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Post by eric on Aug 28, 2016 19:33:02 GMT -6
33 rookies got PT this preseason. Yeah. 1. Patrick Ewing Elite shot blocking, elite for a big jump shooting, solid volume. Really nothing more to say. Clear favorite for ROY, by far and away the best rookie in this class. 2. Adrian Branch Michele's younger brother put up some very respectable numbers on both sides of the ball. 3P% grows like a weed for wings, he looks like a real prospect going forward and even in a legit class he'd be on the ladder. 3. Wayman Tisdale The whey man has been taking care of his protein supplements and scores like a monster. Rebounding also looks very strong. That defense makes it look like SF is his long term position though, and without threes it's hard to score efficiently there. 4. Dabney Coleperson Scores and steals like a cool person. Woeful ast/tov ratio but that's what SGs are for. 5. Detlef Schrempf Now we go off a clifpf. The mediocre white hope looks like an elite rebounder and is taking plenty of threes, but his jumper and shot blocking are painful to watch. Has a great ast/tov ratio........ 6. Benoit Benjamin If he actually ends up the sixth best rookie this might be the WOAT draft class. As it is he's literally the only non Ewing rookie to break 2 BPG, so even that incredibly modest accomplishment is enough to get him here. 7. Keith Lee Look, I know it's not that impressive. But we need a top ten, and he had decent scoring and rebounding per minute numbers. His turnovers and shotblocking are a real cause for concern, what else is new. 8. Bill Wennington Again, wasn't horrible as a d/r guy in limited minutes. It's a low bar, folks. 9. Michael Phelps He had great percentages in a tiny sample size. His reefer addiction spells huge trouble for his future growth so he better start high. How high? 10. Steve Harris He might have elite shot blocking as an SG. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 28, 2016 22:32:53 GMT -6
tisdale isn't sf eligible so that is a pointless comment. thanks.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 28, 2016 23:01:24 GMT -6
Chris Mullin SF 22 6'6'' 200 B- A- B- B+ C A
Not on the list. Okay.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 29, 2016 5:53:12 GMT -6
The rookie ladder has always been based on on-court production, nor grades or potential
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Post by SugarShaun on Aug 29, 2016 7:59:22 GMT -6
I expect a very different looking top 10 on the next update
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Post by MistleTacoe on Aug 29, 2016 8:16:13 GMT -6
C'mon Eric. Xavier McDaniels didn't make the list? Shooting 45%, 12ppg, and 7rpg in 23 minutes? Will certainly average 2 steals and 1 block per game at a higher minutes clip.
C'mon
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Post by eric on Aug 29, 2016 8:24:33 GMT -6
C'mon Eric. Xavier McDaniels didn't make the list? Shooting 45%, 12ppg, and 7rpg in 23 minutes? Will certainly average 2 steals and 1 block per game at a higher minutes clip. C'mon 64% from the line though and 0 threes attempted in 278 shots. I like X Man I hope he makes it, but his scoring is scary bad right now. |
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Post by eric on Aug 29, 2016 8:24:53 GMT -6
tisdale isn't sf eligible so that is a pointless comment. thanks.  |
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Post by MistleTacoe on Aug 29, 2016 8:26:46 GMT -6
C'mon Eric. Xavier McDaniels didn't make the list? Shooting 45%, 12ppg, and 7rpg in 23 minutes? Will certainly average 2 steals and 1 block per game at a higher minutes clip. C'mon 64% from the line though and 0 threes attempted in 278 shots. I like X Man I hope he makes it, but his scoring is scary bad right now. Shooting 3s is a pre-req for being good? Dumb. |
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Post by eric on Aug 29, 2016 8:32:29 GMT -6
64% from the line though and 0 threes attempted in 278 shots. I like X Man I hope he makes it, but his scoring is scary bad right now. Shooting 3s is a pre-req for being good? Dumb. Shooting threes significantly alters what a given FG% means in terms of actual efficiency. XMan shoots 45% on all twos, if there were a player who shot 40% on all threes obviously the second player would be a massively better scorer even though 45% > 40%. In our league a player can only get up to shooting threes on about two fifths of their attempts but you get the idea. |
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Post by MistleTacoe on Sept 2, 2016 9:45:20 GMT -6
A couple players that should probably make this list the next time around....
