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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 2, 2017 9:04:19 GMT -6
well you had a confirmed role so the only way to convince people that you weren't who you said you were was to claim it ourselves and put a target on our back. "I think it's pretty transparent JHB is a neutral evil trying to add day immunity to his night immunity by claiming a civ role." Boom. Until the three randoms were fleshed out there was no confirmation there weren't two veterans and I could have been voted out by then. Let's be honest. No one is buying that argument from canes.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 9:04:34 GMT -6
Yes it does.
"Well there's three town randoms so we don't know there isn't another vet out there."
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 2, 2017 9:04:54 GMT -6
There were plenty of possible solutions that would've prevented the town from being as certain in their roles.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 2, 2017 9:05:04 GMT -6
I posted this in shout but I think the game would be improved by just posting the list of all possible roles/roles included in the pool and then randomly assigning every non mafioso a role. Therefore there would be no certainty as to if a particular role existed and no certainty that there could only be one veteran, for example. So much role certainty in this game made it pretty easy once a few things fell into place. there also shouldn't be certainty on what mafia are in the game.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Aug 2, 2017 9:06:19 GMT -6
"I think it's pretty transparent JHB is a neutral evil trying to add day immunity to his night immunity by claiming a civ role." Boom. Until the three randoms were fleshed out there was no confirmation there weren't two veterans and I could have been voted out by then. Let's be honest. No one is buying that argument from canes. I was right about pete and people didn't want to buy it.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 9:07:29 GMT -6
Let's be honest. No one is buying that argument from canes. I was right about pete and people didn't want to buy it. lol Champion Canes
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 2, 2017 9:10:01 GMT -6
Let's be honest. No one is buying that argument from canes. I was right about pete and people didn't want to buy it. in doing so you essentially handed town the win. When they killed Delap they knew you and I were lying. if you had taken the death and let me live w/o suspicion, the town would've been really worried about the arsonist and Soup probably could've gotten through another round or two. And I wasn't going to douse soup so if I was able to take out 3 or 4 town Soup would've had a chance to win it for mafia
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 2, 2017 9:10:56 GMT -6
I posted this in shout but I think the game would be improved by just posting the list of all possible roles/roles included in the pool and then randomly assigning every non mafioso a role. Therefore there would be no certainty as to if a particular role existed and no certainty that there could only be one veteran, for example. So much role certainty in this game made it pretty easy once a few things fell into place. This is basically what will happen in games I host from now on. They will be slightly more specific than complete random. I wanted to do that this game, but wanted to introduce people to the roles themselves first. We see how much confusion there was.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 9:15:14 GMT -6
BKay Jewelers what are your thoughts as an unbiased observer on how people played
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 2, 2017 9:17:24 GMT -6
BKay Jewelers what are your thoughts as an unbiased observer on how people played I think the Odin debacle and not letting the GF attack at night sealed it for the mafia early. If Pete had picked a better douse night one, or if fecta had come up as the jester kill instead of SPL he could've won. Canes pulled a BK day one.
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Post by Odin on Aug 2, 2017 9:17:53 GMT -6
Using the hide would have meant not killing or investigating
Never would be used
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Post by Heebs on Aug 2, 2017 9:19:16 GMT -6
Also thanks to Canes for outing himself on Day 1 [bankz]I knew Canes was mafia from day 1. I voted for him. You guys are terrible for not following my vote. It should have been clear on Day 1 that I was on to him as mafia when I didn't even change my vote to save myself. You guys are bad and should be ashamed of how much better I am at this than all of you.[/bankz]
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 2, 2017 9:20:54 GMT -6
Yeah, I can see how allowing godfather to make the kills would've balanced things a little better. Especially once one mafia was killed, since Canes wasn't able to investigate anyone after night 1 if the mafia wanted to make a kill
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 2, 2017 9:31:50 GMT -6
Why was bankz alllowed to 1. Post long after the day deadline 2. Kill himself 3. Reveal his role in doing so 4. Text me about it 5. Continue the game after doing 1-4 bk
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 2, 2017 9:33:34 GMT -6
