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Post by 20s Navidad on Nov 17, 2014 21:35:06 GMT -6
 Steve Nash
Position: PG Age: 22 Height: 6'3 Weight: 195 School: Santa Clara C+ B B+ C- D+ B
Nash is probably the best passing PG in the class and he comes with a pro level offensive game as well. He is everything you could ask for and then some on the offensive end of the court. An accomplished jump shooter and proficient FT shooter, Nash will keep defenses honest by knocking down open shots. However, he has a ton of work to do on the defensive end of the floor. He currently is a poor defender and scouts disagree on whether or not he can develop on defense. This makes him an interesting player in the draft because some scouts refuse to draft him due to his defensive deficiencies while others believe he can still develop on that side of the ball and that his great offense more than makes up for his lack of defense. Nash could land almost anywhere in the first round. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 21:38:29 GMT -6
Ewwwwww that C- defense
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Post by dilworth on Nov 17, 2014 21:45:02 GMT -6
goodness gracious
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Post by IanBoyd on Nov 17, 2014 21:51:50 GMT -6
well shit C- def, he's gonna be just as useless in 4.0 as he was in 2.0
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 22:09:22 GMT -6
C- defense is the biggest kiss of death one can inflict on a sim player
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Post by IanBoyd on Nov 17, 2014 23:56:36 GMT -6
PG with a *high* C- def on the edge of C def:
90 quickness
20 steals
25 perimeter defense
65 drive defense
50 strength
that's about the high end of what C- def looks like. Low end u can drop quickness to about 60, perimeter/steals to about 15.
cliffs: give him C def plz.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Nov 18, 2014 0:08:17 GMT -6
C- defense is a killer. Wouldn't even be a lotto guy,with those grades if his name wasn't Steve Nash.
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Post by KwYawnza on Nov 18, 2014 4:11:39 GMT -6
Why does every Steve Nash have to suck
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Post by Odin on Nov 18, 2014 10:06:44 GMT -6
PG with a *high* C- def on the edge of C def: 90 quickness 20 steals 25 perimeter defense 65 drive defense 50 strength that's about the high end of what C- def looks like. Low end u can drop quickness to about 60, perimeter/steals to about 15. cliffs: give him C def plz. Sure, if you want half of that C- to be drive d and him to be c+ at sf |
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Post by Mad King on Nov 18, 2014 10:16:12 GMT -6
Grades are pretty dirty..so come to the dirty side of LA
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Post by IanBoyd on Nov 18, 2014 10:25:28 GMT -6
PG with a *high* C- def on the edge of C def: 90 quickness 20 steals 25 perimeter defense 65 drive defense 50 strength that's about the high end of what C- def looks like. Low end u can drop quickness to about 60, perimeter/steals to about 15. cliffs: give him C def plz. Sure, if you want half of that C- to be drive d and him to be c+ at sf Sure, if you intend a 6'3'' D+ rebound guy be a true SF. Point is that the highest you can go for steals/perimeter def with a C- grade for a PG is at around 20-30, make it any higher and their quickness will need to be in the 50s. You can give Nash 100 potential and he'll still bust at least half the time with C- def even if you bump his other attributes to the highest they can possibly be. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Nov 18, 2014 10:28:20 GMT -6
He isn't likely to develop into a great defender. He isn't a good defender. I don't see why you think he is worthless if he isn't a good defender.
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Post by IanBoyd on Nov 18, 2014 10:31:04 GMT -6
All I'm saying is don't give him a grade set in the software that will have like an almost guarantee bust rate for a lotto guy.
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Post by Odin on Nov 18, 2014 11:00:41 GMT -6
Sure, if you want half of that C- to be drive d and him to be c+ at sf Sure, if you intend a 6'3'' D+ rebound guy be a true SF. Point is that the highest you can go for steals/perimeter def with a C- grade for a PG is at around 20-30, make it any higher and their quickness will need to be in the 50s. You can give Nash 100 potential and he'll still bust at least half the time with C- def even if you bump his other attributes to the highest they can possibly be. 20 perimeter d, 100 quickness, strength, and steals = C- |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Nov 18, 2014 11:17:35 GMT -6
Well Nash wasn't a lotto guy irl so if he doesn't go in the lotto I have no problem with that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 11:21:47 GMT -6
He isn't a good defender irl but he isnt a C- guy
Wonder what defensive rating 20s will give Dirk? C-?
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Post by Bankz on Nov 18, 2014 19:46:36 GMT -6
He isn't a good defender irl but he isnt a C- guy Wonder what defensive rating 20s will give Dirk? C-? C- is fair for Dirk.. horrible defender.... Elite scorer |
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