3044 Rookie Ladder Presented by Monroe Square Garden Company
Feb 14, 2017 10:19:48 GMT -6
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Post by eric on Feb 14, 2017 10:19:48 GMT -6
preseason and summer league
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1. Domantas Sabonis
Baby Sabo is the best rebounder and scorer in the class, and he plays the big positions at 6'11". That's the good news. The bad news is that he is blocking shots about as well as Isaiah Whitehead. It's a glaring weakness but one that is relatively likely to be addressed: +16 in camps and hope for decent TCs and he can be an MVP. If he was on the Hawks I'd be a lot more worried about his future, but it looks like Boston has landed Yet Another Great White Hope to fill the shoes of Bird.
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2. Isaiah Whitehead
This class is extremely light on point guards, but even in a more balanced class Isaiah would look pretty good. Quality scoring in both leagues, 6'4", looked like a decent rebounder in preseason. His handling attribute might actually be negative, so he needs to get that sewn up, but like Sabonis his biggest weakness is an attribute of great growth for his position, so he should be fine.
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3. Brandon Ingram
Up next we have two rookies who had wildly divergent performances in summer and preseason. Ingram couldn't hit the bucket with a shovel in summer league, but was sensational in similar preseason minutes: scoring, shotblocking, rebounding, handling, and he's 6'9" and SG eligible. If he splits the difference he'll be a 1.13 elite scorer type guy, so I have him ahead for now.
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4. Ben Simmons
Lil' Sports Guy went the opposite route, lighting up summer league and struggling in preseason. The divergence wasn't as severe for him, but if we do the same split the difference he only ends up as a 1.07 average scorer type. He's also only SF eligible so his extra inch isn't compelling. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up ahead of Ingram and even #1, but for now he hasn't shown it.
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5. Dragan Bender
The Code of the Dragan is scoring extremely well, but like the Domanator the shot blocking is not there, and he compounds this with major red flags at rebounding. He's 7'1" but it's unlikely he gets home run TCs in both shot blocking and rebounding, and he's not SF eligible so he'll probably never be a true star.
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6. Thon Maker
We've got quite a few traditional bigs in this class, and Thon is the head of that class. He led all players in preseason shot blocking and was second in summer league, though the 1.9 blocks per 36 number in summer league is a bit of a concern. All these four guys have about average efficiency for a big, but his is built on an elite jump shot so I'm a lot more confident it's sustainable. Rebounding is good but not great, which should grow fine, and he's flashing some Webber esque passing. Rounding it out he's 7'1", so at minimum he should be a good d/r guy and if he can keep the efficiency up he's got enough volume to become a solid two way big.
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7. Marquese Chriss
Marqy Marq is just a little worse than Thon across the board. Not as efficient, no passing, not as many blocks or boards, three inches shorter. His volume is a little higher but that's more likely to be a bad thing than a good one. Still, the bones are there to grow into a solid traditional big.
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8. AJ Hammons
The Hammoer is the only guy who put up 2+ shot blocking in summer league and continued it in preseason, so I trust his shot blocking the most. His problem is that his volume is even higher than Chriss's' (h/t Heebs) and his efficiency is outright poor - he's looking a little Tristan Thompsony, and that's hard to salvage.
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9. Skai Labissiere
Skai "Walker David" Labissiere has taken over the #1 player ID of Jonas "Confirmed Would Be Hall of Famer If He Was Black" Valanciunas, and his summer league scoring was similarly electric. His preseason was mediocre though, so he probably won't be here long. Just as well considering his name is actually Skal.
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10. Ben Awyle
Young Tide with Bleach didn't get the stains out in preseason, but he was frisky in summer league. He's only here because he was the last guy who was decent in both leagues, I don't think he's long for the ladder.
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1. Domantas Sabonis
Baby Sabo is the best rebounder and scorer in the class, and he plays the big positions at 6'11". That's the good news. The bad news is that he is blocking shots about as well as Isaiah Whitehead. It's a glaring weakness but one that is relatively likely to be addressed: +16 in camps and hope for decent TCs and he can be an MVP. If he was on the Hawks I'd be a lot more worried about his future, but it looks like Boston has landed Yet Another Great White Hope to fill the shoes of Bird.
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2. Isaiah Whitehead
This class is extremely light on point guards, but even in a more balanced class Isaiah would look pretty good. Quality scoring in both leagues, 6'4", looked like a decent rebounder in preseason. His handling attribute might actually be negative, so he needs to get that sewn up, but like Sabonis his biggest weakness is an attribute of great growth for his position, so he should be fine.
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3. Brandon Ingram
Up next we have two rookies who had wildly divergent performances in summer and preseason. Ingram couldn't hit the bucket with a shovel in summer league, but was sensational in similar preseason minutes: scoring, shotblocking, rebounding, handling, and he's 6'9" and SG eligible. If he splits the difference he'll be a 1.13 elite scorer type guy, so I have him ahead for now.
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4. Ben Simmons
Lil' Sports Guy went the opposite route, lighting up summer league and struggling in preseason. The divergence wasn't as severe for him, but if we do the same split the difference he only ends up as a 1.07 average scorer type. He's also only SF eligible so his extra inch isn't compelling. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up ahead of Ingram and even #1, but for now he hasn't shown it.
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5. Dragan Bender
The Code of the Dragan is scoring extremely well, but like the Domanator the shot blocking is not there, and he compounds this with major red flags at rebounding. He's 7'1" but it's unlikely he gets home run TCs in both shot blocking and rebounding, and he's not SF eligible so he'll probably never be a true star.
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6. Thon Maker
We've got quite a few traditional bigs in this class, and Thon is the head of that class. He led all players in preseason shot blocking and was second in summer league, though the 1.9 blocks per 36 number in summer league is a bit of a concern. All these four guys have about average efficiency for a big, but his is built on an elite jump shot so I'm a lot more confident it's sustainable. Rebounding is good but not great, which should grow fine, and he's flashing some Webber esque passing. Rounding it out he's 7'1", so at minimum he should be a good d/r guy and if he can keep the efficiency up he's got enough volume to become a solid two way big.
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7. Marquese Chriss
Marqy Marq is just a little worse than Thon across the board. Not as efficient, no passing, not as many blocks or boards, three inches shorter. His volume is a little higher but that's more likely to be a bad thing than a good one. Still, the bones are there to grow into a solid traditional big.
.
8. AJ Hammons
The Hammoer is the only guy who put up 2+ shot blocking in summer league and continued it in preseason, so I trust his shot blocking the most. His problem is that his volume is even higher than Chriss's' (h/t Heebs) and his efficiency is outright poor - he's looking a little Tristan Thompsony, and that's hard to salvage.
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9. Skai Labissiere
Skai "Walker David" Labissiere has taken over the #1 player ID of Jonas "Confirmed Would Be Hall of Famer If He Was Black" Valanciunas, and his summer league scoring was similarly electric. His preseason was mediocre though, so he probably won't be here long. Just as well considering his name is actually Skal.
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10. Ben Awyle
Young Tide with Bleach didn't get the stains out in preseason, but he was frisky in summer league. He's only here because he was the last guy who was decent in both leagues, I don't think he's long for the ladder.
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