NBA 2018 Season Ten Game Hot Reads (1,187 views)

[BKay Jewelers]

Dec 24, 2017 12:23:10 GMT -6 eric said:

We're all very excited about Ben Simmons. Some of us are getting carried away: "[Simmons is] a top-15 or 20 player already."

Let's take a breath.

Simmons is scoring 17 a game on 51% from the field, 9 boards and 8 dimes a game, putting up bleals like a young sim Sam Jones. All of this is good! But there are a lot of red flags too. Out of 64 players currently scoring 15 a game this season, Simmons is 57th in true shooting percentage, a measure that takes into accounts three point and free throw shooting. The current top and bottom three: LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Steph Curry ... Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook, Andrew Wiggins. Looks like a pretty solid metric to me.

"But wait!" you may cry, "LeBron only put up 49 TS% his rookie year!" Fact! Absolutely fact.

But here's the thing. LeBron took 3s on 15% of his attempts and made 29% of them as a rookie, and hit 75% from the line; as previously demonstrated, this gave him a 49% shot at ever becoming a decent three point shooter. By comparison, Simmons is on track to go 0 for 24 on the season from downtown - as also previously demonstrated, only 9% of players who don't make a single three their rookie season go on to do so. Not good odds.

There's also his brisk 54% free throw percentage to consider. What are his odds at improving that? Well, in NBA history there have only been four rookies to score 15+ per game and not hit 60% or better from the line, so the sample size is kinda small, so let's go one by one.

Wilt Chamberlain put up 38 a game and 58% from the line. He was actually reasonably competent from the line to start his career, over his first four years he maintained that 58% number... then for the rest of his career he hit 47%.


Shaquille O'Neal put up 23 a game and 59% from the line. He dropped off immediately but not as dramatically, making 52% the rest of his career. Like Wilt, he managed exactly one season (narrowly) above 60%. Thirty-three combined seasons, two above 60%.


Elmore Smith averaged an astonishing 17 points 15 boards as a rookie Brave in 1972, losing out in a crowded ROY race also involving Austin Carr to Sidney Wicks. Meanwhile the ABA Rookie of the Year race was between Artis Gilmore, Julius Erving, and George McGinnis.

Unlike the first two, the pride of Kentucky State University managed to improve on his rookie 53 FT%, finishing his career at 58% with three years over 60%. Also unlike the first two, he never made an All-Star or All-NBA team and sits at a cool 0.0% Hall of Fame probability per basketball-reference.


Chris Webber put up 18 a game and 53% from the line, and over his first six seasons averaged 54%. In the new millennium, however, Webber turned over a new leaf and remembered how many timeouts there were hit an astonishing 75% from the line, averaging 71% over the last nine years of his career. Aside from a nine game brickfest in his last season, he never hit below 60%.

So there is hope, sort of. For whatever it's worth, Webber is a power forward same as Simmons while the other three were pure centers, and his explanation for the improvement is "practice", so it's conceivable.

At the same time, Simmons (like Lonzo) doesn't need to improve just one of these, he needs both to become an above average scorer. Not even an elite scorer! Just above average! And it's hard to picture either of them reaching the lofty hype (mostly forgotten in Ball's case) without being at least an above average scorer.

*does timpig impression and quotes the whole post to say one line*

[Heebs]

When I was a child I thought like a child, I typed like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man I realized Oladipo was an all star.

[TimPig]

Dec 24, 2017 13:05:14 GMT -6 BKay Jewelers said:

Dec 24, 2017 12:23:10 GMT -6 eric said:

We're all very excited about Ben Simmons. Some of us are getting carried away: "[Simmons is] a top-15 or 20 player already."

Let's take a breath.

Simmons is scoring 17 a game on 51% from the field, 9 boards and 8 dimes a game, putting up bleals like a young sim Sam Jones. All of this is good! But there are a lot of red flags too. Out of 64 players currently scoring 15 a game this season, Simmons is 57th in true shooting percentage, a measure that takes into accounts three point and free throw shooting. The current top and bottom three: LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Steph Curry ... Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook, Andrew Wiggins. Looks like a pretty solid metric to me.

"But wait!" you may cry, "LeBron only put up 49 TS% his rookie year!" Fact! Absolutely fact.

But here's the thing. LeBron took 3s on 15% of his attempts and made 29% of them as a rookie, and hit 75% from the line; as previously demonstrated, this gave him a 49% shot at ever becoming a decent three point shooter. By comparison, Simmons is on track to go 0 for 24 on the season from downtown - as also previously demonstrated, only 9% of players who don't make a single three their rookie season go on to do so. Not good odds.

There's also his brisk 54% free throw percentage to consider. What are his odds at improving that? Well, in NBA history there have only been four rookies to score 15+ per game and not hit 60% or better from the line, so the sample size is kinda small, so let's go one by one.

Wilt Chamberlain put up 38 a game and 58% from the line. He was actually reasonably competent from the line to start his career, over his first four years he maintained that 58% number... then for the rest of his career he hit 47%.


Shaquille O'Neal put up 23 a game and 59% from the line. He dropped off immediately but not as dramatically, making 52% the rest of his career. Like Wilt, he managed exactly one season (narrowly) above 60%. Thirty-three combined seasons, two above 60%.


Elmore Smith averaged an astonishing 17 points 15 boards as a rookie Brave in 1972, losing out in a crowded ROY race also involving Austin Carr to Sidney Wicks. Meanwhile the ABA Rookie of the Year race was between Artis Gilmore, Julius Erving, and George McGinnis.

Unlike the first two, the pride of Kentucky State University managed to improve on his rookie 53 FT%, finishing his career at 58% with three years over 60%. Also unlike the first two, he never made an All-Star or All-NBA team and sits at a cool 0.0% Hall of Fame probability per basketball-reference.


Chris Webber put up 18 a game and 53% from the line, and over his first six seasons averaged 54%. In the new millennium, however, Webber turned over a new leaf and remembered how many timeouts there were hit an astonishing 75% from the line, averaging 71% over the last nine years of his career. Aside from a nine game brickfest in his last season, he never hit below 60%.

So there is hope, sort of. For whatever it's worth, Webber is a power forward same as Simmons while the other three were pure centers, and his explanation for the improvement is "practice", so it's conceivable.

At the same time, Simmons (like Lonzo) doesn't need to improve just one of these, he needs both to become an above average scorer. Not even an elite scorer! Just above average! And it's hard to picture either of them reaching the lofty hype (mostly forgotten in Ball's case) without being at least an above average scorer.

*does timpig impression and quotes the whole post to say one line*

Merry Christmas.

[BKay Jewelers]

Dec 25, 2017 12:35:06 GMT -6 TimPig said:

Dec 24, 2017 13:05:14 GMT -6 BKay Jewelers said:

*does timpig impression and quotes the whole post to say one line*

Merry Christmas.

If you're a good boy I'll livestream a ukulele cover of look what you made me do

[eric]

Did Getting Bledsoe Help the Bucks?

They're 14-9 with him and 4-6 without him. Over 82 games those prorate to 50 and 33 wins respectively - obviously the Bucks are way better now!

Settle down.

First of all, by Pythagorean Win-Loss their prorations should have been 43 to 32.
Second of all, they had a 43% road schedule post-Bledsoe and 50% before.
Third of all, the average PWL of their opponents is 38 since the trade and 45 before.

Put that all together and it looks like he's barely moved the needle, probably getting them the equivalent of a couple wins over an 82 game season.

Which makes sense! He's putting up a league-average .100 WS/48 and while his career number of .098 is indistinguishable from Brogdon's .095, replacing Dellavedova's .063 tier backup minutes with Brogdon works out to +1.1 wins over an 82 game season.

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Is that worth $14 mil a year?
...being within $5m of the salary cap next year with $0 allocated to Jabari Parker?
...being out a first round and second round pick?

Doesn't look like it to me.

[Lazy Pete]

kn88 come defend your boy

[eric]

Harden out at least two weeks and will therefore miss at least seven games. How will that impact the MVP race?

Here are the projected standings and the current stat leaders:

1 59 Toronto Raptors
2 58 Boston Celtics
3 51 Cleveland Cavaliers
4 47 Washington Wizards
5 45 Detroit Pistons
6 42 Milwaukee Bucks
7 42 Indiana Pacers
8 41 New York Knicks
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9 39 Miami Heat
10 39 Philadelphia 76ers 
11 33 Brooklyn Nets 
12 33 Charlotte Hornets 
13 27 Chicago Bulls 
14 27 Atlanta Hawks 
15 27 Orlando Magic 


1 64 Golden State Warriors
2 61 Houston Rockets
3 52 San Antonio Spurs
4 50 Minnesota Timberwolves
5 47 Oklahoma City Thunder
6 44 Denver Nuggets
7 44 Portland Trail Blazers
8 41 New Orleans Pelicans
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9 39 Los Angeles Clippers
10 38 Utah Jazz 
11 31 Dallas Mavericks 
12 29 Memphis Grizzlies 
13 28 Los Angeles Lakers 
14 27 Phoenix Suns 
15 23 Sacramento Kings 

2.85 James Harden
2.84 LeBron James
2.27 Giannis Antetokounmpo
2.06 Jimmy Butler
1.99 Anthony Davis
1.93 Al Horford
1.93 Russell Westbrook
1.91 Kyle Lowry
1.79 Kyrie Irving
1.77 Damian Lillard
So he doesn't need to worry about dropping out of the top two in the West. Even if the Rockets take an 0fer they've still got a cushion.

Stat wise he only just barely has a lead over LeBron so missing any time at all will cost him there, but LeBron isn't on a top two team in the East so that's not that big a deal, and nobody's voting for Al Horford or Kyle Lowry over James Harden, so unless the absence is longer than predicted he should be pretty much set as MVP favorite.

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Not yet mentioned are the Warriors, who are obviously not represented at all in the above list. Wha' happen?

By rate stats Steph Curry is having a great year. Not as good as his historic 2016, but by dint of being historic almost no one's ever has been. His problem is just the missing time: being 13 games behind in a 37 game sample is insurmountable. Even if we scale his totals to 37 games he only ends up with a cumulative 2.56, so even accounting for the Warriors somewhat better team success Harden would still be the front runner.

Draymond Green has always done a lot better in plus minus based stats than box score ones: in 2016 he was #1 in Real Plus Minus wins and in 2017 he was #5. This year so far he's #16, and he's slipped a bit in Win Shares and Wins Produced too. He has also missed a few more games than usual. Put all that together and he's streets behind.

I've mentioned before how .300 WS/48 is a magic number, above which only the true statistical greats lie: your Wilts, your Kareems, your Michaels (Jordan, not Cooper), your LeBrons, your aforementioned 2016 Steph Curry. Kevin Durant came as close as anyone ever has without quite getting it, posting a .291 and .295 for the 2013 and 2014 Oklahoma City Thunder. Then he broke his foot and the crackerjack OKC front office rushed him back too soon on multiple occasions, plus Westbrook went full Westbrook so Durant went full Barkley and glommed onto a championship team with a fellow MVP. I didn't expect him to hit .300, as shown it's extremely rare, but I wouldn't have been surprised if he did. Last year he hit .278, an extremely good number, they're still figuring out how to integrate the pieces, the Heatles got a lot better after year one, maybe this is the year.

He's at .204.

That's by far his lowest number since 2011.

And it's not just Win Shares. PER-USG pegs him as the worst he's been since 2011 too. By Wins Produced per minute this is his worst year since 2009. Real Plus Minus only goes back to 2014 (and they've been known to change their formula year over year) but for whatever it's worth it's his worst mark there too. And all this on a team that is demonstrably better than any he was ever on in Oklahoma City or Seattle.

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So what gives?

Maybe it's a nagging injury.
Maybe it's the chickens coming home to roost - remember that McHale's numbers declined after playing on a broken foot in 1987 too.
Maybe it's the rotating door lineup - Steph, Draymond, the great Zaza Pachulia have all missed games.
Or maybe he's just past his prime.

This is year eleven, and even LeBron's peak ended in year ten. The body can only take so much.

[eric]

Watching the Celts-'rwol's game today where Andrew Wiggins and Jayson Tatum happened to be matched up most (but interestingly not all) of the time they were on the floor. Really stark differences.

No, Tatum's probably not a 47% three point shooter. But what he has going for him is he's also hitting 46% on long twos, and major regression candidates don't do that. Look for example at Jae Crowder, who in the year he shot 40% from three hit only 36% on long twos, and now he's right back to the 32 3P% guy he always was before. Long jump shots are long jump shots, small sample are small samples, but at least we won't have to watch the painful mental gymnastics of
"yeah but Wiggins shot 37% the first three months of the season, he's just tired! rookie wall!"
"well actually, Wiggins shot 40% the last three months of the season! he's figuring it out in year two! huh! you PEOPLE judge players too quickly!"

