Post by Face-in on Jun 1, 2017 18:46:58 GMT -6
After Day 60
Rookies
1. Colin Sexton-His scoring is a little inflated due to the Suns having wings that won’t shoot, but as a PG prospect he’s nearly perfect. His scoring is obviously great, the low 3P% should grow naturally, his handles are elite for a rookie, low assists are nice because he should always get his shots up. The .6 BPG gives him the chance to become an elite defender, but a lot will depend on TC. Barring disaster he should become a top 10 all-time player and may be the prince that was promised to bring us to 5.0!
2. Luka Doncic
-Even as great as Sexton is, I wouldn’t fault anyone for valuing Doncic more due to the league’s depth at PG (Seriously, every single team in the playoffs right now has a good starting PG (even the Warriors with Dick McGuire, now that he is actually close to above average). Once Doncic improves his shot blocking he should become one of the best all-around players in the league. I know he’s PG eligible now, but I don’t think that’s maximizing his worth with league PG depth and because he’d probably average more than 3.5-4 TOs a game. Iirc he went +5 in TC which means he probably had the teenage dream TC.
3. Chris Taft
-I am not an ageist and Shareef Abdur-Rahim has proven that players can still be effective in their 40s. Also, I bet 20s gave him as much potential as he could to prolong Taft’s career. Taft has only played 20 games, but so far, his only flaw looks to be shot blocking. With some points and TC love he could get to 3 a game by his 35th birthday. Taft would have made a great SF to cheese with.
4. Lonnie Walker
-Robert Covington reincarnated.
-Should also be mentioned, the Suns are stacked!
t5. Zach Collins
-I was a Zach Collins fan before the draft and really like his long-term potential as a SF. With starter’s minutes, he’d probably be putting up 16-18 PPG, 8-9 boards and a couple blocks. His FG% is mediocre right now and he doesn’t take many threes so he may never become a huge scorer, but should always be a productive defender and rebounder.
t5.Kyle Guy
-I wanted to get him in here because he’s shooting really well (48.4 FG%) and has been decent coming off the bench for the Cavs. He’s got a chance to become a good starting PG. Hopefully he isn't the next Kirk Hinrich.
MVP
1. Lebron James
-Outside of his shooting percentages and assists, Lebron’s numbers are down across the board. Doesn’t matter, he’s still the best player in the league and carrying the Kings to the 5th seed in the West.
2. Reggie Theus
-Still playing out of his mind with the Heat and leading them to the best record in the East. It may break me If he leads the Heat to the finals for the third time in a row.
3. Rashard Lewis
-Having his typical season, averaging 34.8 PPG on 47.7% shooting, 10.5 RPG, 2.1 SPG and 1.4 BPG.
4. Markelle Fultz
-Was having an amazing year before he got hurt. Fultz is now right there with Carter as the best shooting guard in the league. Vince may be the better and more efficient scorer, but Fultz gives you much better defense and while averaging 30 a game.
5. Kris Dunn
-Possibly the best defensive PG in the league, I get that blocks are more important than steals, but 3.2 SPG a game is ridiculous. He’s averaging 28.4 PPG, his shooting percentages of 48.8/94.8/42.6 make up for the 3.1 TOPG. He's already won four POTWs and a POTM so he’s got a great shot at the software’s vote.
Contenders
1. Lakers
-Billups and Dirk are really good, Williams and Wade are good, Allen and Humphrey are two of the better D/R bigs and Jiri Welch is nice third wing off the bench. This is the most balanced and one of the deepest teams in the league. They shouldn't have any trouble getting out of the first round this year.
2. Heat
-Theus and Simmons form one of the best duos in the league, Stoudemire has taken another leap and Chandler/Jimmy Jackson are nice compliments. Depth looks to be their only weakness.
3. Royals
-Paul/Brooks/Lewis is still a very good perimeter trio. Jones and Olowokandi are playing well, but I see that Ward is trying to limit their minutes likely due to them shooting too much. Hopefully they keep this up in the postseason and don’t tank a playoff series.
4. Pacers
-Zzzzzz, another boring Heebs team. I do love their shot blocking and they are the deepest team in the league. The only thing missing from this team is that superstar wing because Nikoloz Tskitishvili isn’t there yet.
5. Spurs
-The defending champs and they have the best point differential in the league. I’m not really sure why though, the only things they seem to do at an elite level are rebound and not turn it over. None of their starters are particularly efficient when you consider that Jamison doesn't shoot threes. Ball seems to have that clutch rating so they have a good shot to repeat.