Why was bankz alllowed to 1. Post long after the day deadline 2. Kill himself 3. Reveal his role in doing so 4. Text me about it 5. Continue the game after doing 1-4 bkLots of people posted after the deadline that day. You can't kill yourself. As far as I was concerned that could've just been faking jester. The way to kill yourself is to tell me you commit suicide at night and I kill you. You can reveal your role at any time. Texting about it is not okay. But you cunts refuse to stop doing it even for these games, so whaddya gonna do.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 2, 2017 9:42:41 GMT -6
Lots of people posted after the deadline that day. You can't kill yourself. As far as I was concerned that could've just been faking jester. The way to kill yourself is to tell me you commit suicide at night and I kill you. You can reveal your role at any time. Texting about it is not okay. But you cunts refuse to stop doing it even for these games, so whaddya gonna do. . Lots meaning 3. And several by one person. Him killing himself and revealing himself as civ gave the town an advantage when you alllowed him to stay in the game. Any excuse you have for that shit is just lip service.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 2, 2017 9:49:50 GMT -6
Lots of people posted after the deadline that day. You can't kill yourself. As far as I was concerned that could've just been faking jester. The way to kill yourself is to tell me you commit suicide at night and I kill you. You can reveal your role at any time. Texting about it is not okay. But you cunts refuse to stop doing it even for these games, so whaddya gonna do. . Lots meaning 3. And several by one person. Him killing himself and revealing himself as civ gave the town an advantage when you alllowed him to stay in the game. Any excuse you have for that shit is just lip service. I mean a jester could easily post that entire bankz paragraph. Anyone can fake reveal themselves. By letting him continue playing I wasn't confirming his role. But whatever dude.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 9:51:37 GMT -6
Yeah I was literally on board to murder Bankz because I thought he was Godfather at the end of the next day
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 2, 2017 10:26:23 GMT -6
. Lots meaning 3. And several by one person. Him killing himself and revealing himself as civ gave the town an advantage when you alllowed him to stay in the game. Any excuse you have for that shit is just lip service. I mean a jester could easily post that entire bankz paragraph. Anyone can fake reveal themselves. By letting him continue playing I wasn't confirming his role. But whatever dude. Yeah rules man. Whatever dude, who needs them
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Post by Souper Troopers on Aug 2, 2017 10:29:01 GMT -6
Yeah I was literally on board to murder Bankz because I thought he was Godfather at the end of the next day How? He was Gbg's investigation night one. Was told he was civ or Godfather. Him offing himself as The Godfather would be the worst move since bk posting his Benedict Arnold pm. Y'all were able to use a dumb game rule to escort bankz and 100% verify him as civilian.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 10:33:44 GMT -6
Because I took it as a joke and he said civilian and his role was citizen
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Post by Bankz on Aug 2, 2017 10:37:27 GMT -6
A wild Hippocrate is on the loose and that fucker is salty. Be careful everyone.
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Aug 2, 2017 10:38:43 GMT -6
Hypocrite*
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Post by Bankz on Aug 2, 2017 10:40:36 GMT -6
It's something from years ago...
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Post by Bankz on Aug 2, 2017 10:41:09 GMT -6
Yeah I was literally on board to murder Bankz because I thought he was Godfather at the end of the next day How? He was Gbg's investigation night one. Was told he was civ or Godfather. Him offing himself as The Godfather would be the worst move since bk posting his Benedict Arnold pm. Y'all were able to use a dumb game rule to escort bankz and 100% verify him as civilian. You're Mad
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Post by Heebs on Aug 2, 2017 10:42:02 GMT -6
Question for the group.
Would Soup GM'ing again be a good or a bad thing?
We can see that Soup is a sore loser. And we all know he'd struggle as a GM without Cheat Code.
Would him losing all of the time drive him to depression/rage?
Or would he eventually learn how to lose with a little dignity?
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 2, 2017 10:42:55 GMT -6
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Post by Bankz on Aug 2, 2017 10:43:42 GMT -6
Seems like the Mafia fucked up by not getting clarification on my status in the game. So now they want to blame BK for that mistake. Lots of sub par work from the Mafia this game.
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Post by BKay Jewelers on Aug 2, 2017 10:47:40 GMT -6
Yeah I was literally on board to murder Bankz because I thought he was Godfather at the end of the next day How? He was Gbg's investigation night one. Was told he was civ or Godfather. Him offing himself as The Godfather would be the worst move since bk posting his Benedict Arnold pm. Y'all were able to use a dumb game rule to escort bankz and 100% verify him as civilian. I disagree with escort detecting godfather is dumb. That's definitely a keeper rule otherwise there's no way to detect him as town.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 2, 2017 10:50:42 GMT -6
there would be other ways in a game like this with so many roles, but you'd probably have to have a vigilante or someone on town's side that could do some killing
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