What I found a lot more exciting about Tatum was defensively. He's nowhere near the athlete Wiggins is in any category - lateral quickness, vertical, first step, there's no competition. You know when vertical leap and lateral quickness is meaningless? When you're standing around not paying attention to the game like a bozo. It's year four and Wiggins still meanders through most possessions. On defense he's routinely in no man's land - neither close enough to help nor recover, not boxing out or going for the rebound or leaking out in transition, hands down, head fixed. Sure he'll throw in a highlight reel block once a game or so, but there are a hundred possessions. What's he doing the other ninety nine?

Now you want to see someone with defensive chops, watch Tatum off the ball sometime. "See the man, see the ball" the coaches say, and you can almost see that running through Tatum's brain as he snaps his eyes back and forth - ball, man, ball, man. As mentioned he doesn't have elite quickness but he still defends with his feet, anticipating the action, getting in good position, keeping his hands high and not reaching. He also was briefly assigned to defense Taj Gibson at the four and looked very credible defending the pick and roll as a big man, and after Boston assigned Kyrie to defend Wiggins(!!!!!) he looked credible guarding point guard Tyus Jones too. You definitely don't want him doing the latter full time, he's just not quick enough, but like Tristan Thompson you only have to do it for a few seconds here and there to fundamentally change what your defense can do.

Individual defense is really hard to measure. One thing a lot of rookies struggle with is not fouling, and Tatum is way ahead of the curve there. The NBA average last year for rotation players was 3.0 fouls per 36 minutes, and an even higher 3.3 for rookies. Tatum's at 2.5. Granted as a primarily perimeter player he does have an easier time but still. I've been Watching The Games on these ballyhooed young pups since Anthony Davis, and I've never been as impressed with a rookie defender.

[eric]

Lakers traded their 1st and 2nd in the upcoming draft in packages for Steve Nash and Dwight Howard respectively.
Steve Nash played 65 games and then retired.
Dwight Howard played one year for the Lakers and is as of this writing on his third team since.

The Lakers clearly lost those trades.

But did the other teams win?

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The picks in the Suns trade have so far turned into Nemanja Nedovic (24 GP), Alex Oriakhi (0 GP), and Johnny O'Bryant, who ended up on Charlotte and has yet to generate any value above replacement as judged by Value Over Replacement Player.

None of them played a minute for the Suns.

But.

Alex Oriakhi was traded straight up for Isaiah Thomas. (Did I mention Alex Oriakhi played 0 games in the NBA?) Just another heady move from the Sacramento Kings brain trust. That's a great coup except the Suns eventually turned him into Marquese Chriss, so.

Nemanja Nedovic was originally in the LeBron trade, then the Ramon Sessions trade, then the Steve Nash trade, then the Archie Goodwin trade. Some of those were uh... more interesting than others.

Johnny O'Bryant brushed up against NBA history as well, being part of the Kevin Martin trade that brought the great Szymon Szewczyk to Oklahoma City, whose name translates literally from the Polish as "Who needs an MVP candidate when you can have the 2003 Bundesliga Rookie of the Year, am I right Sam Presti?"

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The Magic meanwhile turned Dwight and some other scrubs into:
Arron Afflalo
Al Harrington
Romero Osby
Dario Saric
Christian Eyenga
Josh McRoberts
Wesley Iwundu
Maurice Harkless
Nikola Vucevic
De'Aaron Fox

There's a lot going on there. The upshot as of right now is Elfrid Payton, Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic, Wesley Iwundu and a top 55 protected 2020 pick from the Blazers. (Arron Afflalo is on the Magic again, in unrelated action.) Not a shock that a haul like that led to currently having 1.2 odds.

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Bottom line, everyone lost the Dwight and Nash trades.

[Lazy Pete]

Jan 8, 2018 11:18:04 GMT -6 eric said:

Bottom line, everyone lost the Dwight and Nash trades.

Everyone except the Sixers/Celtics

[eric]

Ringer article today on how great Luka Doncic and Trae Young are. One quote stood out to me:

"Of course, unlimited shooting range is no guarantee of NBA stardom. Just ask Jimmer Fredette, Doug McDermott, and Buddy Hield. None of those guys have been able to hold down starting jobs in the NBA, much less play like Curry."

I thought the Lonzo experience would have put a stop to this, but apparently not. (Lest you think I'm painting with a broad brush, the same author christened Lonzo with "unlimited" and "28-plus" foot range.) The reason Steph Curry is Steph Curry and all those other guys isn't isn't (only) because of his other skills, it's because he's literally the best shooter ever by a significant margin. His unassisted 3P% is 40%, by comparison the three gentlemen listed above are 35%, 34%, and 36% respectively - which are solid numbers! But once you pay the deep three tax on top of the off the dribble tax, "solid" becomes too low to significantly alter a defense. A guy coming off a pick 30 feet from the basket and taking a 33% three isn't scary because that's .99 expected points per possession, a paltry figure. A guy coming off a pick 30 feet from the basket and taking a 37% three is scary because that's 1.11 expected points per possession.

Extrapolating guys from non-NBA is hard for many reasons. The sample size is tiny - Trae Young for example will take less than 400 threes this year, which puts a ± 5 on his three point percentage just from random noise. The three point line is tiny - there's another 3. The game bears little resemblance to the professionals - worse coaches, worse teammates, worse opponents, worse refs, worse diet and training - there's another ??.

But a huge reason that is (still) too often ignored is we just don't have the data. 'Unlimited range' okay based on what? Last I checked the only field goal range data from college is three or two. 'Great off the dribble' okay based on what? Last I checked there's no data anywhere on how often a college player is assisted. Luka Doncic is out here shooting 35% on 400 career European threes of which ?? are assisted and we're comparing him to Steph Curry? Everybody just relax.

[eric]

Jimmy Butler working on his second consecutive season of 20+ points, 5+ rebounds, 5+ assists per game. Those are nice round numbers, let's see who's hit them for a season, and if they're in the Hall of Fame or if not where basketball-reference pegs their Hall of Fame odds:

Count HOF Player
15 100 LeBron James
9 Yes Larry Bird
9 Yes Oscar Robertson
8 100 Kobe Bryant
8 Yes Michael Jordan
6 Yes Clyde Drexler
6 Yes John Havlicek
6 Yes Tracy McGrady
6 Yes Walt Frazier
5 89 Grant Hill
5 Yes Rick Barry
5 98 Russell Westbrook
4 94 James Harden
4 Yes Jerry West
4 Yes Scottie Pippen
4 Yes Wilt Chamberlain
3 100 Dwyane Wade
3 100 Kevin Durant
3 100 Kevin Garnett
3 Yes Magic Johnson
3 Yes Richie Guerin
3 9 Steve Francis
Pretty good. Pretty good players. Let's talk a little about Stevie Franchise.

Never made All-NBA.
Never got out of the first round.
Only made the playoffs once at all.
Only played nine years in the league.

Very impressive counting stats, as partially evidenced above.
43% from the field looks horrible but his composite stats work out pretty well.
career 18 PER on 25 USG, .12 WS/48, .13 WP/48

Probably not making the Hall.

(Jimmy Butler already has a 9% HOF chance.)

[eric]

projected standings and stats update

1 60 Boston Celtics
2 59 Toronto Raptors
3 48 Washington Wizards
4 47 Cleveland Cavaliers
5 44 Detroit Pistons
6 43 Miami Heat
7 43 Indiana Pacers
8 42 Milwaukee Bucks
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9 41 Philadelphia 76ers
10 38 New York Knicks 
11 35 Charlotte Hornets 
12 32 Brooklyn Nets 
13 28 Chicago Bulls 
14 25 Atlanta Hawks 
15 24 Orlando Magic 


1 64 Golden State Warriors
2 60 Houston Rockets
3 53 San Antonio Spurs
4 52 Minnesota Timberwolves
5 46 Oklahoma City Thunder
6 43 Portland Trail Blazers
7 42 Denver Nuggets
8 42 Los Angeles Clippers
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9 41 New Orleans Pelicans
10 36 Utah Jazz 
11 31 Dallas Mavericks 
12 30 Los Angeles Lakers 
13 29 Memphis Grizzlies 
14 28 Phoenix Suns 
15 22 Sacramento Kings 
That Cavs over 53 wins bet is looking pretty grim.
Kawhi Leonard has played 9 games and has yet to play 3 in a row, and the Spurs are on track for 53 wins. #InPopWeTrust
Seventys and Pels (barely) on the outside looking in for the playoffs. These teams shall we say do not have the same future outlook.

overall stats:
2.81 LeBron James
2.74 James Harden
2.62 Jimmy Butler
2.60 Giannis Antetokounmpo
2.48 Karl-Anthony Towns
2.32 Russell Westbrook
2.25 Anthony Davis
2.05 Stephen Curry
2.02 Al Horford
1.94 Kyle Lowry
Resulting MVP ballot: Harden - Curry - Horford - Lowry! - LeBron

People are gonna look back on Jimmy Butler and wonder how he didn't get way more accolades. Current tally:
3 All Stars
1 All NBA (3rd)
1 Player of the Month
0 MVP Votes. Not MVP 1st Place Votes, literally any MVP Votes at all. People who have gotten MVP votes in the last three years:
Klay Thompson
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeMar DeRozan
Damian Lillard



If you add upu everyone's Win Shares since and including the 2015 season, the list goes Harden, Curry, big gap, LeBron, CP3, Westbrook, DeAndre, Jimmy Buckets, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard(!), Kevin Durant(!!!). Granted, if you go by WS/48 Butler is tenth on that list and the top five goes Curry LeBron Durant Kawhi Harden, so some of it is just showing up, but if you're the best player and you're not playing in what sense are you a player, player?

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Current Dwyane Wade 3P%: 33%
Current Andrew Wiggins 3P%: 32%
Current Lonzo Ball FG/3P/FT: 36% / 30% / 48%
Current Victor Oladipo FG/3P/FT: 49% / 41% / 79%
Current Ben Simmons FT%: 56%
Current Andre Drummond FT%: 63%
Current Zaza Pachulia MP/G: 14.4 (record is 15.3)
Current James Harden PER / WS/48: 30.4, .302

[eric]

also s/o to the Kings for bringing in Vince Carter, Zach Randolph, and George Hill only to project to 1.1 odds. Also George Hill has started every one of 30+ games played and is playing 27.1 MPG somehow. Here are the guards that match that condition:

26.5 - Danny Green
26.9 - Andre Roberson "guard"
27.06 - Georgie
27.09 - Reggie Jackson
28.2 - Dennis Smith

Some of this makes sense: Danny Green's backup is Manu Ginobili, Andre Roberson is not a good basketball player... Georgie is pretty easily the best player on this Kings team, which is a low bar but still. You're paying him $20m a year for three years, why not give him real burn?

[eric]

a passing thought on Wiggins

(get it? passing?)

we all know he has historically poor assist to turnover numbers for a perimeter player
but sometimes a guy makes the pass that sets up the pass that sets up the bucket
maybe wiggins is a good ball mover who's just one step away from the box score measurement

as it happens, we have stats.nba.com that tracks every pass a player throws

the nba average this year for guys with 500+ mp is .071 assists per pass.
wiggins assists per pass is .056, good for 203rd out of 277 players.
not great.
(#1 is, of course, rajon rondo.)

this combined with his high usage and comically low assists means that he's one of only 6 of those 277 players to average less than 2 passes per field goal attempt.

well, maybe it's a dumb metric. let's look at the names.

Hassan Whiteside
C.J. Miles
Carmelo Anthony
Andrew Wiggins
Jaylen Brown
T.J. Warren

granted some of these guys are relatively obscure but any time your passing is comparable to Carmelo Anthony you're in trouble.

[eric]

All-Stars

By current Win Shares:

East
FC Drummond
FC LeBron
FC Giannis
BC DeRozan
BC Kyrie

FC Horford
FC Tatum
FC Love
BC Lowry
BC Collison
WC Oladipo
WC Kemba

West
FC Aldridge
FC Towns
FC Davis
BC Harden
BC Butler

FC Durant
FC Adams
FC Capela
BC Curry
BC Westbrook
WC Lillard
WC DeAndre

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by comparison to The Great Zach Lowe there are some differences.

For Easties Embiid, the Snapper, and Beal on; Tatum, Collison, and Kemba off. Nobody's voting Darren Collison for All-Star and the Hornets stink. Tatum should legitimately be on though, he's (already) a better version of Bradley Beal: slick shooting wings, Beal passes and creates his own shot a little better but by no means well, Tatum rebounds much better, defense who knows, they both look the part but Beal's career Net DRtg is -0.9 so he probably doesn't move the needle either way. Incidentally the worst Win Shares by far in Lowe's East is Kristaps at #67 overall.

In the West are even more hinkies: he has Green, Boogie, PG13, and Klay over Adams, Capela, DeAndre, and Lillard. Again that's pretty fair, especially since Lillard is so salty about it. I would have DeAndre in over Cousins but that's a minor thing, and putting Capela on the same team as Durant would be good for a lulz at least.

I'll update this when the actual rosters are released.

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Let's get happy, people.

