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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 14:18:43 GMT -6
Who would have known that Ankyl, habitual rule line stepped, would be so anal about rules once he has a little power?
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Post by SPL on Jun 7, 2017 14:19:00 GMT -6
There are degrees to rules violations. Please believe when I say I'm trying to be lenient here, but if a rules violation hurts balance that requires me to be strict. I'm not mad about it though. Admin deaths happen sometimes. I do think the rule as posted pretty clearly prohibits what you did, but I will write that out even more clearly going forward. there are different degrees to violations sure, but there's only one degree of punishment. everything is the same if it is policed the same. This argument sounds like it is out of the playbook of defending Alabama recruiting violations |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 14:19:07 GMT -6
Who would have known that Ankyl, habitual rule line stepper, would be so anal about rules once he has a little power?
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jun 7, 2017 14:19:15 GMT -6
I think Mafiodin is just trying to take out a civilian on his way out
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 14:20:08 GMT -6
There are degrees to rules violations. Please believe when I say I'm trying to be lenient here, but if a rules violation hurts balance that requires me to be strict. I'm not mad about it though. Admin deaths happen sometimes. I do think the rule as posted pretty clearly prohibits what you did, but I will write that out even more clearly going forward. there are different degrees to violations sure, but there's only one degree of punishment. everything is the same if it is policed the same. There are different degrees of punishment. |
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Post by Odin on Jun 7, 2017 14:20:21 GMT -6
i mean if what i posted doesn't convince you i'm not mafia then it can't be done. kill me.
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 14:24:50 GMT -6
Odin - Civ has been admin killed.
Day 1 continues
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:29 GMT -6
god damn it odin
get it together
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Post by Majic on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:51 GMT -6
well fuck me
i change my vote to Heebs
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:54 GMT -6
i mean if what i posted doesn't convince you i'm not mafia then it can't be done. kill me. And this is why I had to drop the axe, unfortunately. Posting the pm was rather rock solid evidence that your were indeed a civ. Mainly because you did not receive a Civ pm in game 1. |
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Post by Heebs on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:58 GMT -6
Who would have known that Ankyl, habitual rule line stepper, would be so anal about rules once he has a little power? I think Ankly is just trying to manage a game that is fair and fun. Despite my snarky shouts, I think he's done a good job of taking feedback from the players after game 1 and implementing changes without making administrating the game a democracy. |
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:27:19 GMT -6
3 TimPig - 20s, Eric, Soup
2 Herb Simon - Fecta, SPL
1 Pete - Canes
1 Fecta - JHB
1 Billy King - gbg
1 20s - Taco
Yet to vote: herb simon (REVOKED), majic, delap Pete, Yawn, TimPig, Billy King
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:27:24 GMT -6
This makes Herb look pretty questionable at this point since he was railing so hard against odin
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jun 7, 2017 14:28:06 GMT -6
i mean if what i posted doesn't convince you i'm not mafia then it can't be done. kill me. And this is why I had to drop the axe, unfortunately. Posting the pm was rather rock solid evidence that your were indeed a civ. Mainly because you did not receive a Civ pm in game 1. It would also be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM. |
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Post by ANK1990 on Jun 7, 2017 14:29:02 GMT -6
Really not too peeved with Odin. This was bound to happen at some point, and I really didn't perceive what Odin did as malicious at all. Sucks but it happens.
He can obviously play in game 3 if he wishes.
But in any case, let's move on. It's done.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:29:59 GMT -6
changing my vote to fecta based on his last post
sounds like he has never seen a civ PM
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:30:02 GMT -6
dead civs pm is gonna be liiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Post by Heebs on Jun 7, 2017 14:30:49 GMT -6
This makes Herb look pretty questionable at this point since he was railing so hard against odin That was always the risk. I figured if I was wrong I'd be killed day 2. I stand by my logic though. I genuinely don't understand how Odin goes from "we killed Heebs first because we wanted to get rid of the most competent people early" to being a civilian and voting for me day 1. My theory is out of the water and I am voting for TimPig unless someone, through their actions or words, convinces me otherwise. |
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:30:49 GMT -6
changing my vote to fecta based on his last post sounds like he has never seen a civ PM fecta by definition saw a civ PM in game one.......... |
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Post by Heebs on Jun 7, 2017 14:31:56 GMT -6
Also, I am sorry Odin. I know how much it sucks to die early. I was wrong and I hope you accept my genuine apology.
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:32:08 GMT -6
3 TimPig - Eric, Soup, herb simon
3 Herb Simon - Fecta, SPL, majic
2 Fecta - JHB, 20s
1 Pete - Canes
1 Billy King - gbg
1 20s - Taco
Yet to vote: delap, Pete, Yawn, TimPig, Billy King
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:32:13 GMT -6
changing my vote to fecta based on his last post sounds like he has never seen a civ PM fecta by definition saw a civ PM in game one.......... he didn't play game one am i missing something with your post? |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jun 7, 2017 14:33:18 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm
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Post by eric on Jun 7, 2017 14:35:45 GMT -6
fecta by definition saw a civ PM in game one.......... he didn't play game one am i missing something with your post? my mistake |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 7, 2017 14:35:59 GMT -6
Also, in case it helps other civilians, I am hereby making my vote for Odin irrevocable even though it could save my skin to switch to TimPig. I acknowledge 20s logic, which I think is solid, for the TimPig vote. But I think where we have a logical reason to affirmatively believe a player is mafia, we shouldn't use the "least helpful" model to determine who is executed. I guess irrevocable doesn't mean what it used to. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:42 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:50 GMT -6
A lot of posts I wish I could like just now.
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Post by SPL on Jun 7, 2017 14:40:53 GMT -6
Also, in case it helps other civilians, I am hereby making my vote for Odin irrevocable even though it could save my skin to switch to TimPig. I acknowledge 20s logic, which I think is solid, for the TimPig vote. But I think where we have a logical reason to affirmatively believe a player is mafia, we shouldn't use the "least helpful" model to determine who is executed. I guess irrevocable doesn't mean what it used to. like |
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Post by TimPig on Jun 7, 2017 14:41:50 GMT -6
he saw Odin's civ PM, so he did see A civ pm I'm talking about how he said "it would be really easy to just edit something to look like a civ PM" which means he thought it was possible Odin wrote that himself. Sure you could make your own, but it wouldn't be the same as the one ank sends unless you have seen what he sends. That means: - He didn't realize what Odin posted matched exactly what the civ PM was
- He didn't get a civ PM this game
I could obviously be wrong and fecta did get a civ PM this time and still thinks someone who has never seen a civ PM could just edit one to look like the one ank sends, but this reveal of info makes me think there is a real chance fecta did not get a civ PM this round. And he was in my tier 4 of noobs anyway, so I see no risk in switching from TimPig to him. My vote is for Fecta. |
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Post by Heebs on Jun 7, 2017 14:42:40 GMT -6
Also, in case it helps other civilians, I am hereby making my vote for Odin irrevocable even though it could save my skin to switch to TimPig. I acknowledge 20s logic, which I think is solid, for the TimPig vote. But I think where we have a logical reason to affirmatively believe a player is mafia, we shouldn't use the "least helpful" model to determine who is executed. I guess irrevocable doesn't mean what it used to. When I said that there was no way to foresee Odin being eliminated before night. |
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