Xavier McDaniel SF 24 32.7 18.8 9.5 1.8 2.0 0.5 1.6 .482 .748 .000
John Battle SG 16 15.2 8.7 2.1 1.6 0.5 0.1 1.5 .520 .848 .529
Chris Mullin SF 14 36.3 20.8 5.2 4.1 1.2 0.6 3.1 .423 .769 .396
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Post by Odin on Sept 2, 2016 9:53:09 GMT -6
Wayman Tisdale C 19 20.8 10.5 6.5 0.9 0.6 0.7 0.7 .526 .803 .000
Vincent Adultman C 9 22.2 3.1 7.3 1.0 1.1 1.6 1.2 .444 .667 .000
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2016 9:53:40 GMT -6
Day 30 Update1. Patty Ewing The pride of St. Andrew's Parish, Jamaica, Ewing continues his domination of the rookie class. His shot blocking has fallen from elite to merely very good, though, so he might not be the best big man in the league anymore. . 2. Wayman Tisdale Still scoring like a beast, still defending like a west. . 3. John Battle Didn't play in preseason, but is scorching the net now, and good thing because at his size, rebounding, defense, and handling, he has to be an elite scorer to be worthwhile. B Outside and his 3PA/FGA ratio also suggests his shooting is going to come down to earth a bit. . 4. Detlef Schrempf Very good efficiency and rebounding, C+ Handling and his ast:tov ratio make it very plausible he could get to B+ Handling with some camps and luck, but alas, as a SF/PF profile he's PG ineligible anyway. . 5. Adrian Branch In limited time his scoring has plummeted, but his defense remains elite. I think his FG% will normalize to 43%ish, he'll still have great FT%, and in years to come his 3P% will make the grade. The Next Broderick Langhi with a little help from SC/RC, and unlike Schrempf he was SF profile so he has a real shot at PG eligibility if the GM works at it. . 6. Alredick Hughes In a very small sample he has elite %s and scoring volume. Neither was true in preseason but he did well enough there for me to be very interested in him. . 7. Vincent Adultman One of three d/r big types getting minutes so far along with Jon Koncak and Benoit Benjamin. Benny has the lead in blocks but Vinny shoots by far the least and the most efficiently, so he gets the nod for now. . 8. Mario Elie Best rookie on the Cavs. Sorry Shaun. He doesn't do anything great but he's got solid scoring volume and efficiency, solid defense, solid rebounding, turnovers are under control. . 9. Chris Mullin His efficiency has a long way to go and he's got turnover issues but at least he's getting buckets, albeit on a team with no other scorers. . 10. Mike Smrek Right now he shoots too much for a d/r and not well enough for a two way, but I think the Ogre has a shot at getting to the latter. He's got decent volume and %s already, his Jump Shot looks solid, his blocks aren't good but they aren't Young KG level. There's potential here. Not a lot. But some. . Previously ranked: Dump trying to hide Dabney Coleperson and Keith Lee from us. Nice try Dump. Bill Wennington, Michael Phelps are all filler, no killer Steve Harris is still blocking shots like a grown man
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2016 9:54:43 GMT -6
A couple players that should probably make this list the next time around.... Xavier McDaniel SF 24 32.7 18.8 9.5 1.8 2.0 0.5 1.6 .482 .748 .000 John Battle SG 16 15.2 8.7 2.1 1.6 0.5 0.1 1.5 .520 .848 .529 Chris Mullin SF 14 36.3 20.8 5.2 4.1 1.2 0.6 3.1 .423 .769 .396 Wayman Tisdale C 19 20.8 10.5 6.5 0.9 0.6 0.7 0.7 .526 .803 .000 Vincent Adultman C 9 22.2 3.1 7.3 1.0 1.1 1.6 1.2 .444 .667 .000 didn't see this before i posted but if it happens again i'm docking the players spots out of spite |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 10:32:29 GMT -6
Lee and Dab are now on the active roster FYI
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Post by MistleTacoe on Sept 2, 2016 12:19:03 GMT -6
The idea that Xavier McDaniels isn't on the list is laughable.
