could actually do? And what does this entail? I have to imagine it can't accept trades or make FA bids. Unless you apply some sort of value to each attribute and then just have to ensure that values match up in a potential swap. IDK. You can easily write a trade analysis algorithm that compared whatever stats eric thinks are best. You could easily accept trades based on recent win shares and contract details and estimated pick value. Note "You" in this case is referring to someone good at computers. |
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Post by Druce on Jan 29, 2018 12:52:10 GMT -6
I feel like it'd be a lot easier to give 5 gms a 2nd team or whatever, but thats just my opinion
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Post by TimPig on Jan 29, 2018 12:52:56 GMT -6
And what does this entail? I have to imagine it can't accept trades or make FA bids. Unless you apply some sort of value to each attribute and then just have to ensure that values match up in a potential swap. IDK. You can easily write a trade analysis algorithm that compared whatever stats eric thinks are best. You could easily accept trades based on recent win shares and contract details and estimated pick value. Note "You" in this case is referring to someone good at computers. Yeah if everything these compu-teams do is based on what eric, the perennial eighth seed, values, I don't think it's great for the league. |
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 13:47:08 GMT -6
would people prefer some gms having two teams or me writing a formula to GM the compu teams? i don't have an issue with the herb running all the other teams option but i don't think it's sustainable I'm good with this. Is this something that you could actually do? i'm confident i can, although not by this FA period. i'll keep everyone posted |
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Post by Heebs on Jan 29, 2018 15:21:45 GMT -6
You can easily write a trade analysis algorithm that compared whatever stats eric thinks are best. You could easily accept trades based on recent win shares and contract details and estimated pick value. Note "You" in this case is referring to someone good at computers. Yeah if everything these compu-teams do is based on what eric, the perennial eighth seed, values, I don't think it's great for the league. Better than them taking top 5 picks and letting them wither on shit rosters filled with 1 year minimums signed to make a valid DC. |
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Post by TimPig on Jan 29, 2018 15:22:56 GMT -6
Yeah if everything these compu-teams do is based on what eric, the perennial eighth seed, values, I don't think it's great for the league. Better than them taking top 5 picks and letting them wither on shit rosters filled with 1 year minimums signed to make a valid DC. Lol touche. |
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 15:31:56 GMT -6
Yeah if everything these compu-teams do is based on what eric, the perennial eighth seed, values, I don't think it's great for the league. Better than them taking top 5 picks and letting them wither on shit rosters filled with 1 year minimums signed to make a valid DC. Actually this argument is terrible How do they "wither" or how is it wasting players? I've been told repeatedly that stats and ratings have nothing to do with growth. So how is not SCing and RCing someone effect their growth at all? If anything finding players on these teams that are serviceable and just need some camps coming off of rookie deals could become a huge market. |
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 15:35:39 GMT -6
Yeah if everything these compu-teams do is based on what eric, the perennial eighth seed, values, I don't think it's great for the league. Better than them taking top 5 picks and letting them wither on shit rosters filled with 1 year minimums signed to make a valid DC. And if you think Eric's macro is gonna do much other than try to fill these teams with guys for the min, you might want to rethink about who is writing the macro |
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Post by Heebs on Jan 29, 2018 15:37:01 GMT -6
Not SC/RCing early prevents SC and RCing the best attributes because once they are signed by a real GM they can be past the upgrade cap.
But that wasn’t my point. My point was that players like George Washington, Omar Little, Thomas Jefferson, etc, should be on teams that surround them with talent and don’t just represent 12 free wins for the active GMs because their teams fucking suck. It was so depressing watching Omar and Barry waste away on the Kings roster. I don’t want that to ever happen again.
