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Post by Odin on Jul 12, 2014 15:28:41 GMT -6
The idea is to move the resigning deadline to before Day 5 of FA. There would be no more declining of contracts. All of them will be automatically declined and you will be given the opportunity to accept their desired contract at any point between when resignings are posted and when Day 5 of FA is ran, allowing you to sign other players or offer a cheaper deal before you accept the resigning. Obviously that would be very risky with big time players. This has been discussed in shout before and seemed to be well-received.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 12, 2014 15:33:24 GMT -6
So their salary isn't actually on your books until you accept the contract or how does that work? Like say Dr. J offers to re-sign and the first year starts at $15 mil, putting me at $45 mil in total cap. Would I be able to offer free agents up to $20 mil on days 1-2/3-4 or only $5 mil?
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Post by Odin on Jul 12, 2014 15:36:29 GMT -6
So their salary isn't actually on your books until you accept the contract or how does that work? Like say Dr. J offers to re-sign and the first year starts at $15 mil, putting me at $45 mil in total cap. Would I be able to offer free agents up to $20 mil on days 1-2/3-4 or only $5 mil? Well I wouldn't ever use this on a Doc J type, but in that situation you'd have the 20 until you signed someone. |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 12, 2014 15:37:47 GMT -6
Other teams would be able to offer players who offered to resign with their previous team but the team hasn't accepted the offer yet, correct?
Just making sure I am reading it correctly.
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Post by Odin on Jul 12, 2014 15:38:59 GMT -6
Other teams would be able to offer players who offered to resign with their previous team but the team hasn't accepted the offer yet, correct? Just making sure I am reading it correctly. Correct. Then if the player doesn't sign during that FA sim you could accept the resign offer. |
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 12, 2014 15:40:19 GMT -6
Would there be any restricted FAs (a la Gordon Hayward) or is everyone still unrestricted?
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Post by Odin on Jul 12, 2014 15:44:52 GMT -6
Would there be any restricted FAs (a la Gordon Hayward) or is everyone still unrestricted? I'm open to any ideas that will create a restricted free agent type thing but this particular rule doesn't really address that. It just allows you to accept resign offers after the first two FA sims assuming that player hasn't been signed. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 12, 2014 15:48:27 GMT -6
i'm against restricted free agents. I like Odin's idea.
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Post by Jerry West on Jul 12, 2014 15:50:48 GMT -6
Just trying to get an understanding on what it will be like before I answer.
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Post by Odin on Jul 12, 2014 15:54:40 GMT -6
Just trying to get an understanding on what it will be like before I answer. Most seemed to think it would only affect 2nd tier players and role players, or people who try to get greedy and ruin their team. Which would all be good fun to watch. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 12, 2014 15:57:33 GMT -6
like the rule
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Post by Ocho on Jul 12, 2014 16:05:31 GMT -6
Yea assuming I understand it correctly I like it.
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Post by ANK1990 on Jul 12, 2014 16:50:19 GMT -6
No.
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Post by Heynong Man on Jul 12, 2014 17:28:47 GMT -6
no
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Post by scatmanduse on Jul 12, 2014 17:39:53 GMT -6
Not a fan
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Post by dilworth on Jul 12, 2014 17:58:54 GMT -6
I like it how it is.
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Post by Ocho on Jul 12, 2014 18:19:26 GMT -6
just curious, but why are the people who voted no against it?
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Post by Druce on Jul 13, 2014 10:14:57 GMT -6
so essentially if the player isn't signed by another team after sim 1 you can accept the original contract they offered to re-sign on, and the same after sim 2, essentially not committing that cap space to them until you know you can't use it on someone else you'd value more, as long as someone else doesn't sign them?
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Post by Odin on Jul 13, 2014 11:59:14 GMT -6
so essentially if the player isn't signed by another team after sim 1 you can accept the original contract they offered to re-sign on, and the same after sim 2, essentially not committing that cap space to them until you know you can't use it on someone else you'd value more, as long as someone else doesn't sign them? Indeed |
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Post by Buster 5000 on Jul 13, 2014 12:16:31 GMT -6
Now that I fully understand I've changed my vote to yes.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 13, 2014 12:17:41 GMT -6
i dont think people realize how little this will effect. this will mostly be used on mle type players, maybe a step above imo.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 13, 2014 12:19:32 GMT -6
my only concern is when you decline all the resignings, the team with bird years on a player wont be able to offer what they could have.
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Post by Odin on Jul 13, 2014 12:23:49 GMT -6
my only concern is when you decline all the resignings, the team with bird years on a player wont be able to offer what they could have. I haven't seen one instance of that. |
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Post by RWisoursavior on Jul 13, 2014 12:25:58 GMT -6
Adds more strategy into the offseason, I like it.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 13, 2014 12:30:28 GMT -6
my only concern is when you decline all the resignings, the team with bird years on a player wont be able to offer what they could have. I haven't seen one instance of that. the famous mike conley/canes off-season he declined conley's resign, and he wasnt able to start his contract 120% of the previous year |
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Post by Mad King on Jul 13, 2014 12:33:57 GMT -6
It changes the steering salary. Because they had no previous contract because you cut them...not a fan of the rule but don't mind it either way. Max guys will never get declined.
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Post by Trofie on Jul 13, 2014 12:39:10 GMT -6
It changes the steering salary. Because they had no previous contract because you cut them...not a fan of the rule but don't mind it either way. Max guys will never get declined. Canes declined Conley |
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Post by Mad King on Jul 13, 2014 12:43:00 GMT -6
Cousins type contracst wille of course
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Post by Druce on Jul 13, 2014 15:01:52 GMT -6
so if a guy you have birds on offers to re-sign for less, that means you can't sign them to a one year max for trading purposes for example. that being the case i don't like that.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 13, 2014 15:03:50 GMT -6
so if a guy you have birds on offers to re-sign for less, that means you can't sign them to a one year max for trading purposes for example. that being the case i don't like that. yeah you can, all the resignings are declined by odin. if you accept them im guessing the get edited onto your roster. |
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