Happy trails to the ball once you pass it to Andrew Wiggins. Wiggins recorded 40 points and 1, count 'em Mike, ONE assist last night. Since the 1977 merger the two players with the most such games are Shaquille O'Neal with 16 and Kobe Bryant with 14. Amazing how they couldn't get along.

Andrew Wiggins through four years:
19.9 points and 4.1 rebounds per 36 minutes, 33% from three, 612 assists to 624 turnovers

Antawn Jamison through four years:
19.7 points and 7.7 rebounds per 36 minutes, 31% from three, 449 assists to 541 turnovers

Andrew Wiggins, 2020 Sixth Man of the Year? You heard it here first.

[eric]

The actual All-Stars by WS rank in their conference

East
FC (21) Joel Embiid
FC (2) LeBron James
FC (1) Giannis Antetokounmpo
BC (3) DeMar DeRozan
BC (4) Kyrie Irving

FC (32) Kristaps Porzingis
FC (10) Kevin Love
FC (6) Al Horford
BC (51) John Wall
BC (7) Kyle Lowry
WC (11) Victor Oladipo
WC (14) Bradley Beal

Biggest snubs:
(8) Jayson Tatum (FC)
(9) Darren Collison (BC)

West
FC (15) DeMarcus Cousins
FC (3) Anthony Davis
FC (7) Kevin Durant
BC (1) James Harden
BC (6) Stephen Curry

FC (2) Karl-Anthony Towns
FC (5) LaMarcus Aldridge
FC (21) Draymond Green
BC (4) Jimmy Butler
BC (8) Russell Westbrook
WC (25) Klay Thompson
WC (9) Damian Lillard

Biggest snubs:
(10) Steven "Second Best Thunders After Paul 'Supersnub' George" Adams (FC)
(13) Chris Paul (BC)

[TimPig]

Who is #5 in WS in the East and why was he not considered a snub?

[eric]

Jan 23, 2018 20:38:58 GMT -6 TimPig said:

Who is #5 in WS in the East and why was he not considered a snub?

Andre Drummond

iCarly

never forget

[eric]

Why Age At 30,000 Points Ain't Nothing But a Number

or

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Kareem's Untouchable Point Record



So being younger helps slightly but Dirk is still legally active. If he gets to 32100 on his career that brings the no r^2-havin' regression to age-neutral. He's on track for another 430 this year and then if he comes back next year he just needs 833.



Let's look at the same regression against experience instead of age.



Ayyyyy now we're talking. Like with the age regression the r^2 will drop the more Dirk scores but even at his 32100 it'll still say less experience means more eventual career points and the r^2 will be .05.

N.B.: Michael Jordan isn't on any of these because he's the only one in this group who retired three times, so talking about his age and years experience gets a little fuzzy.

[eric]

Boogie

I know the Ringer is an easy target but come on: "By all measures, this season was DeMarcus Cousins’s best."

All measures except for Win Shares per 48, Wins Produced per 48, PER, Box Plus Minus, and Real Plus Minus. Other than that, sure.

Also the fact that he's been All-NBA 2nd twice and would have to beat seven of KAT, LMA, Drummond, Adams, Horford, DeAndre, Capela, and the Joker to do so again. Good luck with that.

I'm not saying composite measurements are Gospels, synoptic or otherwise. But if you want to say "all measures", take the five minutes to look up a few of them, you know? It's not hard.

[eric]

Blake

Let's talk jump shooting. Blake before last year barely shot threes: 2.5% of his attempts came from beyond the arc. Last year he shifted a good chunk of his long twos to threes, which is good! Three is worth more than two. He shot at a fair to middling level from both ranges: 44% on long twos and 34% on threes for a total of .90 points per long jumper. Not great, but not horrible for a big man. This year he has shifted the shot selection even more dramatically but so far it hasn't really shifted his overall profile, currently at .91 points per long jumper.

His new fellow max big man Andre Drummond has basically the same shot profile as his old fellow max big man DeAndre Jordan: 95% of his shots come within ten feet as compared to 98% for DeAndre. Andre has famously jolted his free throw percentage from terrible to a merely poor 63%, but another way he's abruptly changed his previously similar to DeAndre game is passing. Before this year he had a total of 277 assists against 594 turnovers. This year he already has more assists than his previous two high years put together with over 4 assists per 36, and his efficiency has dramatically increased as well as his turnovers are only barely over 3 per 36.

Reggie Jackson's shooting is about as good as Blake Griffin's, which since he's a point guard is kind of problematic: career .90 points per long jumper, 1.00 last year, .93 so far this year.

And all three are under contract for at least three years, in 2020 owed a combined $79m.



Shooting isn't everything, and one way to make spacing without it is with passing, so if Drummond's assist uptick is real that's crucial. You still need serious shooting on the wings with this lineup, and even sending Harris and Bradley out they've got some with Tolliver, Bullock, and Kennard. Overall they're below average players but if all you need them to do is stand around and make threes they can do that for you.

I don't think it'll work, because Blake and a rangeless center didn't work with Chris Paul who is 100x the player Reggie Jackson will ever be. But there's working and then there's working. If the Pistons have a couple first round playoff wins, that's a huge improvement from the wasteland they've been in for the decade since they traded Billups. And maybe something breaks their way: a young guy pops (e.g. sim great Stanley Robinson), a trade of Jackson somehow, who knows.

[eric]

The Cavs

Gave it some time to digest. Refresher for everyone:

OUT: Isaiah Thomas, Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, Iman Shumpert, Jae Crowder, Channing Frye
IN: George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr.

Isaiah and Rose were getting most of the PG minutes: in the past 10 games they have a combined 42 mpg. Okay. Huge upgrade for obvious reasons. Both Thomas and Rose have been below replacement level this season, combining for a stiff -0.2 Win Shares in 700 some odd minutes. Rose has never been a shooter and continued that with 25% from three this year. Thomas astonishingly posted an even worse 23% so far. Defensively they're sieves and always have been.

Even in a very down year in Sacramento (as if there was any other kind), Georgie is keeping up the great shooting and is in fact leading the league in 3P% as of this writing with a cool 45%. His career composite stats are all over the map but a .15 ws/48 type player is a reasonable expectation, which would give him the third best figure on this Cavs team, and we know he's comfortable in that role because we saw it work in Indiana. Better player, better fit, Sacramento's GM(?) is awful, we all knew this move was coming, it should work out great. $19m feels steep for "third best guy on a Conference Finalist" but beggars can't be chosers.

Jordan Clarkson came out of nowhere and statistically he's an improvement over D Wade at the backup 1-2. He's a poor 3P shooter at 33% career but even that's an improvement over Wade's 29%. Penetration is hard to measure in statistics, but to the degree we can even Old Man Wade crushes Clarkson in that category, which is worrisome considering that there isn't a big glut of playmaking on the Cavs bench. The pre-trade Cavs bench has been thoroughly outplaying the starters all year and especially while Love is out they'll probably struggle to find offense. None of the one man shows of Clarkson, Hill, or Hood are terribly appealing. Again, $12m for "I'm not in love with this guy running the backup offense" is not a great look.

That brings us to "Hot" Rod Hood. You'll probably be surprised to learn that JR Swish is shooting 36% from three on the year, because it feels like he's shooting 2%. Hood's percentage is still better but we're not talking about Rose to Hill type upgrade here. Neither of them are passers, both of them love getting their own look probably a little too much. The hope is that as a much younger version of Smith he'll be strong on defense/transition/not being old, but there's a reason Utah gave up on him for peanuts. I don't think this change helps the Cavs that much.

Channing Frye's been getting 18 mpg since the Love injury, and one would hope Nance slides right into those. He's a better jump shooter than Tristan Thompson but nowhere close to Frye. Again you're hoping for energy/defense kind of contributions, but again the guy was barely starting on a tanking Lakers team for a reason. Add on how apparently everyone in the locker room loves Frye and this feels like a negative that granted should go away once Love gets back.

I don't know who's taking Jae Crowder's minutes. I would go with MAXver over Jeff Green and here's why: Jeff Green is bad at basketball and always has been. His best skill is he can kind of get his own look, which is wasted on a lineup with three shot creators in Hill, Hood, and LeBron. He's a bad three point shooter at 33% career and 31% this year, and since they have to start Tristan Thompson by default that makes two, which is much worse than just one. Bringing him off the bench meanwhile helps keep the Jordan Clarkson / Cedi Osmans of the world from getting overextended creatively. The bad shooting is also an issue there but spacing doesn't matter if nobody can get in the paint anyway.

Iman Shumpert wasn't getting time anyway, but we're still looking at five current rotation spots out for four in, which means extended time for somebody who's still a Cav. Cedi Osman was supposed to be getting more minutes even before the trade so he makes a lot of sense. I think good ol' Jose Calderon might get some time to to inject shooting and not being a knucklehead into various lineups.

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Overall I think it'll be a little clunky until Love gets back, but having two legit primary offensive options will really make it all come together. Considering Love will get back about ten seconds before the playoff starts, it's going to be really difficult to project how they'll do or figure out what rotation works. Even if they play LeBron exclusively at 4/5 with Love/Thompson they have too many wings: Korver and Green (who should also be playing 4), Hood, Osman, Smith, and whatever excess Clarkson gives you in two PG looks. They can't just dump Smith because he's under contract for another 2 years at $14m each, I feel like Osman is going to get nailed right back to the bench, but we'll see.

[eric]

Everbody's Getting Ted Up Now

So Draymond Green in particular has a lot to say about how the refs need to make like a tree and get out of here with all these technical fouls.

So I wondered... is everybody getting Ted up now? ESPN has stats going back to 2000, let's have a look at league-wide minutes played per technical foul called so we don't have to worry about 2012 or this year being only partway done. The more minutes there are per tech, the less techs are being called:



So while the tech rate has increased the past two years, it's still pretty much where it has been since the NBA introduced various Rasheed rules back in 2006.

So Draymond should probably just stop.

[eric]

As long as I had the stats up I decided to check out every player's marks from 2007-present. For players with 10,000+ MP (overall average 665 minutes per technical), here are the least and most likely to get technicals:

mp techs rate name
23366 0 #DIV/0! Mike Conley, PG
16077 0 #DIV/0! Ty Lawson, PG
12798 0 #DIV/0! Willie Green, SG
12702 0 #DIV/0! Andrei Kirilenko, SF
12604 0 #DIV/0! Wesley Johnson, SF
12366 0 #DIV/0! Kawhi Leonard, SF
10566 0 #DIV/0! Brandon Rush, SG
22328 1 22328 Kyle Korver, SG
16458 1 16458 Beno Udrih, PG
15539 1 15539 CJ Miles, SF
12948 1 12948 Avery Bradley, SG
11660 1 11660 Jodie Meeks, SG
11547 1 11547 Ronnie Brewer, SF
11444 1 11444 Anthony Tolliver, PF
10391 1 10391 Carlos Delfino, SG

24772 100 248 Russell Westbrook, PG
13610 55 247 Chris Kaman, C
23393 96 244 Kobe Bryant, SF
19896 83 240 Matt Barnes, SF
28514 120 238 Carmelo Anthony, PF
12343 52 237 Nate Robinson, PG
29281 134 219 Dwight Howard, C
17883 83 215 Kevin Garnett, PF
17843 83 215 Blake Griffin, PF
12298 58 212 Richard Hamilton, SG
13033 64 204 Markieff Morris, PF
12184 61 200 Draymond Green, PF
18727 97 193 Amar'e Stoudemire, C
15597 83 188 Stephen Jackson, SF
10591 66 160 Jermaine O'Neal, C
15231 97 157 Kendrick Perkins, C
17309 118 147 DeMarcus Cousins, C
Most of these names are unsurprising. I wouldn't have guessed Kawhi and Avery Bradley had combined for exactly 1 career tech, for example, but I would certainly have guessed a low number. Let's make All-NBA No Tech and All-NBA All-Ejection teams:

Mike Conley - Avery Bradley - Kawhi Leonard - Harrison Barnes - Brook Lopez



Russell Westbrook - Lance Stephenson - Markieff Morris - Draymond Green - DeMarcus Cousins



Here are the full stats.