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Post by Face-in on Sept 2, 2016 12:32:59 GMT -6
Eric, nobody cares about guys playing less than 10 minutes a game. Show us what lotto picks like McDaniels and Malone are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 12:49:30 GMT -6
Eric, nobody cares about guys playing less than 10 minutes a game. Show us what lotto picks like McDaniels and Malone are doing. I care |
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2016 12:49:31 GMT -6
Eric, nobody cares about guys playing less than 10 minutes a game. They should.If they earn it, I will. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 2, 2016 13:00:50 GMT -6
I for one am glad that eric is a smrekkie
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 2, 2016 13:10:00 GMT -6
MistleTacoe (and Face-in ), but especially taco bc it happens on every one of your DCs, it's McDaniel not McDaniels. No s.
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Post by Face-in on Sept 2, 2016 13:24:21 GMT -6
Serves me right for copying Taco. I feel great shame.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 2, 2016 13:32:44 GMT -6
Any consideration for Carey Scurry SF 23 23.1 11.1 5.3 1.2 0.7 0.6 1.0 .442 .740 .488?
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Post by MistleTacoe on Sept 2, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -6
Its just a bad Rookie Ladder, 20s. Lots of mistakes all around
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2016 13:42:52 GMT -6
Any consideration for Carey Scurry SF 23 23.1 11.1 5.3 1.2 0.7 0.6 1.0 .442 .740 .488? yes, not least for being able to use his last name as a verb, but i like Elie as the better version of the all around guy who still needs work most places. |
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Post by eric on Sept 6, 2016 12:11:39 GMT -6
Day 60 Update. 1. Patrick Ewing %s continue to decline, but he's still already an elite big in the league. No rookie comes close. . 2. Mario Elie  Mr. All Around keeps getting it done for the fighting Shauns. Great complementary player for sure, has an outside chance at being a star if he can hit some solid Inside Scoring TCs. . 3. Wayman Tisdale His blocks have ticked up slightly from the Blake Griffin to the Young KG level. There's hope yet for the Big Protein Supplement. . 4. Alredick Hughes  Chronicles al-Redick is going to see his 3P% come down for sure and his FG% too, but the efficiency is just too high to ignore. His rebounding looks really nice too which is a good thing because his defense looks awful. . 5. Vincent Adultman A casualty of Odin's War on Wins, Vinny isn't long for this list if he doesn't get some more playing time. His size, stats, and scoring volume make him the elite d/r big of this class so far, though when your biggest competition is Jon Kon that's not saying much. . 6. Detlef Schrempf  Remains a solid scorer and very good rebounder, defense is a major concern. No wonder we kicked his countrymen's butts in WW2. . 7. John Battle  Shooting has cooled off and he's not giving you anything else, but he's still a plus scorer so he stays on the list. . 8. Mike Smrek  Smrekky remains an interesting project big and so he opens the section of three guys who could be really good someday but aren't terribly useful in their present state. . 9. Adrian Branch  The Branch Manager as predicted has gotten up to about 43% from the field, but he's still got a way to go to hit his preseason efficiencies. He's by far the most interesting rookie because his biggest weakness is rebounding, and if he does become PG eligible that instantly transforms into a strength. His measurables preclude a move to the big spots, tempting as that may be. . 10. Benoit Benjamin BenoBenj is Tristan Thompson right now, which is ironic considering the Rockets just traded for TT. He's got very nice d/r numbers but takes waaaay too many shots for his poor efficiency. Unlike TT his Jump Shot is in good shape (righty AND lefty) so he's got a chance, but if he shoots in the 30s the rest of his career he'll never be useful. Previously on the list: Chris Mullin
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Post by ANK1990 on Sept 6, 2016 12:45:32 GMT -6
The Xavier McDaniel snub continues!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 12:51:31 GMT -6
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 6, 2016 12:53:35 GMT -6
because he's either a SF who doesn't shoot threes or a PF who doesn't block shots |
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Post by MistleTacoe on Sept 6, 2016 13:22:46 GMT -6
If anyone was curious.....Xavier McDaniel - 34.1 19.0 9.7 1.7 1.9 0.6 1.6 .480 .726 .000
Pretty obviously a top 5 rookie. I would argue top 3 but thats just me.
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