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 15:43:07 GMT -6
Not SC/RCing early prevents SC and RCing the best attributes because once they are signed by a real GM they can be past the upgrade cap. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that players like George Washington, Omar Little, Thomas Jefferson, etc, should be on teams that surround them with talent and don’t just represent 12 free wins for the active GMs because their teams fucking suck. It was so depressing watching Omar and Barry waste away on the Kings roster. I don’t want that to ever happen again. Sounds like the king's could use a little killy bing |
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 15:44:34 GMT -6
Not SC/RCing early prevents SC and RCing the best attributes because once they are signed by a real GM they can be past the upgrade cap. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that players like George Washington, Omar Little, Thomas Jefferson, etc, should be on teams that surround them with talent and don’t just represent 12 free wins for the active GMs because their teams fucking suck. It was so depressing watching Omar and Barry waste away on the Kings roster. I don’t want that to ever happen again. Okay, that makes sense. I think Eric's macro might be a better move than letting GMs grab two teams. Seems like the whole dump bucks system breaks down if that happens. |
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 16:12:06 GMT -6
draft part of the macro is done
FA coming along nicely, think i can have it done by wednesday evening
trades will be after that, but i feel like we should have computrades at specific times in the season so herb doesn't have to keep opening the spreadsheet every time someone wants to take a flyer on whomever. i was thinking day 30, day 90, offseason but i'm open to suggestions
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Post by Killy Bing on Jan 29, 2018 16:13:41 GMT -6
draft part of the macro is done FA coming along nicely, think i can have it done by wednesday evening trades will be after that, but i feel like we should have computrades at specific times in the season so herb doesn't have to keep opening the spreadsheet every time someone wants to take a flyer on whomever. i was thinking day 30, day 90, offseason but i'm open to suggestions Make a Google form that we can type our offer into and the spreadsheet will just check that every few hours |
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 16:52:17 GMT -6
draft part of the macro is done FA coming along nicely, think i can have it done by wednesday evening trades will be after that, but i feel like we should have computrades at specific times in the season so herb doesn't have to keep opening the spreadsheet every time someone wants to take a flyer on whomever. i was thinking day 30, day 90, offseason but i'm open to suggestions Make a Google form that we can type our offer into and the spreadsheet will just check that every few hours i really wanted to make it a google doc but there's way too much macroing involved for that software to pull it off. for example the compuGM needs to pull information on every player this year and last year for FA purposes, which is a big ask even for Excel. for trades it would need up to date team and player salaries too, which isn't as tough but still more than google docs can handle. the other issue is that there's a 0% chance everyone will format their offers properly. we went through this with the day 1 DCs macro back in the day and trades would be just as bad. it wasn't a deal breaker for the DC macro because i was doing that instead of the commish anyway, but when it's a commish duty it's really more trouble than it's worth to try and make people use the same format. it's up to herb, i really think having reasonable restrictions on when trade offers can be processed is the way to go though. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Jan 29, 2018 16:55:59 GMT -6
Make a Google form that we can type our offer into and the spreadsheet will just check that every few hours i really wanted to make it a google doc but there's way too much macroing involved for that software to pull it off. for example the compuGM needs to pull information on every player this year and last year for FA purposes, which is a big ask even for Excel. for trades it would need up to date team and player salaries too, which isn't as tough but still more than google docs can handle. the other issue is that there's a 0% chance everyone will format their offers properly. we went through this with the day 1 DCs macro back in the day and trades would be just as bad. it wasn't a deal breaker for the DC macro because i was doing that instead of the commish anyway, but when it's a commish duty it's really more trouble than it's worth to try and make people use the same format. it's up to herb, i really think having reasonable restrictions on when trade offers can be processed is the way to go though. give me the excel code and i'll write it in c and give heebs a .bat file he could use |
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 18:00:22 GMT -6
i really wanted to make it a google doc but there's way too much macroing involved for that software to pull it off. for example the compuGM needs to pull information on every player this year and last year for FA purposes, which is a big ask even for Excel. for trades it would need up to date team and player salaries too, which isn't as tough but still more than google docs can handle. the other issue is that there's a 0% chance everyone will format their offers properly. we went through this with the day 1 DCs macro back in the day and trades would be just as bad. it wasn't a deal breaker for the DC macro because i was doing that instead of the commish anyway, but when it's a commish duty it's really more trouble than it's worth to try and make people use the same format. it's up to herb, i really think having reasonable restrictions on when trade offers can be processed is the way to go though. give me the excel code and i'll write it in c and give heebs a .bat file he could use how would that interact with the google doc though? or is this separate from that |
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Post by Heebs on Jan 29, 2018 18:29:18 GMT -6
A potential issue here is the laptop I use for sim doesn't have excel. I'll see if I can get a cheap copy through work. Pretty sure I can.
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Post by SPL on Jan 29, 2018 18:34:59 GMT -6
I can GM a 2nd team
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Post by eric on Jan 29, 2018 20:02:51 GMT -6
A potential issue here is the laptop I use for sim doesn't have excel. I threw up in my human mouth a little. I'll keep working on it in the interim, worst case I can periscope the outputs for you so you know it's legit and send you a .txt or something. |
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