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mp techs rate name
23366 0 #DIV/0! Mike Conley, PG
16077 0 #DIV/0! Ty Lawson, PG
12798 0 #DIV/0! Willie Green, SG
12702 0 #DIV/0! Andrei Kirilenko, SF
12604 0 #DIV/0! Wesley Johnson, SF
12366 0 #DIV/0! Kawhi Leonard, SF
10566 0 #DIV/0! Brandon Rush, SG
22328 1 22328 Kyle Korver, SG
16458 1 16458 Beno Udrih, PG
15539 1 15539 CJ Miles, SF
12948 1 12948 Avery Bradley, SG
11660 1 11660 Jodie Meeks, SG
11547 1 11547 Ronnie Brewer, SF
11444 1 11444 Anthony Tolliver, PF
10391 1 10391 Carlos Delfino, SG
19275 2 9638 Randy Foye, SG
16162 2 8081 Gordon Hayward, SF
14221 2 7110 Leandro Barbosa, SG
13371 2 6685 Anthony Parker, SG
13268 2 6634 Harrison Barnes, SF
12853 2 6426 Martell Webster, SF
12091 2 6046 C.J. Watson, PG
23076 4 5769 Jeff Green, SF
10786 2 5393 Jeremy Lin, PG
15951 3 5317 Ersan Ilyasova, PF
15372 3 5124 Luc Mbah a Moute, PF
10098 2 5049 Matt Bonner, C
18220 4 4555 Darren Collison, PG
22506 5 4501 Tayshaun Prince, SF
17487 4 4372 Wilson Chandler, SF
12939 3 4313 Danny Green, SG
17226 4 4307 Shane Battier, SF
12098 3 4033 Ryan Gomes, SF
19872 5 3974 Shawn Marion, SG
19090 5 3818 Brook Lopez, C
15238 4 3810 Emeka Okafor, C
11270 3 3757 Chuck Hayes, PF
10920 3 3640 Andrew Wiggins, SF
18194 5 3639 Jared Dudley, SF
18012 5 3602 Eric Gordon, SG
24389 7 3484 Thaddeus Young, PF
13793 4 3448 Derrick Favors, PF
11938 4 2985 Brandon Knight, PG
11195 4 2799 Chris Duhon, PG
18954 7 2708 Ray Allen, SG
18732 7 2676 Manu Ginobili, SG
21166 8 2646 Nicolas Batum, SG
22774 9 2530 Boris Diaw, C
17682 7 2526 Jason Kidd, PG
12550 5 2510 Chandler Parsons, SF
29657 12 2471 Joe Johnson, SG
17038 7 2434 Klay Thompson, SG
12131 5 2426 Dorell Wright, SF
11810 5 2362 Wayne Ellington, SG
11561 5 2312 Brandon Roy, SG
16120 7 2303 Marco Belinelli, SG
20699 9 2300 Courtney Lee, SG
18212 8 2277 Jrue Holiday, PG
11344 5 2269 Victor Oladipo, SG
11297 5 2259 Marcus Thornton, SG
11069 5 2214 Travis Outlaw, SF
12785 6 2131 Ricky Rubio, PG
16136 8 2017 Brandon Bass, PF
11961 6 1994 Rasual Butler, SF
11920 6 1987 JJ Hickson, C
14669 8 1834 Kyrie Irving, PG
16155 9 1795 Damian Lillard, PG
17675 10 1767 Corey Brewer, SF
15893 9 1766 Ramon Sessions, PG
19000 11 1727 Luis Scola, PF
15314 9 1702 Luke Ridnour, PG
23767 14 1698 Tony Parker, PG
26285 16 1643 Luol Deng, SF
18005 11 1637 Thabo Sefolosha, SF
29379 18 1632 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF
24250 15 1617 Marvin Williams, PF
17706 11 1610 Jeff Teague, PG
12779 8 1597 Bradley Beal, SG
17321 11 1575 Amir Johnson, PF
18559 12 1547 Mike Dunleavy, SG
19958 13 1535 Lou Williams, SG
12273 8 1534 Patrick Patterson, PF
13789 9 1532 Al-Farouq Aminu, PF
17993 12 1499 Caron Butler, SF
14792 10 1479 Mike Miller, SG
23190 16 1449 Al Horford, PF
12742 9 1416 Kris Humphries, PF
21219 15 1415 Stephen Curry, PG
15380 11 1398 Jason Richardson, SG
11056 8 1382 Ed Davis, PF
19182 14 1370 Kevin Martin, SG
13499 10 1350 Dante Cunningham, SF
14767 11 1342 Elton Brand, PF
20125 15 1342 Kevin Love, PF
15814 12 1318 Andrea Bargnani, C
14061 11 1278 Tristan Thompson, C
29232 23 1271 Andre Iguodala, SF
16359 13 1258 D.J. Augustin, PG
14759 12 1230 Danilo Gallinari, SF
25621 21 1220 Raymond Felton, PG
21915 18 1217 Richard Jefferson, SF
20660 17 1215 Arron Afflalo, SG
15734 13 1210 Nick Collison, PF
16602 14 1186 Derrick Rose, PG
21192 18 1177 Jose Calderon, PG
18522 16 1158 John Salmons, SF
16149 14 1154 Ryan Anderson, PF
24063 21 1146 Al Jefferson, C
17097 15 1140 Antawn Jamison, PF
26816 24 1117 Pau Gasol, C
11923 11 1084 Giannis Antetokounmpo, PF
23168 22 1053 David Lee, PF
11529 11 1048 Carl Landry, PF
13479 13 1037 Shaun Livingston, PG
12278 12 1023 Anthony Morrow, SG
22422 22 1019 Jarrett Jack, PG
17896 18 994 Rodney Stuckey, PG
14774 15 985 Jimmy Butler, SG
10789 11 981 Reggie Jackson, PG
16671 17 981 Tyreke Evans, SG
18507 19 974 George Hill, PG
10582 11 962 Bismack Biyombo, C
12502 13 962 Marcus Camby, C
16994 18 944 Steve Blake, PG
15719 17 925 Samuel Dalembert, C
19308 21 919 Marcin Gortat, C
12709 14 908 Tobias Harris, SF
13240 15 883 Anthony Davis, PF
15886 18 883 Ben Gordon, SG
23654 27 876 Chris Bosh, PF
21026 24 876 Jameer Nelson, PG
11329 13 871 Omri Casspi, SF
12110 14 865 Earl Watson, PG
27596 32 862 Rudy Gay, SF
10258 12 855 Brendan Haywood, C
22217 26 855 Jason Terry, SG
10982 13 845 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG
14969 18 832 Rashard Lewis, PF
28133 34 827 Monta Ellis, SG
10546 13 811 Francisco Garcia, SG
17698 22 804 Channing Frye, PF
11217 14 801 Charlie Villanueva, PF
24704 31 797 Trevor Ariza, SF
15824 20 791 Tony Allen, SG
11006 14 786 DeMarre Carroll, SF
16903 22 768 Mario Chalmers, PG
22347 30 745 James Harden, PG
13324 18 740 Grant Hill, SF
10239 14 731 Jae Crowder, PF
10820 15 721 Enes Kanter, C
25162 35 719 Paul Millsap, PF
12922 18 718 Nikola Vucevic, C
23993 34 706 Rajon Rondo, PG
10464 15 698 Troy Murphy, PF
16733 24 697 Danny Granger, SF
14445 21 688 Udonis Haslem, PF
19903 29 686 Devin Harris, PG
11230 17 661 Jason Maxiell, PF
18457 28 659 JJ Redick, SG
20765 32 649 Andre Miller, PG
13550 21 645 Al Harrington, PF
10314 16 645 Kosta Koufos, C
12141 19 639 Mike Bibby, PG
25528 40 638 Zach Randolph, PF
15747 25 630 Nick Young, SG
19447 31 627 Goran Dragic, PG
10032 16 627 DeShawn Stevenson, SG
10612 17 624 James Johnson, PF
10404 17 612 Ben Wallace, PF
11011 18 612 Khris Middleton, SF
33371 56 596 LeBron James, SF
23525 40 588 Marc Gasol, C
12933 22 588 Michael Beasley, SF
19467 34 573 Carlos Boozer, PF
18558 33 562 Kirk Hinrich, SG
23460 42 559 Vince Carter, SG
26556 48 553 Deron Williams, PG
10989 20 549 Corey Maggette, SF
25576 47 544 Jamal Crawford, SG
17375 32 543 Andrew Bogut, C
13439 25 538 Anderson Varejao, C
16378 31 528 Roy Hibbert, C
16841 32 526 Kemba Walker, PG
11430 22 520 Drew Gooden, PF
16576 32 518 Taj Gibson, PF
17000 33 515 Steve Nash, PG
22136 43 515 Tim Duncan, C
15871 31 512 Hedo Turkoglu, SF
18403 36 511 Nene Hilario, C
14653 29 505 J.J. Barea, PG
10571 21 503 Jonas Valanciunas, C
16522 33 501 Greg Monroe, C
16426 33 498 Evan Turner, SG
12677 26 488 Eric Bledsoe, PG
10234 21 487 Mehmet Okur, C
21242 44 483 Wesley Matthews, SG
23005 48 479 Paul Pierce, SF
10492 22 477 Dion Waiters, SG
16626 35 475 Paul George, SF
11821 25 473 Jerryd Bayless, PG
10861 23 472 Glen Davis, PF
15010 32 469 Derek Fisher, PG
16634 36 462 Brandon Jennings, PG
19314 42 460 Mo Williams, PG
10674 24 445 Gerald Green, SG
10556 24 440 Marreese Speights, PF
22116 51 434 DeMar DeRozan, SG
10353 24 431 Andrew Bynum, C
16543 39 424 Zaza Pachulia, C
17663 42 421 Metta World Peace, SF
22424 54 415 JR Smith, SG
13862 34 408 Gerald Henderson, SG
10501 26 404 Trevor Booker, PF
18898 47 402 Serge Ibaka, PF
14824 37 401 Jason Thompson, PF
12295 31 397 Andray Blatche, C
15827 40 396 Robin Lopez, C
27899 71 393 Kevin Durant, SF
24829 64 388 David West, PF
23705 63 376 Kyle Lowry, PG
16913 45 376 O.J. Mayo, SG
13123 35 375 Andre Drummond, C
19347 52 372 Gerald Wallace, SF
15300 42 364 Lamar Odom, PF
25438 70 363 Dwyane Wade, SG
28001 78 359 Dirk Nowitzki, PF
10993 31 355 Kenneth Faried, PF
15542 45 345 Spencer Hawes, PF
10953 34 322 Raja Bell, SG
19308 61 317 John Wall, PG
24400 81 301 Josh Smith, PF
11703 39 300 Marcus Morris, PF
13414 45 298 Aaron Brooks, PG
17909 61 294 Joakim Noah, C
13114 45 291 PJ Tucker, SF
13978 48 291 Chauncey Billups, PG
27967 99 282 Chris Paul, PG
20117 72 279 DeAndre Jordan, C
13625 49 278 Isaiah Thomas, PG
10177 37 275 Lance Stephenson, SG
22107 84 263 Tyson Chandler, C
12433 49 254 Baron Davis, PG
24772 100 248 Russell Westbrook, PG
13610 55 247 Chris Kaman, C
23393 96 244 Kobe Bryant, SF
19896 83 240 Matt Barnes, SF
28514 120 238 Carmelo Anthony, PF
12343 52 237 Nate Robinson, PG
29281 134 219 Dwight Howard, C
17883 83 215 Kevin Garnett, PF
17843 83 215 Blake Griffin, PF
12298 58 212 Richard Hamilton, SG
13033 64 204 Markieff Morris, PF
12184 61 200 Draymond Green, PF
18727 97 193 Amar'e Stoudemire, C
15597 83 188 Stephen Jackson, SF
10591 66 160 Jermaine O'Neal, C
15231 97 157 Kendrick Perkins, C
17309 118 147 DeMarcus Cousins, C

