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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:03:35 GMT -6
I'm still playing...
Just trying to figure out this game because it's very confusing.
It seems like the two mafia Suspects at this point would be Odin and Soup?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:04:24 GMT -6
If the veteran was on alert like JHB said he was, then he would have killed anyone who came to see him. I am pretty sure that includes the bus driver, which could be why Tim is dead. It's not 100% sure since JHB could be lying, but it's a possibility.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 1, 2017 12:05:22 GMT -6
If the veteran was on alert like JHB said he was, then he would have killed anyone who came to see him. I am pretty sure that includes the bus driver, which could be why Tim is dead. It's not 100% sure since JHB could be lying, but it's a possibility. BK confirmed that the bus driver would be killed if he visited the veteran while the veteran was on alert |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 1, 2017 12:05:33 GMT -6
interesting. We can't be sure that's the reason why the mafia hit failed, but it may be worth it to vote for Soup this round anyway. That's the best piece of intelligence we have. Another possibility could be that SPL is a jester, is feeding us bad intel, and hoping that if we vote for Soup as a civ, we'll come after him the next day and lynch him it's better than nothing, but before we go down that road we need to make sure that the mafia hit failed. JHB did you protect yourself last night or not? I would recommend reading the thread. And even if I'm lying, what is the mafia going to do, come out and admit to their hit having worked and out themselves to prove I'm not the town veteran? Rest assured, I'm the town veteran and I have two more alerts to use which I plan to use on nights 2 and 3. With all the powers available in this game it makes no sense for me to hold on to this ability, so I'm trying to be clear as possible about it so no civs die unnecessarily. |
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Post by rv12 on Aug 1, 2017 12:07:18 GMT -6
Which role would allow him to protect himself? If I have this right. It would be Veteran You're right, I missed this in the early explanations. " Veteran is immune at night when he is on alert. Everyone visiting him on a night he is on alert will die." |
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:08:45 GMT -6
I tend to believe JHB...
If he's lying about being the veteran that could easily be called out I would think. To this point no one has claimed to be the Veteran
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:10:14 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death.
But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys.
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:12:01 GMT -6
Looking at the OP we may have an arsonist
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 1, 2017 12:13:27 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death. But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys. the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 1, 2017 12:16:40 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death. But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys. the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. this all makes sense. the hesitation is all these new roles/skills. It almost feels like we are playing a completely different game and it is making me hesitant in my thinking |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 1, 2017 12:17:53 GMT -6
if you're not sure about somehting like how the roles interact with each other, ask questions. That's what we've been doing in this thread most of the morning, and BK has been helpful in answering them for us.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 1, 2017 12:18:13 GMT -6
Just based on the probabilities, I'm more inclined to believe that the mafia hit someone who couldn't be killed at night than that spl is telling the truth that he's the escort, he did in fact visit Soup, and Soup was a hitting mafia member who had his move blocked.
Bankz, also remember there are three town randoms so there could be multiple veterans, civs, investigators, whatever
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:06 GMT -6
if you're not sure about somehting like how the roles interact with each other, ask questions. That's what we've been doing in this thread most of the morning, and BK has been helpful in answering them for us. so far everything has been answered. My thing is that I am spending way too much time trying to figure out all the possible ways the mafia hit wouldn't work. there is really no way to be sure that I have thought of them all. |
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:32 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death. But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys. the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. Couldn't we also have a Arsonist in the game? He is able to pour gasoline on a targets and set them on fire in a time of his choosing. So he could've poured gas on someone last night and wait to lite |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:40 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death. But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys. the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. If anyone was alerted that the Doctor saved them or that their bullet proof vest saved them, the mafia already knows that you're not in the mafia with them and targeted you once. It would be nice if you came forward to let us know that you were the target. You wouldn't even have to reveal your role, you can just let us know you were targeted and survived. That would at least let us know more about Soup as a potential mafia member. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 1, 2017 12:19:44 GMT -6
Bankz, also remember there are three town randoms so there could be multiple veterans, civs, investigators, whatever is this possible BK? |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 1, 2017 12:20:46 GMT -6
Arsonist is independent of the mafia. If there is an arsonist in the game, then their actions would've been independent of whatever the mafia does. So we would still expect to have gotten a mafia death last night
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:21:12 GMT -6
if you're not sure about somehting like how the roles interact with each other, ask questions. That's what we've been doing in this thread most of the morning, and BK has been helpful in answering them for us. so far everything has been answered. My thing is that I am spending way too much time trying to figure out all the possible ways the mafia hit wouldn't work. there is really no way to be sure that I have thought of them all. You were super suspect Day 1... and called out on it. And today you are acting just like you did the last time you where mafia by playing the lost middle man. You are definitely on my Mafia list |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 1, 2017 12:21:19 GMT -6
Bankz, also remember there are three town randoms so there could be multiple veterans, civs, investigators, whatever is this possible BK? Yes, we could have 4 veterans etc. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:22:33 GMT -6
the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. Couldn't we also have a Arsonist in the game? He is able to pour gasoline on a targets and set them on fire in a time of his choosing. So he could've poured gas on someone last night and wait to lite We probably do, but I suppose Soup could be the Town - evil role, too. Maybe that's why we didn't have a axe murder or mass murder situation. |
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:22:54 GMT -6
Arsonist is independent of the mafia. If there is an arsonist in the game, then their actions would've been independent of whatever the mafia does. So we would still expect to have gotten a mafia death last night Ok I didn't know that... So that would mean SPL visit to Soup may in fact be what stopped the mafia hit meaning Soup is Mafia |
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Post by Bankz on Aug 1, 2017 12:24:01 GMT -6
This original game is such a heavy lean for a mafia win based on how confusing it is for the town learning the roles on the fly.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:25:14 GMT -6
BK clarify the invulnerability of the neutral- evils. Are they invulnerable to the escort, or can they just not be killed at night?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:30:24 GMT -6
@billyking
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Post by gbgalla24 on Aug 1, 2017 12:30:36 GMT -6
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 1, 2017 12:33:10 GMT -6
This original game is such a heavy lean for a mafia win based on how confusing it is for the town learning the roles on the fly. It's more of just a shit show. The mafia bitch about how it's against them. Game 2 will be smooth as butter once the confusion is gone -- when you start getting people thinking strategically about their roles and how they interact it gets really fun. By the way people, if you wanna practice the roles or the rules check out Town of Salem. You've probably heard of it. |
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Post by SPL on Aug 1, 2017 12:34:16 GMT -6
It's believable that JHB is the vet and that tim came to visit him. Leading to Tims death. But why is there no kill from the mafia/bad guys. the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. If a hit was tried and it was unsuccessful for a reason we would have been notified |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 1, 2017 12:36:52 GMT -6
the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. If a hit was tried and it was unsuccessful for a reason we would have been notified We as in "we the mafia"?  I believe Billy said only the person who attempted the hit would be notified that it failed. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 1, 2017 12:37:08 GMT -6
the most likely possibility at this point is that SPL, who has claimed to be the escort, "distracted" soup last night. If Soup was the hitting mafia member, and was distracted by the escort, then he would've been unable to make the kill. Hence why we only had one death. The other possibility is that the mafia tried to hit a civ who used a bulletproof vest or one of the neutral roles that is invulnerable at night. If a hit was tried and it was unsuccessful for a reason we would have been notified This is not true. Only the person who was being hit would be informed they were attacked. |
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 1, 2017 12:38:18 GMT -6
BK clarify the invulnerability of the neutral- evils. Are they invulnerable to the escort, or can they just not be killed at night? Night immunerefers to not dying at night. Being immune to roleblock is different, and only the GF is immune in this setup. |
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