6. Raptors
-Arenas, Fultz and T-Mac are all averaging at least 30 PPG yet, they are only 25-16 with a point differential of 3.7. Their bigs must be killing them. Pete could probably use Steve Kerr to get a better big, but Kerr looks like his replacement for Arenas. You know who would have been a great fit for this team, Slava Medvedenko.
7. Hawks
-I like this team’s future with Ntilikina and Morris, but don’t think they are ready to contend for titles just yet. They don’t really have a set third scorer and MKG can’t be counted on to average 20-25 PPG in a series. I’d like their title chances much more if they can find an upgrade for Bynum.
8. Sonics
-Team has lost 4 in a row. Ridnour, Pierce and Slava are playing really well and having the best seasons of their careers. Havlicek and Bosh aren’t shooting as well they normally do. I really need to quit being lazy and get some more front court depth.
9. Kings
-I like this team now more than I have in years past because Tony Wroten has become much better, but Middleton and Keon Clark as their starting SG and PF are holding this team back. 2Poor still has those Grizzlies futures to use in trades, so they could make huge leap with a trade or two.
10. Jazz
-Dunn is an MVP candidate, Granger is back to scoring with volume and I liked the Eddie Griffin trade. Jaylen Brown has been meh so far and David West is absolutely killing this team by averaging 16.8 PPG on 39.3% shooting. Never thought I’d say this, but get Kwame Brown in there.
Underrated
1. Ben Bentl-We don’t give this guy enough respect when we talk about best wings in the league. He’s averaging 27 PPG on 47.2% shooting, 10 RPG, 1.6 SPG and 1.6 BPG. I get why Kn made that trade where he used Bentl and 1.7 to move up to take Yao, but it hasn’t really worked out.
2. Tony Wroten
-He still doesn’t play any defense, but he’s now averaging 28 PPG on 49.5% shooting. He now reminds me a lot of Butch Lee.
3. Chris Morris
-He’s become a stud seemingly out of nowhere. He’s what Mitch Richmond was expected to be this year. Morris is averaging 28.9 PPG on 50.8/86.8/43.6 shooting. He rebounds really well, averaging 8.3 as a SG, plays decent defense and doesn’t turn it over.
4. Chandler Chandler
-He’s played a key role in helping the Spurs get to the finals two straight seasons, so he must be better than we give him credit for. He seems to always average at least 3.5 BPG and rebounds pretty well. HIs shooting never kills you since he shoots around 42% and averages only 12 PPG.
5. Slava Medvedenko/Paul Pierce
-I rarely ever pimp my players, but Slava and Pierce don’t get enough love around the league. Slava is having a ridiculous season, averaging 14 PPG on 49.9% shooting, 13.6 RPG, 4.2 BPG and 1 SPG. I don’t expect him to continue that shooting but he should remain one of the best bigs in the league defensively. Pierce never gets any love when we talk about SFs, he consistently averages 17-20 PPG on decent percentages, 8 rebounds and blocks more than 1.5 shots a game.
With that said, both are OTB for an SF upgrade. Text or PM me if you’ve got what I’m looking for.
Overrated
1.Caron Butler-I’m as guilty as anyone when it comes to overrating Caron. I completely understood Odin turning down a potential Lue deal in order to keep Caron. He’s not terrible but doesn’t look anything close to a future star like most of us thought he’d become. He doesn’t score with too much volume, only decent shooting percentages, below average rebounder and doesn’t block shots. He and Van Horn have had some brutal TCs.
2. Chet Walker
-Not earning his max with those 3.5 TOs and 44.4% shooting. The Mavs would probably be much better than 19-25 if Walker and Sim Soup were as good as we had thought.
3. Jaylen Brown
-We were fooled by this guy last year when he improved his shooting to 47.3%, he’s now back down to his career average, not playing much defense, and turning it over 2.7 times a game. Brown still has potential, but right now he’s a shittier version of Josh Jackson.
4. Jayson Tatum
-I haven’t ever been a fan because he’s been a one-dimensional scorer that doesn’t score at an elite level. He’s now in the role he was meant to play as a third wing.
5. Salado Alvarado
-20 PPG and 12 RPG are nice but the 2.6 BPG aren’t enough to earn the credit we give him as a prospect. Those are nearly identical numbers to Ike Diogu’s right now. Sim Soup needs some upgrades.
Who I'd Like to Interview Next
1. Majic 2. MistleTacoe
3. SPL
4. Mad King
5. lip
-Let me know if any of you guys want a chance for that 5k.