8256.1 0 #DIV/0! Otto Porter Jr., SF
7999.9 0 #DIV/0! Garrett Temple, SG
7670.4 0 #DIV/0! Tony Snell, SG
6934.8 0 #DIV/0! Brandan Wright, PF
6901.7 0 #DIV/0! Lavoy Allen, PF
6813.4 0 #DIV/0! Tiago Splitter, C
6769.1 0 #DIV/0! Trey Burke, PG
6489.2 0 #DIV/0! Jason Kapono, SG
6457.1 0 #DIV/0! Jamario Moon, SF
6423.2 0 #DIV/0! Hollis Thompson, SF
6044.1 0 #DIV/0! Lance Thomas, SF
5993.1 0 #DIV/0! Daequan Cook, SG
5814 0 #DIV/0! Matt Carroll, SG
5805.8 0 #DIV/0! Josh Childress, SF
5785.7 0 #DIV/0! Jarvis Hayes, SF
5664.5 0 #DIV/0! Steve Novak, SF
5646.4 0 #DIV/0! Langston Galloway, SG
5542.8 0 #DIV/0! Jon Leuer, PF
5341.8 0 #DIV/0! Dominic McGuire, PF
4990.4 0 #DIV/0! Joe Smith, PF
4928.7 0 #DIV/0! Jabari Parker, PF
4571.3 0 #DIV/0! Fred Jones, SG
4528 0 #DIV/0! Shane Larkin, PG
4479.8 0 #DIV/0! Josh Boone, PF
4320.6 0 #DIV/0! James Anderson, SG
4227 0 #DIV/0! Emmanuel Mudiay, PG
4140.3 0 #DIV/0! Willie Cauley-Stein, C
3941 0 #DIV/0! James Ennis III, SF
3751 0 #DIV/0! Donald Sloan, PG
3496.9 0 #DIV/0! Jerian Grant, PG
3383 0 #DIV/0! Malcolm Brogdon, PG
3369.4 0 #DIV/0! Cole Aldrich, C
3347.7 0 #DIV/0! Cartier Martin, PF
3300.3 0 #DIV/0! Chris Quinn, PG
3148 0 #DIV/0! Jimmer Fredette, PG
3124.2 0 #DIV/0! Ryan Kelly, PF
3104.9 0 #DIV/0! Buddy Hield, SG
3083 0 #DIV/0! Kendall Marshall, PG
3045.4 0 #DIV/0! Julian Wright, SF
2998.5 0 #DIV/0! Joe Harris, SG
2979.6 0 #DIV/0! Domantas Sabonis, C
2949.4 0 #DIV/0! Mike Muscala, PF
2920.8 0 #DIV/0! Terrence Williams, SG
2805.9 0 #DIV/0! Ray McCallum, PG
2766.3 0 #DIV/0! Mardy Collins, PG
2741.8 0 #DIV/0! Seth Curry, SG
2662.2 0 #DIV/0! Darius Miller, SF
2618.5 0 #DIV/0! Jeremy Evans, SF
2557 0 #DIV/0! Derrick Brown, SF
2541.9 0 #DIV/0! Caris LeVert, SG
2538.4 0 #DIV/0! Damon Stoudamire, PG
2464 0 #DIV/0! Denzel Valentine, SF
2347.5 0 #DIV/0! Mickael Gelabale, SF
2329.4 0 #DIV/0! Kevin Ollie, PG
2245.9 0 #DIV/0! Gustavo Ayon, PF
2199.3 0 #DIV/0! Glenn Robinson III, SG
2192.2 0 #DIV/0! Jacque Vaughn, PG
2131.9 0 #DIV/0! Malcolm Delaney, PG
2099.6 0 #DIV/0! Sam Dekker, SF
2073.8 0 #DIV/0! Jeff Withey, C
2020.3 0 #DIV/0! Tyler Ennis, PG
2015.4 0 #DIV/0! Phil Pressey, PG
1983.7 0 #DIV/0! Jorge Garbajosa, PF
1949.1 0 #DIV/0! Jarell Martin, PF
1940.8 0 #DIV/0! Walter Herrmann Heinrich, PF
1912.7 0 #DIV/0! Pascal Siakam, PF
1853.8 0 #DIV/0! John Jenkins, SG
1846.3 0 #DIV/0! Patrick McCaw, SG
1835.7 0 #DIV/0! Greg Smith, PF
1829 0 #DIV/0! Alex Abrines, SG
1763.3 0 #DIV/0! Kareem Rush, SG
1738.7 0 #DIV/0! Dorian Finney-Smith, SF
1687.6 0 #DIV/0! Bobby Brown, PG
1683.5 0 #DIV/0! Johnny O'Bryant III, PF
1675.9 0 #DIV/0! Perry Jones, SF
1641.7 0 #DIV/0! Lucas Nogueira, C
1639.4 0 #DIV/0! Damjan Rudez, SF
1637.3 0 #DIV/0! Rashad Vaughn, SG
1594.4 0 #DIV/0! Manny Harris, PG
1577.6 0 #DIV/0! Nate Wolters, PG
1574.1 0 #DIV/0! Kyle Kuzma, PF
1573.8 0 #DIV/0! Delon Wright, PG
1547.7 0 #DIV/0! Pat Connaughton, SG
1532.4 0 #DIV/0! Tomas Satoransky, SF
1529.9 0 #DIV/0! Quincy Douby, SG
1518.3 0 #DIV/0! Thon Maker, C
1513.6 0 #DIV/0! Paul Zipser, SF
1509 0 #DIV/0! Gary Forbes, F
1483.5 0 #DIV/0! Dan Dickau, PG
1472.5 0 #DIV/0! Elliot Williams, SG
1454.8 0 #DIV/0! Bryn Forbes, SG
1439.5 0 #DIV/0! Salim Stoudamire, SG
1419.4 0 #DIV/0! Lauri Markkanen, PF
1415.1 0 #DIV/0! Nando De Colo, PG
1399.7 0 #DIV/0! Robbie Hummel, SF
1392.6 0 #DIV/0! Dejounte Murray, PG
1377.8 0 #DIV/0! Kyle Weaver, SG
1350 0 #DIV/0! Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG
1335.5 0 #DIV/0! Tarence Kinsey, SG
1335 0 #DIV/0! Charles Jenkins, PG
1309.9 0 #DIV/0! Sundiata Gaines, PG
1308 0 #DIV/0! Adonal Foyle, C
1291.8 0 #DIV/0! David Nwaba, PG
1272.4 0 #DIV/0! Doron Lamb, SG
1270.7 0 #DIV/0! Sean Marks, PF
1243.7 0 #DIV/0! Ron Baker, SG
1232.8 0 #DIV/0! De'Aaron Fox, PG
1199 0 #DIV/0! Diante Garrett, PG
1144.8 0 #DIV/0! OG Anunoby, SF
1110.6 0 #DIV/0! Sergey Karasev, SG
1109.4 0 #DIV/0! Orlando Johnson, SG
1092.7 0 #DIV/0! John Collins, PF
1074.2 0 #DIV/0! Victor Claver, PF
1069.2 0 #DIV/0! Speedy Claxton, PG
1057.9 0 #DIV/0! Juan Hernangomez, PF
1048.2 0 #DIV/0! Christian Eyenga, SF
1045.7 0 #DIV/0! Oleksiy Pecherov, C
1035.4 0 #DIV/0! Darnell Jackson, PF
1015.2 0 #DIV/0! Mindaugas Kuzminskas, F
1000.2 0 #DIV/0! Brandon Davies, PF
990.3 0 #DIV/0! Roko-Leni Ukic, PG
966.6 0 #DIV/0! Lawrence Roberts, PF
959 0 #DIV/0! Kevon Looney, SF
956.8 0 #DIV/0! Michael Doleac, C
935.4 0 #DIV/0! Michael Ruffin, PF
935.3 0 #DIV/0! Quincy Miller, SF
927.7 0 #DIV/0! Semih Erden, C
927.3 0 #DIV/0! Lorenzo Brown, PG
898.3 0 #DIV/0! Treveon Graham, SG
891.2 0 #DIV/0! Adrian Griffin, SG
888.9 0 #DIV/0! Ryan Bowen, SF
874.5 0 #DIV/0! James Michael McAdoo, SF
872.9 0 #DIV/0! Luke Harangody, PF
867.3 0 #DIV/0! Maximilian Kleber, PF
855.6 0 #DIV/0! Luke Kennard, SG
855.6 0 #DIV/0! Pooh Jeter, PG
842.8 0 #DIV/0! Darrun Hilliard, SG
811 0 #DIV/0! Josh Huestis, SF
807.6 0 #DIV/0! Ben Uzoh, PG
804.2 0 #DIV/0! James Young, SG
800.1 0 #DIV/0! DeQuan Jones, SF
788.8 0 #DIV/0! David Noel, SF
786.6 0 #DIV/0! Jermaine Taylor, SG
786 0 #DIV/0! Chris Hunter, C
783 0 #DIV/0! Daniel Theis, PF
782.5 0 #DIV/0! Mike Wilks, PG
770.1 0 #DIV/0! Mike Taylor, PG
760.8 0 #DIV/0! Bernard James, C
759.8 0 #DIV/0! Anthony Brown, SF
742.7 0 #DIV/0! Joe Alexander, SF
741.6 0 #DIV/0! Dominique Jones, SG
738.3 0 #DIV/0! Mark Madsen, PF
727.7 0 #DIV/0! Arnett Moultrie, PF
723.7 0 #DIV/0! Maceo Baston, SF
721.5 0 #DIV/0! Justin Jackson, SF
720.2 0 #DIV/0! Deyonta Davis, C
715.8 0 #DIV/0! Shavlik Randolph, PF
713.7 0 #DIV/0! Daniel Ewing, PG
711.6 0 #DIV/0! Devin Ebanks, SF
711.1 0 #DIV/0! Dee Brown, PG
709.7 0 #DIV/0! Allan Ray, G
702.7 0 #DIV/0! Paul Davis, C
699.2 0 #DIV/0! Jawun Evans, PG
686 0 #DIV/0! Semi Ojeleye, PF
683.8 0 #DIV/0! DeAndre' Bembry, SF
675.5 0 #DIV/0! Ivica Zubac, C
673.2 0 #DIV/0! Travis Wear, SF
669.4 0 #DIV/0! Aaron Williams, C
646.9 0 #DIV/0! Troy Hudson, PG
643.5 0 #DIV/0! Raef LaFrentz, C
640 0 #DIV/0! Milos Teodosic, PG
639 0 #DIV/0! Calvin Booth, C
638.4 0 #DIV/0! Sindarius Thornwell, SG
636.4 0 #DIV/0! Jordan Williams, C
622.6 0 #DIV/0! Damion James, SF
612 0 #DIV/0! Isaiah Taylor, PG
605.5 0 #DIV/0! Jared Cunningham, SG
593 0 #DIV/0! Lester Hudson, SG
592.8 0 #DIV/0! Zach Collins, C
591.6 0 #DIV/0! Lazar Hayward, SF
581.2 0 #DIV/0! James White, SG
580.4 0 #DIV/0! Cory Jefferson, PF
575.2 0 #DIV/0! Troy Williams, SF
568.1 0 #DIV/0! Jabari Brown, SG
562.4 0 #DIV/0! Pat Garrity, PF
558.4 0 #DIV/0! Mitch McGary, PF
547.6 0 #DIV/0! Dwayne Jones II, PF
547.2 0 #DIV/0! Jordan Bell, PF
545.9 0 #DIV/0! Casey Jacobsen, SG
545.7 0 #DIV/0! Hassan Adams, SF
543.2 0 #DIV/0! C.J. Williams, SG
541.2 0 #DIV/0! Furkan Aldemir, PF
537.1 0 #DIV/0! Royce O'Neale, SF
534.8 0 #DIV/0! Malcolm Lee, SG
528.4 0 #DIV/0! Nicolas Brussino, SF
525.7 0 #DIV/0! Chris McCullough, PF
522.9 0 #DIV/0! Kay Felder, PG
520.9 0 #DIV/0! Patrick O'Bryant, C
518 0 #DIV/0! Malachi Richardson, SG
512.5 0 #DIV/0! Terrance Ferguson, SG
505.4 0 #DIV/0! Maurice Ager, SF
503.5 0 #DIV/0! Anthony Roberson, SG
502.6 0 #DIV/0! Dwight Buycks, PG
500.4 0 #DIV/0! Wesley Iwundu, SF
498 0 #DIV/0! Mike Harris, SF
489.9 0 #DIV/0! Jerome Jordan, C
489.5 0 #DIV/0! Tyshawn Taylor, PG
488.6 0 #DIV/0! Miroslav Raduljica, C
488.4 0 #DIV/0! Vitor Faverani, C
484.1 0 #DIV/0! Jorge Gutierrez, PG
476.4 0 #DIV/0! Andrew Goudelock, PG
475 0 #DIV/0! Malik Monk, SG
469.4 0 #DIV/0! Malik Hairston, SG
466.2 0 #DIV/0! Bo Outlaw, PF
463.5 0 #DIV/0! Tyrone Wallace, SG
462 0 #DIV/0! Dwayne Bacon, SF
457.2 0 #DIV/0! Devyn Marble, SF
457 0 #DIV/0! Terrel Harris, SG
454.7 0 #DIV/0! Justin Williams, PF
453.6 0 #DIV/0! Cory Higgins, PG
450.8 0 #DIV/0! Erick Green, PG
448 0 #DIV/0! Luigi Datome, SF
445.3 0 #DIV/0! DerMarr Johnson, SF
444 0 #DIV/0! Rob Kurz, SF
441.6 0 #DIV/0! Robert Swift, C
440.9 0 #DIV/0! Othyus Jeffers, SG
438.7 0 #DIV/0! Randolph Morris, C
435.5 0 #DIV/0! Lamar Patterson, SG
433.9 0 #DIV/0! Jordan Mickey, C
433.6 0 #DIV/0! Jermareo Davidson, PF
432.6 0 #DIV/0! Nathan Jawai, C
430.5 0 #DIV/0! Lynn Greer, PG
