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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 10:54:27 GMT -6
Oh, so they kill the person AND the people that visit them, not just the people that visit them. I guess that makes sense. So we could have a mass murderer, but then we have to ask why there wasn't a death night 1. More likely we have an arsonist. seems highly unlikely that it is a Mass murderer that killed both that means there would be another night that the Mafia did not kill someone, which seems impossible it's impossible that a mass murderer killed both, neither role could visit the other. It is possible that a mass murderer or serial killer killed one while the mafia killed another
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 10:55:22 GMT -6
Souper Troopers how did the bodies look when they were found? Were there bullet holes? Were they charred?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 28, 2017 10:56:05 GMT -6
I would specify if someone died by fire. That’s pretty distinct.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 28, 2017 10:57:38 GMT -6
I would specify if someone died by fire. That’s pretty distinct. but not between bullet holes and stabbing/chainsaw or whatever those other neutral evil roles do?
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 10:59:09 GMT -6
who else was bussed with JHB? Come forward.
(maybe it was skrouse or BK, though)
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Post by SPL on Sept 28, 2017 11:03:11 GMT -6
Mass murderer kills people that visit someone. I don't think we have a mass murderer based on last night's deaths. Could be a serial killer, but there wasn't a kill night 1. More likely we have a sniper. Mass Murderer can kill one per night, but if that one person is visited by anyone else they kill them too. So it's an option here. but the 2 people that died could not visit each other. So they could not have been killed together.
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 11:03:14 GMT -6
beep beep i was the 2nd person bussed
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:04:04 GMT -6
Night one Pete was bussed with BK.
Night two BK died and JHB says he was bussed.
It's possible the bus driver was trying to switch "high value" targets he thought the mafia would be going after with Billy who he saw as a "low value target". And then the mafia tried to hit JHB last night and ended up killing BK. Or the same possibility with skrouse, of course. We just know BK was the choice Night 1.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 28, 2017 11:04:17 GMT -6
I would specify if someone died by fire. That’s pretty distinct. but not between bullet holes and stabbing/chainsaw or whatever those other neutral evil roles do? Veteran/sniper/vigilante are the only ones that would be told they were killed with bullets. Serial killer knives Arsonist fire Mass murderer/granny/mafia nothing
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:04:40 GMT -6
beep beep i was the 2nd person bussed Lol there goes my theory. Disregard previous post
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 28, 2017 11:06:22 GMT -6
beep beep i was the 2nd person bussed Lol there goes my theory. Disregard previous post Or maybe the bus driver doesn't think much of Majic
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:07:24 GMT -6
Lol there goes my theory. Disregard previous post Or maybe the bus driver doesn't think much of Majic Bus driver could still be using that strategy, I just mean that wasn't the cause of death for BK or skrouse. Sounds like they were specifically targeted.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:09:37 GMT -6
The frustrating part about SPL's granny claim is he could be the mass murderer or mafia and there isn't really anything we could do about it unless we lynched him during the day.
However, if he is actually granny we look dumb af lynching a townie. But he is nothing more than vanilla civ at this point if he is granny and much more dangerous if he is mass murderer or mafia. I almost think it's worth the risk.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 11:09:59 GMT -6
but not between bullet holes and stabbing/chainsaw or whatever those other neutral evil roles do? Veteran/sniper/vigilante are the only ones that would be told they were killed with bullets. Serial killer knives Arsonist fire Mass murderer/granny/mafia nothing So we have a mass murderer it would seem. That makes night one more interesting...
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:10:39 GMT -6
A vanilla civ who can't be verified by the investigator either.
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 11:17:33 GMT -6
Granny is a tough role to decipher, yes.
I say we give him the benefit one more day, because given Soup's information above (about cause of death), it almost certainly means that there was a Granny involved on night 1. No one else has come forward.
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Post by Delap on Sept 28, 2017 11:18:36 GMT -6
Could we have a second amnesiac, soup?