My Worst Moves
1. Not extending Stanley Robinson’s rookie deal-In 3005 I drafted Stanley Robinson (SF 6'8'' 216 21 B- C- C- B- C+ B) at 2.8 but did not extend him due to stupidity, laziness and ignorance. He went on to go +5 or possibly even +6 with his first TC and became one of the best wings of all-time. Because I didn’t have his bird rights and I was screwed, had to use him in a trade to get Kevin Willis (more on him below).
Those numbers may not seem all that great compared to what we often see now, but were insane before we began to have some inflation. Robinson was the best player on that Rockets dynasty.
2. Passing on Gary Bossert to draft David Robinson
-In the 3010 draft, I took David Robinson over Gary Bossert (Odin’s favorite sim player and he guaranteed that Bossert would be an HOF level player) all because Robinson was going to sit out two years before coming into the league. Tanking was a lot more competitive back then and I was aggressively trying to guarantee that I would have 1.1 odds for the following two drafts with the 07 (Durant and Oden) and 96 (Iverson, Marbury, Kobe) classes. I was worried that Bossert would win me too many games, hurt my lotto odds and I wouldn’t be able to draft a young big three. This was really dumb because even one great player won’t kill a tank, you don’t need a top 4 pick to find a elite talent and most importantly wings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigs. Robinson did turn out to be a very good big, but Bossert, like Stanley Robinson is an all-time great player.
Bossert
Robinson
3. The 3023 draft, the whole damn thing!
I had 4 of the top 16 picks in the greatest draft we’ve ever had and came away with:
1.3 – Steve Smith – huge bust
1.11 – Kenny Anderson – became a good PG, but I used him in a trade way before he reached his potential
1.13 – Rick Fox – awful player that was out the league a couple years after his rookie deal
1.16 – Stanley Roberts – became a decent D/R big but was taken two picks before the great George Ackles
Looking at the top 20 picks, this was as bad a combo that I could have possibly have. I couldn’t have picked a worse group of players if I were trying.
What happened with that Steve Smith pick at 1.3. I made that pick on the night that Bankz, Trofie and I did a drunk podcast. During the mock draft on the pod, I picked Sim Dump at 1.2 and was completely serious in thinking he was a great prospect. Trofie and Bankz started laughing at me and told me that I was sandbagging/bullshitting because this draft had a clear top 3 of LJ, Lockhart and Steve Smith. I began to doubt myself and thought maybe I had foolishly undervalued Smith. Sure enough, my pick fell to 1.3 and LJ/Lockhart were already off the board. I thought about taking Dump, but was worried that Soup may have gone out his way to bust him since I was the one that paid to create Sim Dump and this was another opportunity to laugh at real Dump. I thought about taking Mutombo, but didn’t want to take a big that high and was worried he’d be another Hasheem Thabeet or Kevin Willis. I thought about Terrell Brandon, but 1.3 seemed too high. So I was thinking that I was playing it safe and taking what’s supposed to be a clear top 3 prospect, worst case scenario he’ll be a big scorer that I can play next to Jimmy Chitwood or use as a super sub.
The lessons here are don’t drink and draft, always trust your first instinct and don’t value the opinion of a GM that’s tanked for seven straight seasons due to drafting bust after bust.
At least I'm not the only one to make a mistake with Steve Smith.
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4. Trading Alvaro Teheran for Bismack Biyombo
-In 3035, I traded Alvaro Teheran for Bismack Biyombo and a future Kings first. After the trade Teheran went from being pretty good to one of the best bigs in the league. And Bismack Biyombo became total trash, his shot blocking was already in the midst of a drastic decline (3.5 BPG in 3030 to 2.1 BPG in 3034). My reasoning at the time for the trade was that I was likely going to run into cap issues and Teheran seemed like the most expendable because he was 30 and I thought he peaked. Also, because I was really high on PJ Brown (all-time terrible on/off) and thought he could make up for Teheran’s lost production.
I did end up being 100% correct on one thing with this trade.
5. The development of Kevin Willis
-Kevin Willis was the type of big that average 12 PPG, 13 RPG and 3.5 BPG, but would shoot around 40%. I decided to put +8 into his inside scoring because I thought that bigs were only valuable if they scored 2 PPG or 20 PPG and it was pointless for them to be in between. After the +8, Willis ended up becoming even more of a disaster on offense and would regularly shoot 4-21 which almost always ended with a loss. Poor Kevin had the value of his defense/rebounding wiped out and he became a laughing stock within the league.
@dumptime feel free to go ahead and bump my old trades to find anything that I may have forgotten about.
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