426 0 #DIV/0! Alando Tucker, SF
418 0 #DIV/0! Alan Henderson, PF
414 0 #DIV/0! Tyler Cavanaugh, PF
405.9 0 #DIV/0! Kim English, SG
405.9 0 #DIV/0! Wade Baldwin IV, PG
399.1 0 #DIV/0! Cheick Diallo, PF
399 0 #DIV/0! T.J. Leaf, PF
396.9 0 #DIV/0! Jarvis Varnado, PF
390.6 0 #DIV/0! Andre Owens, SG
390.3 0 #DIV/0! Toure' Murry, SF
390.1 0 #DIV/0! Jake Layman, SF
388.8 0 #DIV/0! Jake Tsakalidis, C
384 0 #DIV/0! Michael Sweetney, PF
382.7 0 #DIV/0! Chris Mihm, C
376.5 0 #DIV/0! CJ Wilcox, SG
374.4 0 #DIV/0! Torrey Craig, SG
371.3 0 #DIV/0! Donell Taylor, PG
366 0 #DIV/0! Luke Jackson, SF
363.7 0 #DIV/0! Julyan Stone, PG
360.9 0 #DIV/0! Morris Almond, SG
360 0 #DIV/0! Rawle Marshall, SF
358.4 0 #DIV/0! Walker Russell, PG
351.7 0 #DIV/0! Axel Toupane, SG
336.3 0 #DIV/0! Victor Khryapa, PF
334.6 0 #DIV/0! Gal Mekel, PG
332.8 0 #DIV/0! Kevin Jones, PF
331.8 0 #DIV/0! Cedi Osman, SF
329.6 0 #DIV/0! Malcolm Thomas, PF
327.8 0 #DIV/0! R.J. Hunter, SG
324.8 0 #DIV/0! Penny Hardaway, SF
324.8 0 #DIV/0! Tyler Dorsey, SG
320.2 0 #DIV/0! Orien Greene, PG
313.6 0 #DIV/0! Chris Wright, SF
308.2 0 #DIV/0! Alex Caruso, SG
303.6 0 #DIV/0! Kasib Powell, SF
303.4 0 #DIV/0! Sean Singletary, PG
302.4 0 #DIV/0! Stephane Lasme, PF
299.2 0 #DIV/0! Darius Miles, SF
299 0 #DIV/0! Chasson Randle, PG
298.8 0 #DIV/0! JaJuan Johnson, PF
292.5 0 #DIV/0! Jonathan Bender, SF
292.1 0 #DIV/0! Quinn Cook, PG
289.7 0 #DIV/0! Jerome James, C
288 0 #DIV/0! Sheldon Mac, SG
287 0 #DIV/0! Henry Ellenson, PF
285 0 #DIV/0! Slava Kravtsov, C
283.5 0 #DIV/0! Jonathan Isaac, PF
279 0 #DIV/0! Bernard Robinson, SG
278.6 0 #DIV/0! Bryce Dejean-Jones, SG
277.8 0 #DIV/0! Ricky Ledo, SG
274.5 0 #DIV/0! Jamil Wilson, SF
272.8 0 #DIV/0! Vassilis Spanoulis, PG
270.6 0 #DIV/0! D.J. Strawberry, SG
267.8 0 #DIV/0! Nick Fazekas, PF
264 0 #DIV/0! Jordan Adams, SG
263.2 0 #DIV/0! Nick Johnson, SG
260 0 #DIV/0! Awvee Storey, SF
259.2 0 #DIV/0! Mouhamed Sene, C
252.2 0 #DIV/0! Abdel Nader, SF
252.2 0 #DIV/0! Mickell Gladness, C
251.1 0 #DIV/0! Christian Wood, PF
249.2 0 #DIV/0! Rafael Araujo, C
249.1 0 #DIV/0! Tornike Shengelia, SF
247.8 0 #DIV/0! J.R. Giddens, SG
247.5 0 #DIV/0! Alex Poythress, SF
245.7 0 #DIV/0! Jeremy Richardson, SG
243 0 #DIV/0! Jared Reiner, C
241.8 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Georges-Hunt, SG
234.6 0 #DIV/0! Larry Drew II, PG
232.5 0 #DIV/0! Scott Padgett, PF
231.2 0 #DIV/0! Jonathan Gibson, PG
226.5 0 #DIV/0! Blake Ahearn, PG
226.5 0 #DIV/0! Gary Payton II, PG
226.4 0 #DIV/0! Rakeem Christmas, PF
223.2 0 #DIV/0! Peyton Siva, PG
217.7 0 #DIV/0! Larry Owens, SF
216.2 0 #DIV/0! Jarell Eddie, SG
213.9 0 #DIV/0! Marshall Plumlee, C
213.2 0 #DIV/0! Derrick Caracter, PF
211.5 0 #DIV/0! Maalik Wayns, PG
211.2 0 #DIV/0! Damyean Dotson, SG
200.1 0 #DIV/0! Cedric Bozeman, SG
200 0 #DIV/0! Alex Acker, G
198.8 0 #DIV/0! Ben Hansbrough, PG
198.4 0 #DIV/0! Dionte Christmas, SG
198.2 0 #DIV/0! Bryce Cotton, PG
197.2 0 #DIV/0! Eddie Gill, PG
196.2 0 #DIV/0! Khem Birch, C
194.6 0 #DIV/0! Danuel House Jr., SF
190 0 #DIV/0! Bracey Wright, SG
186.2 0 #DIV/0! Eric Piatkowski, SG
184.1 0 #DIV/0! Coby Karl, PG
180.6 0 #DIV/0! Solomon Alabi, C
180 0 #DIV/0! Jerome Dyson, PG
176.4 0 #DIV/0! Kobi Simmons, PG
174.6 0 #DIV/0! Jamaal Franklin, SG
174.6 0 #DIV/0! Nicolas Laprovittola, G
171.6 0 #DIV/0! DeMarcus Nelson, SG
171 0 #DIV/0! Damir Markota, PF
169.5 0 #DIV/0! Mustafa Shakur, PG
169.1 0 #DIV/0! Darryl Watkins, C
168.9 0 #DIV/0! Trey Johnson, SG
167.4 0 #DIV/0! Cameron Bairstow, PF
166.6 0 #DIV/0! Will Blalock, SG
165.1 0 #DIV/0! James Nunnally, SF
164.4 0 #DIV/0! Ognjen Kuzmic, C
163.3 0 #DIV/0! Pat Burke, C
163 0 #DIV/0! Richie Frahm, SG
162.8 0 #DIV/0! AJ Hammons, C
159 0 #DIV/0! Ivan Rabb, PF
158.2 0 #DIV/0! Danny Fortson, C
157.2 0 #DIV/0! Hamady Ndiaye, C
157 0 #DIV/0! James Augustine, PF
156 0 #DIV/0! Damien Inglis, SF
151.9 0 #DIV/0! Glen Rice Jr., SG
150.6 0 #DIV/0! Jarnell Stokes, PF
149.9 0 #DIV/0! Justin Harper, PF
149.3 0 #DIV/0! Shayne Whittington, PF
146.3 0 #DIV/0! Matt Freije, SF
145.8 0 #DIV/0! Darius Washington, PG
142.8 0 #DIV/0! Thomas Gardner, SG
141.6 0 #DIV/0! Dakari Johnson, C
141.6 0 #DIV/0! Nemanja Nedovic, PG
138.6 0 #DIV/0! Jumaine Jones, SF
137.6 0 #DIV/0! Caleb Swanigan, PF
137.2 0 #DIV/0! Derrick Walton Jr., PG
135.6 0 #DIV/0! Robert Hite, SG
135.1 0 #DIV/0! Myke Henry, F
134.9 0 #DIV/0! Willie Warren, SG
134.4 0 #DIV/0! Kyle Collinsworth, PG
134 0 #DIV/0! Vander Blue, SG
131.6 0 #DIV/0! Chris Babb, SG
131 0 #DIV/0! Aaron McKie, SG
130.8 0 #DIV/0! Russ Smith, PG
130.5 0 #DIV/0! Josh Davis, SF
127 0 #DIV/0! Ronald Dupree, SF
125.8 0 #DIV/0! Arinze Onuaku, PF
125.7 0 #DIV/0! Othello Hunter, SF
125.4 0 #DIV/0! Jamal Sampson, C
121.8 0 #DIV/0! Eric Williams, PF
121.2 0 #DIV/0! Craig Brackins, PF
120.9 0 #DIV/0! Tyler Honeycutt, SF
120 0 #DIV/0! Trey Thompkins, PF
118.5 0 #DIV/0! Carldell Johnson, PG
117.7 0 #DIV/0! Luke Schenscher, C
116.1 0 #DIV/0! Casper Ware, PG
115.2 0 #DIV/0! Jarrod Uthoff, SF
114 0 #DIV/0! Cheikh Samb, C
111.6 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Landry, SF
110 0 #DIV/0! Guerschon Yabusele, PF
109.4 0 #DIV/0! Aaron Harrison, SG
108.3 0 #DIV/0! Stephen Zimmerman, C
107.8 0 #DIV/0! Will Conroy, PG
106 0 #DIV/0! Bruno Caboclo, SF
103.4 0 #DIV/0! Jackie Butler, C
100.8 0 #DIV/0! Garret Siler, C
100.6 0 #DIV/0! Edy Tavares, C
100.2 0 #DIV/0! Kevinn Pinkney, PF
98 0 #DIV/0! James Webb III, SF
95.4 0 #DIV/0! Kelvin Cato, C
95.2 0 #DIV/0! Justin Dentmon, PG
95 0 #DIV/0! Courtney Fortson, PG
95 0 #DIV/0! Mychel Thompson, SF
95 0 #DIV/0! Sasha Kaun, C
93.1 0 #DIV/0! Damian Jones, C
93 0 #DIV/0! Georges Niang, F
92.8 0 #DIV/0! Wayne Simien, PF
92.3 0 #DIV/0! Eddie Griffin, PF
90.6 0 #DIV/0! Joel Bolomboy, PF
90 0 #DIV/0! Ryan Arcidiacono, PG
89.6 0 #DIV/0! Derrick White, PG
88.4 0 #DIV/0! Jack Cooley, PF
86 0 #DIV/0! Desmon Farmer, SG
84 0 #DIV/0! Dontell Jefferson, SG
84 0 #DIV/0! Pierre Jackson, PG
81.9 0 #DIV/0! Doug Christie, SG
81.6 0 #DIV/0! Tibor Pleiss, C
81.2 0 #DIV/0! Slava Medvedenko, PF
81 0 #DIV/0! Alec Peters, PF
80.6 0 #DIV/0! Andreas Glyniadakis, C
80.6 0 #DIV/0! Antonius Cleveland, SG
80.6 0 #DIV/0! Esteban Batista, PF
80.6 0 #DIV/0! Demetrius Jackson, PG
80 0 #DIV/0! Tim Quarterman, SG
79.8 0 #DIV/0! Tony Mitchell, PF
76 0 #DIV/0! Markelle Fultz, PG
75.6 0 #DIV/0! Zhou Qi, PF
75.2 0 #DIV/0! Zoran Dragic, SG
74.8 0 #DIV/0! Taurean Green, PG
74.4 0 #DIV/0! Cedric Jackson, G
74.1 0 #DIV/0! Daniel Ochefu, PF
72.8 0 #DIV/0! Alex Stepheson, PF
72 0 #DIV/0! Uros Slokar, PF
71.1 0 #DIV/0! Drew Gordon, C
69.3 0 #DIV/0! Josh Magette, PG
68.8 0 #DIV/0! Will Cherry, PG
66 0 #DIV/0! Sherron Collins, PG
64.8 0 #DIV/0! Julius Hodge, SG
63.7 0 #DIV/0! Gian Clavell, SG
63 0 #DIV/0! Milton Doyle, SG
62.4 0 #DIV/0! Erik Jay Murphy, PF
59.4 0 #DIV/0! D.J. Wilson, PF
59 0 #DIV/0! D.J. Kennedy, SG
57.6 0 #DIV/0! Luke Zeller, PF
57.4 0 #DIV/0! Demetris Nichols, SF
57 0 #DIV/0! Josh Gray, PG
55 0 #DIV/0! Jamel Artis, SG
55 0 #DIV/0! James Lang, C
54 0 #DIV/0! Andre Barrett, SG
54 0 #DIV/0! Kris Joseph, SF
52.7 0 #DIV/0! Kevin Murphy, SG
52 0 #DIV/0! Chinanu Onuaku, C
52 0 #DIV/0! Edwin Ubiles, SF
51.2 0 #DIV/0! Grant Jerrett, PF
50 0 #DIV/0! Luis Montero, SG
49.8 0 #DIV/0! Dijon Thompson, SF
46.8 0 #DIV/0! Brice Johnson, PF
46 0 #DIV/0! Jerry Smith, PG
45 0 #DIV/0! Andre Emmett, SG
45 0 #DIV/0! Travis Leslie, PG
44 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Haislip, F
43.4 0 #DIV/0! Kyle Wiltjer, F
43 0 #DIV/0! Kevin Willis, C
43 0 #DIV/0! Patricio Garino, SG
42.9 0 #DIV/0! Alfonzo McKinnie, SF
41.8 0 #DIV/0! Billy Thomas, SG
41 0 #DIV/0! Yaroslav Korolev, SF
40.8 0 #DIV/0! Ante Zizic, PF
40.7 0 #DIV/0! Ivan McFarlin, PF
39.3 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Williams, SG
39.2 0 #DIV/0! Eric Dawson, PF
39.2 0 #DIV/0! Jeff Foote, C
39 0 #DIV/0! Darington Hobson, SG
39 0 #DIV/0! Xavier Silas, SG
37.8 0 #DIV/0! Carrick Felix, SG
37.8 0 #DIV/0! Kosta Perovic, C