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Post by SPL on Sept 28, 2017 11:19:22 GMT -6
I can also only be killed if the mafia has a strongman. If you really want to kill me, go for it but it is would be a dumb and wrong play. No other person has come forward with a plausable reason on why Odin died. I came forward after holding out if it was a sniper or other reasons because I did not want to see a town die on me.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 28, 2017 11:20:35 GMT -6
Could we have a second amnesiac, soup? No
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 11:20:42 GMT -6
Granny is a tough role to decipher, yes. I say we give him the benefit one more day, because given Soup's information above (about cause of death), it almost certainly means that there was a Granny involved on night 1. No one else has come forward. If we have an escort they could have role blocked the mafia hitter, and then the mass murderer could have killed odin. Day 1 isn't necessarily a guaranteed granny kill.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 11:21:42 GMT -6
I can also only be killed if the mafia has a strongman. If you really want to kill me, go for it but it is would be a dumb and wrong play. No other person has come forward with a plausable reason on why Odin died. I came forward after holding out if it was a sniper or other reasons because I did not want to see a town die on me. I just did
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Post by SPL on Sept 28, 2017 11:22:15 GMT -6
what is interesting is if the mafia did die on me and they do not have a strongman, they would be pushing to kill me during the day.
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Sept 28, 2017 11:23:19 GMT -6
Overall not too bad a night , but im still not seeing any solid evidence that points to maf.
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Post by Majic on Sept 28, 2017 11:23:28 GMT -6
I dont really get why so many of you are convinced that we have a Mass Murderer
seems most likely that on the first night they had Odin do the hit and either attacked the Veteran or the Granny
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:24:53 GMT -6
I can also only be killed if the mafia has a strongman. If you really want to kill me, go for it but it is would be a dumb and wrong play. No other person has come forward with a plausable reason on why Odin died. I came forward after holding out if it was a sniper or other reasons because I did not want to see a town die on me. Mass murderer could have killed odin night 1. Night 2 makes it look like there is a mass murderer out there (no cause of death listed), so who did he kill Night 1? Either the mass murderer was blocked Night 1 or the mafia was. Each scenario is equally likely, IMO.
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Post by Druce on Sept 28, 2017 11:25:14 GMT -6
what is interesting is if the mafia did die on me and they do not have a strongman, they would be pushing to kill me during the day. exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:26:10 GMT -6
I dont really get why so many of you are convinced that we have a Mass Murderer seems most likely that on the first night they had Odin do the hit and either attacked the Veteran or the Granny but not between bullet holes and stabbing/chainsaw or whatever those other neutral evil roles do? Veteran/sniper/vigilante are the only ones that would be told they were killed with bullets. Serial killer knives Arsonist fire Mass murderer/granny/mafia nothing None of the deaths have had any reasons posted with them.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Sept 28, 2017 11:27:57 GMT -6
I dont really get why so many of you are convinced that we have a Mass Murderer seems most likely that on the first night they had Odin do the hit and either attacked the Veteran or the Granny Soup's post about people dying and what would be in their death message said that if nothing ie bullet wounds, stabbing, or fire is said regarding the manner of death, it means either a granny kill, mass murderer kill, or mafia kill. Last night we had two people who couldn't have possibly visited a granny die with no description which means they died by mafia and mass murderer
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Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 28, 2017 11:28:03 GMT -6
what is interesting is if the mafia did die on me and they do not have a strongman, they would be pushing to kill me during the day. exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect Read my posts. I haven't once accused SPL of lying. i am presenting all possible scenarios and I commented about the tough part of having someone claim granny in that we cannot verify their claim (which makes it a great role for an evil role to hide behind).
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Post by Druce on Sept 28, 2017 11:29:08 GMT -6
exactly. for all we know you could absolutely be lying, but 20s asked for the granny to come out for the safety of the group and you did, to then double back and have people start accusing you of lying when no one else has come out as granny is suspect Read my posts. I haven't once accused SPL of lying. i am presenting all possible scenarios and I commented about the tough part of having someone claim granny in that we cannot verify their claim (which makes it a great role for an evil role to hide behind). i'm not saying you specifically accused him of lying, others have
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