37.2 0 #DIV/0! Adonis Thomas, SG
37 0 #DIV/0! Derrick Byars, SF
36 0 #DIV/0! Cliff Alexander, PF
36 0 #DIV/0! Davon Reed, SG
36 0 #DIV/0! Fab Melo, C
36 0 #DIV/0! Jerel McNeal, SG
34.3 0 #DIV/0! Pape Sow, PF
33 0 #DIV/0! David Stockton, PG
33 0 #DIV/0! Jacob Wiley, SF
33 0 #DIV/0! Jelani McCoy, PF
32.4 0 #DIV/0! Michael Gbinije, SG
32 0 #DIV/0! Taylor Griffin, PF
31.8 0 #DIV/0! Furkan Korkmaz, SG
30 0 #DIV/0! James Southerland, SF
29.2 0 #DIV/0! Patrick Christopher, SG
28.8 0 #DIV/0! Branden Dawson, SF
28.7 0 #DIV/0! Jalen Jones, SF
28 0 #DIV/0! Ike Anigbogu, C
28 0 #DIV/0! Steven Smith, SF
28 0 #DIV/0! Sun Yue, SG
28 0 #DIV/0! Tony Bradley, C
27.3 0 #DIV/0! Kadeem Allen, SG
27 0 #DIV/0! Keith Appling, PG
27 0 #DIV/0! Renaldo Major, SF
26 0 #DIV/0! Randy Livingston, PG
25 0 #DIV/0! Mike Tobey, C
24.1 0 #DIV/0! Courtney Sims, C
24 0 #DIV/0! Andy Rautins, SG
24 0 #DIV/0! Daniel Hamilton, SG
24 0 #DIV/0! Duje Dukan, PF
23 0 #DIV/0! Joe Crawford, SG
22.4 0 #DIV/0! Dennis Horner, PF
22 0 #DIV/0! Andre Dawkins, SG
22 0 #DIV/0! Jabari Bird, SG
22 0 #DIV/0! Luke Kornet, PF
22 0 #DIV/0! Oliver Lafayette, G
21 0 #DIV/0! Darius Johnson-Odom, SG
21 0 #DIV/0! Pape Sy, SF
21 0 #DIV/0! Scott Machado, PG
20.3 0 #DIV/0! Charles Cooke, SG
20 0 #DIV/0! Walter Sharpe, PF
19.2 0 #DIV/0! Thomas Bryant, C
18.9 0 #DIV/0! Patrick Ewing Jr., SF
18 0 #DIV/0! Guillermo Diaz, SG
18 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Cousin, C
18 0 #DIV/0! Matt Costello, SF
17.2 0 #DIV/0! John Holland, SG
17 0 #DIV/0! Isaiah Hicks, PF
16.8 0 #DIV/0! Loren Woods, C
15 0 #DIV/0! Antonio Anderson, SG
15 0 #DIV/0! D.J. Stephens, SG
14 0 #DIV/0! Alex Kirk, C
13 0 #DIV/0! Mike Hall, F
12.9 0 #DIV/0! Malcolm Miller, SF
12.9 0 #DIV/0! Roger Powell, SF
12.9 0 #DIV/0! Vitaly Potapenko, C
12 0 #DIV/0! Chris McCray, SG
12 0 #DIV/0! Kaniel Dickens, SF
12 0 #DIV/0! Shane Edwards, SF
12 0 #DIV/0! Tim Ohlbrecht, PF
11.1 0 #DIV/0! Matt Williams Jr., SG
11 0 #DIV/0! Elias Harris, SF
11 0 #DIV/0! Nigel Hayes, SF
10 0 #DIV/0! Alvin Williams, PG
10 0 #DIV/0! Keith Langford, SG
9.9 0 #DIV/0! Ben Bentil, PF
9.9 0 #DIV/0! Lance Allred, C
9.9 0 #DIV/0! Mangok Mathiang, PF
9.9 0 #DIV/0! Tony Mitchell, SF
9 0 #DIV/0! Ben Moore, PF
9 0 #DIV/0! Josh Akognon, PG
9 0 #DIV/0! Keith Benson, PF
9 0 #DIV/0! Royce White, PF
7.2 0 #DIV/0! Vince Hunter, SF
7 0 #DIV/0! Dajuan Wagner, SG
7 0 #DIV/0! David Wear, PF
7 0 #DIV/0! Scotty Hopson, SG
6 0 #DIV/0! Coty Clarke, PF
6 0 #DIV/0! J.J. O'Brien, SF
6 0 #DIV/0! Jacob Pullen, PG
6 0 #DIV/0! Kalin Lucas, PG
6 0 #DIV/0! Mile Ilic, C
6 0 #DIV/0! Thanasis Antetokounmpo, SF
5 0 #DIV/0! Trey Gilder, SF
4 0 #DIV/0! Johnathan Motley, PF
3.9 0 #DIV/0! Chris Wright, PG
3 0 #DIV/0! Jerrelle Benimon, PF
3 0 #DIV/0! London Perrantes, PG
3 0 #DIV/0! Marcus Paige, PG
3 0 #DIV/0! Monte Morris, PG
3 0 #DIV/0! Reggie Hearn, SG
3 0 #DIV/0! Sim Bhullar, C
2 0 #DIV/0! Chris Smith, PG
2 0 #DIV/0! Erik McCree, SF
2 0 #DIV/0! Gani Lawal, PF
2 0 #DIV/0! PJ Dozier, PG
2 0 #DIV/0! Steven Hill, C
2 0 #DIV/0! Tyler Lydon, PF
1 0 #DIV/0! Naz Mitrou-Long, G
0 0 #DIV/0! JamesOn Curry, PG
8817.5 1 8818 Patty Mills, PG
8309.7 1 8310 Keyon Dooling, PG
8001.6 1 8002 Chase Budinger, SF
7518.3 1 7518 Alec Burks, SG
7335.2 1 7335 Michael Redd, SG
6044 1 6044 Yi Jianlian, SF
6017 1 6017 Jeremy Lamb, SG
6008.3 1 6008 Landry Fields, SG
5530.6 1 5531 Jannero Pargo, PG
5523.9 1 5524 Nik Stauskas, SG
5283 1 5283 Quinton Ross, SF
5280.5 1 5281 Sergio Rodriguez, PG
5278.2 1 5278 Ekpe Udoh, C
5211.7 1 5212 Brian Roberts, PG
5186.5 1 5187 Miles Plumlee, C
5026.4 1 5026 Kelenna Azubuike, SF
4989.3 1 4989 Justin Holiday, SG
4827.6 1 4828 T.J. McConnell, PG
4699.6 1 4700 Earl Boykins, PG
9152.9 2 4576 Omer Asik, C
9078.8 2 4539 Alonzo Gee, SF
8799.8 2 4400 E'Twaun Moore, SG
4384.7 1 4385 Fabricio Oberto, C
4378.7 1 4379 Chris Douglas-Roberts, SG
8709.3 2 4355 Roger Mason Jr., SG
8500.3 2 4250 Ish Smith, PG
4156.1 1 4156 Wally Szczerbiak, SG
4134.9 1 4135 Austin Daye, SF
8038.3 2 4019 Charlie Bell, SG
3937.2 1 3937 Kyle Anderson, SF
3924.8 1 3925 A.J. Price, PG
7792.2 2 3896 Kyle Singler, SF
3891.2 1 3891 Eric Maynor, PG
7511.4 2 3756 Toney Douglas, PG
7491.1 2 3746 Marquis Daniels, SG
3734.5 1 3735 Reggie Williams, SF
3608.2 1 3608 Dwight Powell, PF
7210.8 2 3605 Matthew Dellavedova, PG
3582.6 1 3583 Tony Battie, C
7067.4 2 3534 Michael Finley, SG
7052.8 2 3526 Joel Anthony, PF
3516.1 1 3516 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG
6755.8 2 3378 Tyler Zeller, C
3330.3 1 3330 Sonny Weems, SG
9834.4 3 3278 Jordan Farmar, PG
3259.7 1 3260 Mario Hezonja, SG
6501.7 2 3251 Shelvin Mack, PG
9749.2 3 3250 Andris Biedrins, C
3202.6 1 3203 Troy Daniels, SG
3155.4 1 3155 Shabazz Napier, PG
3130.9 1 3131 Tarik Black, PF
6209.2 2 3105 Zach LaVine, PG
3104.5 1 3105 Dan Gadzuric, C
3092.9 1 3093 Marcus Williams, PG
6107.9 2 3054 Nenad Krstic, C
3048 1 3048 Dante Exum, PG
3039.2 1 3039 Brent Barry, SG
3017.6 1 3018 Jahlil Okafor, C
5978.2 2 2989 Johan Petro, C
8917.5 3 2973 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, SF
8857.4 3 2952 Derrick Williams, PF
2894.7 1 2895 Rodrigue Beaubois, PG
2874.5 1 2875 Ian Clark, SG
2873.9 1 2874 MarShon Brooks, SG
2852.2 1 2852 Norman Powell, SF
8512.6 3 2838 Cory Joseph, PG
2802 1 2802 Yogi Ferrell, PG
2772.1 1 2772 Greg Buckner, SG
2756.3 1 2756 Sean Kilpatrick, SG
2745.9 1 2746 Robert Sacre, C
2727.3 1 2727 Brian Scalabrine, PF
5356.8 2 2678 Devin Brown, SG
2611.9 1 2612 Yakhouba Diawara, SG
5201.1 2 2601 Trenton Hassell, SF
7696.9 3 2566 Bojan Bogdanovic, SF
7688 3 2563 Jordan Hill, C
2514.8 1 2515 Eddie Jones, SG
5011.2 2 2506 Myles Turner, C
7506.6 3 2502 Gary Neal, PG
2456.7 1 2457 Jan Vesely, PF
4859.7 2 2430 Doug McDermott, SF
4806.2 2 2403 DeSagana Diop, C
2384.9 1 2385 Tyus Jones, PG
2381.6 1 2382 Acie Law, PG
4646.8 2 2323 Shabazz Muhammad, SG
4592.7 2 2296 Rodney Carney, SG
6843.4 3 2281 Cody Zeller, C
4535.3 2 2268 Joey Graham, SF
2254.2 1 2254 Jarron Collins, C
6694.2 3 2231 Gary Harris, SG
2220.6 1 2221 Raul Neto, PG
6649.4 3 2216 Allen Crabbe, SG
8846.2 4 2212 Gorgui Dieng, C
4410.2 2 2205 Clint Capela, C
4288.7 2 2144 Mark Blount, C
2115.6 1 2116 Juan Carlos Navarro, PG
2111 1 2111 D.J. White, PF
2098.8 1 2099 Jordan Hamilton, SG
6285.2 3 2095 Aaron Gordon, PF
6226.1 3 2075 Mike James, PG
4080.1 2 2040 Andrew Nicholson, PF
6102.6 3 2034 Jerami Grant, SF
8022 4 2006 Norris Cole, PG
8006.3 4 2002 Ben McLemore, SG
5998.7 3 2000 Ronald Murray, SG
7966.1 4 1992 James Jones, SG
3970.2 2 1985 Brandon Ingram, SF
1965.6 1 1966 Rodney McGruder, SG
1963 1 1963 Justin Hamilton, C
5848.1 3 1949 Solomon Hill, SF
7785.6 4 1946 Peja Stojakovic, SF
1943.6 1 1944 Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, SG
1939.9 1 1940 Theo Ratliff, C
1939.4 1 1939 Earl Barron, C
3814.8 2 1907 Justise Winslow, SF
7599.8 4 1900 Robert Covington, SF
1883 1 1883 Willie Reed, C
3734.1 2 1867 Jonathon Simmons, SF
1859.9 1 1860 Dragan Bender, PF
5543.6 3 1848 Nerlens Noel, C
3679.4 2 1840 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, SF
9171.3 5 1834 Maurice Harkless, SF
1819.3 1 1819 Jason Hart, PG
1817.5 1 1818 Isaiah Whitehead, SG
3633 2 1817 Larry Nance Jr., PF
3560.5 2 1780 Trey Lyles, PF
1767.3 1 1767 Ike Diogu, PF
1755.2 1 1755 Cristiano Felicio, C
1755 1 1755 Ben Simmons, PG
5166.6 3 1722 Aron Baynes, C
1692.8 1 1693 Melvin Ely, C
3381 2 1691 Hilton Armstrong, PF
6742 4 1686 Nikola Pekovic, C
6655.7 4 1664 Andre Roberson, SG
8274.1 5 1655 Al Thornton, SF
3270.4 2 1635 Alexey Shved, PG
1616.7 1 1617 Donovan Mitchell, SG
1603.8 1 1604 Jakob Poeltl, C
4786.5 3 1596 Rasho Nesterovic, C
1584.8 1 1585 Derek Anderson, SG
1569.9 1 1570 Davis Bertans, SF
1567.3 1 1567 Jon Brockman, PF
1558.8 1 1559 Willy Hernangomez, C
4610.6 3 1537 Josh Richardson, SF
7677.2 5 1535 Jordan Clarkson, PG
7671.3 5 1534 Tim Hardaway Jr., SF
3057.1 2 1529 Renaldo Balkman, SF
4556.3 3 1519 Donatas Motiejunas, PF
8949.9 6 1492 Damien Wilkins, SG
2948.1 2 1474 Jaylen Brown, SG
1464.1 1 1464 Darius Morris, PG
2922.9 2 1461 Nemanja Bjelica, PF
2907.4 2 1454 Xavier Henry, SG
5671 4 1418 Nikola Mirotic, PF
8500.4 6 1417 Maurice Evans, SG
2822.7 2 1411 Brian Cardinal, PF
2817.4 2 1409 John Lucas III, PG
7022.1 5 1404 Kelly Olynyk, C
4171.3 3 1390 Isaiah Canaan, PG
8299.9 6 1383 Mason Plumlee, C
2743.8 2 1372 Tyronn Lue, PG
5486.8 4 1372 Luther Head, PG
1366.5 1 1367 Skal Labissiere, PF
4080.2 3 1360 Bobby Simmons, SF
1347.8 1 1348 Lindsey Hunter, SG
4032.1 3 1344 Matt Harpring, SF
8009.6 6 1335 Will Barton, SG
3964.5 3 1322 Sam Young, SF
2640.7 2 1320 Joffrey Lauvergne, C
2634.9 2 1317 Taurean Prince, SF
5244.9 4 1311 Mike Scott, PF
2617.3 2 1309 Damon Jones, PG
2605.6 2 1303 Chris Singleton, SF
2592.7 2 1296 Reggie Bullock, SF
6452.4 5 1290 Will Bynum, PG
6425.3 5 1285 Kevin Seraphin, C
2567.6 2 1284 Jeffery Taylor, SF
1282.9 1 1283 Austin Croshere, PF
2543.8 2 1272 Henry Sims, C
1269.9 1 1270 Didier Ilunga-Mbenga, C
6346.6 5 1269 Yao Ming, C
5018.1 4 1255 Tyler Johnson, SG
1246 1 1246 Fred VanVleet, PG
9896.8 8 1237 Hakim Warrick, PF
7419.5 6 1237 Jared Jeffries, PF
9773.6 8 1222 Terrence Ross, SG
1220.4 1 1220 Lonzo Ball, PG
2413.4 2 1207 Travis Diener, PG
2397.4 2 1199 Festus Ezeli, C
2396.5 2 1198 Von Wafer, SG
3575.5 3 1192 Devean George, SF
2370.9 2 1185 Tyler Ulis, PG
9314.9 8 1164 Daniel Gibson, SG
1157.3 1 1157 Cameron Payne, PG
1149.8 1 1150 Jawad Williams, SF
3410.6 3 1137 Juan Dixon, SG
2269.3 2 1135 Chris Johnson, SG
1122.9 1 1123 Elijah Millsap, SG
8981.8 8 1123 CJ McCollum, SG
3363.6 3 1121 Jamal Murray, PG
2232.8 2 1116 Eric Snow, PG
1106.1 1 1106 Marcelo Huertas, PG
4378.5 4 1095 Royal Ivey, PG
1089.3 1 1089 Kostas Papanikolaou, SF
6523.7 6 1087 Joe Ingles, SF
2144.6 2 1072 Jeff Adrien, SF
4256.2 4 1064 Donte Greene, SF
1060 1 1060 Frank Ntilikina, PG
3178.4 3 1059 Noah Vonleh, PF
2114.9 2 1057 Chris Copeland, SF
6286 6 1048 Rodney Hood, SG
8308.2 8 1039 Elfrid Payton, PG
5191.9 5 1038 Luke Babbitt, SF
2061.3 2 1031 Stromile Swift, PF
7141.7 7 1020 Ronnie Price, PG
2025 2 1013 Greg Oden, C
8084.2 8 1011 Chris Andersen, PF
2018.3 2 1009 Gordan Giricek, SG
7057.1 7 1008 DeJuan Blair, C
3017.2 3 1006 Bobby Portis, PF
9033.9 9 1004 Keith Bogans, SG
2006.7 2 1003 Nick Calathes, SG
9026.4 9 1003 JaVale McGee, C
999.6 1 1000 Josh Hart, SG
8905.3 9 989 Darrell Arthur, PF
1978.5 2 989 Sean Williams, PF
2941.3 3 980 Malik Allen, PF
9735.8 10 974 Iman Shumpert, SG
972.8 1 973 Semaj Christon, PG
972.6 1 973 Boban Marjanovic, C
4860 5 972 Frank Kaminsky, PF
9712.6 10 971 Jonas Jerebko, PF
970.2 1 970 Sarunas Jasikevicius, PG
7692 8 962 Erick Dampier, C
5762.7 6 960 Mirza Teletovic, PF
1908.6 2 954 Anthony Bennett, PF
9516.1 10 952 Greivis Vasquez, PG
1891.4 2 946 Donyell Marshall, PF
6528.7 7 933 Jared Sullinger, C
5586.1 6 931 Shelden Williams, C
5566.1 6 928 Ime Udoka, SG
1851.8 2 926 Javaris Crittenton, PG
3674.5 4 919 Rashad McCants, SG
6418.2 7 917 Bruce Bowen, SF
2745.9 3 915 Stephen Graham, SF
3625.2 4 906 Earl Clark, SF
2709.8 3 903 Antoine Walker, PF
888.2 1 888 Josh Harrellson, C
9767.7 11 888 Jason Smith, PF
5312.6 6 885 Anthony Carter, PG
6193.5 7 885 Alex Len, C
877.9 1 878 Joe Young, PG
4348.2 5 870 Marko Jaric, PG
3472.1 4 868 Chucky Atkins, PG
6074.7 7 868 Sasha Pavlovic, SG
865.5 1 866 Bobby Jones, SF
1730.4 2 865 Jayson Tatum, SF
1721.7 2 861 Samardo Samuels, PF
855.4 1 855 Jarrett Allen, C
5962.5 7 852 Rudy Fernandez, SG
837.6 1 838 Marquis Teague, PG
3340.4 4 835 Brian Skinner, PF
1663.2 2 832 P.J. Brown, PF
829.2 1 829 Nolan Smith, PG
6611.1 8 826 Gilbert Arenas, PG
824.8 1 825 Ira Newble, SF
4107.1 5 821 Dewayne Dedmon, C
818.3 1 818 DaJuan Summers, SF
2432.9 3 811 JaKarr Sampson, SF
8885.8 11 808 Antonio McDyess, PF
802.1 1 802 Cleanthony Early, SF
795.3 1 795 Mario West, SG
3963.4 5 793 Stephon Marbury, PG
8685.6 11 790 Ian Mahinmi, C
3156.7 4 789 Tim Frazier, PG
7852.4 10 785 T.J. Ford, PG
779.6 1 780 Chris Richard, PF
1545.7 2 773 Marcus Banks, PG
7664.4 10 766 Karl-Anthony Towns, C
2292.9 3 764 Richaun Holmes, PF
5342.2 7 763 Carlos Arroyo, PG
6868 9 763 Vladimir Radmanovic, SF
5256.9 7 751 Darius Songaila, PF
3665.3 5 733 Dario Saric, PF
1465.8 2 733 Sean May, C
7324.4 10 732 Shannon Brown, PG
2915.8 4 729 Terry Rozier, PG
8677.4 12 723 Mickael Pietrus, SF
720 1 720 Keith McLeod, PG
4974.8 7 711 Antonio Daniels, PG
710.2 1 710 Will Solomon, PG
9888.1 14 706 Evan Fournier, SF
704.6 1 705 Cedric Simmons, SF
1400.8 2 700 Adreian Payne, PF
2093.1 3 698 KJ McDaniels, SG
5558 8 695 Kyle O'Quinn, C
5552 8 694 Terrence Jones, PF
6230.8 9 692 Alan Anderson, SG
4820.3 7 689 Morris Peterson, SG
1339.6 2 670 Corliss Williamson, PF
5343.9 8 668 Antoine Wright, SF
7326.4 11 666 Larry Hughes, SG
7898.9 12 658 Dennis Schröder, PG
4576.7 7 654 D'Angelo Russell, PG
1305.6 2 653 Alexander Johnson, SF
4563.4 7 652 Pablo Prigioni, PG
3910.1 6 652 Alexis Ajinca, C
1949.9 3 650 Chris Webber, C
5764.8 9 641 Kristaps Porzingis, PF
2521.8 4 630 Kris Dunn, PG
8117.5 13 624 Chris Wilcox, PF
624 1 624 Malik Beasley, SG
6851.7 11 623 Luke Walton, SF
3736.1 6 623 Jonny Flynn, PG
6819.8 11 620 Craig Smith, PF
3089.7 5 618 Solomon Jones, PF
3075 5 615 Tony Wroten, SG
5505.4 9 612 Lou Amundson, PF
4237.1 7 605 Stanley Johnson, SF
2394.6 4 599 Archie Goodwin, SG
1780.8 3 594 Markel Brown, SG
3534.3 6 589 Josh Powell, PF
7624.1 13 586 Kurt Thomas, PF
9357.3 16 585 Tracy McGrady, SG
5262.6 9 585 Nikola Jokic, C
7461.1 13 574 Darko Milicic, C
3441.3 6 574 Byron Mullens, C
5133.4 9 570 Meyers Leonard, C
6107.9 11 555 Eddie House, SG
1105.2 2 553 Kyrylo Fesenko, C
552.3 1 552 Okaro White, PF
8281.5 15 552 Josh McRoberts, PF
7727.4 14 552 Michael Carter-Williams, PG
3811.7 7 545 Francisco Elson, C
8145.4 15 543 Timofey Mozgov, C
542.3 1 542 Junior Harrington, PG
539.4 1 539 Frank Mason III, PG
1077.6 2 539 Jeremy Pargo, PG
2112.4 4 528 Jeff McInnis, PG
1031.9 2 516 Jeremy Tyler, C
509.6 1 510 Pops Mensah-Bonsu, PF
1512 3 504 Dillon Brooks, SF
5524.8 11 502 Tim Thomas, PF
2511 5 502 Andrew Harrison, SG
5011.3 10 501 Jason Collins, C
2499.2 5 500 James Singleton, SF
5445.5 11 495 TJ Warren, SF
8890.3 18 494 Austin Rivers, PG
493 1 493 Briante Weber, PG
1958.7 4 490 Etan Thomas, C
5376.7 11 489 Shawne Williams, SF
6790.3 14 485 Jeff Foster, PF
7266.7 15 484 Ricky Davis, SG
480.2 1 480 Brandon Paul, SG
3312.6 7 473 Leon Powe, PF
2839 6 473 Ruben Patterson, PF
472.6 1 473 Georgios Papagiannis, C
9433.8 20 472 Rafer Alston, PG
7062.7 15 471 Sasha Vujacic, SG
1880.2 4 470 Steven Hunter, C
1404.7 3 468 Primoz Brezec, C
4208.7 9 468 Thomas Robinson, PF
4206.3 9 467 Bobby Jackson, PG
933.8 2 467 Bam Adebayo, C
461.1 1 461 Gabe Pruitt, PG
3192.7 7 456 Bostjan Nachbar, SF
9025.1 20 451 Steven Adams, C
8029.1 18 446 Dahntay Jones, SG
1778.6 4 445 Malik Rose, PF
5725.4 13 440 Julius Randle, PF
1317.8 3 439 Lorenzen Wright, PF
5677.6 13 437 Kwame Brown, C
3050.8 7 436 Smush Parker, PG
3885.7 9 432 Brevin Knight, PG
1723.8 4 431 DeAndre Liggins, SG
2585.5 6 431 Brian Cook, PF
4717.7 11 429 Anthony Johnson, PG
3851.2 9 428 Aaron Gray, C
9401.2 22 427 Josh Howard, SF
7231.7 17 425 Tyler Hansbrough, PF
3784.8 9 421 Kelly Oubre Jr., SF
1260.3 3 420 David Andersen, C
4612.7 11 419 JaMychal Green, PF
7125 17 419 Nazr Mohammed, C
2087.1 5 417 Joel Embiid, C
2068.6 5 414 Kenny Thomas, PF
5749.2 14 411 Jason Williams, PG
3278.6 8 410 Adam Morrison, SF
8125 20 406 Rudy Gobert, C
8917.3 22 405 Delonte West, SG
7269.7 18 404 Marcus Smart, PG
5240.3 13 403 Quincy Pondexter, SG
8445.3 21 402 James Posey, SF
6817.5 17 401 Hassan Whiteside, C
2001.9 5 400 P.J. Hairston, SF
9147.2 23 398 Allen Iverson, SG
2358.4 6 393 Hasheem Thabeet, C
1964.5 5 393 Pero Antic, PF
777.7 2 389 Alan Williams, PF
9288 24 387 Quentin Richardson, SF
2320.2 6 387 Jeff Ayres, PF
8090.3 21 385 Kent Bazemore, SG
769.6 2 385 Derrick Jones Jr., SF
3842.1 10 384 Anthony Randolph, SF
6833.3 18 380 Jordan Crawford, SG
4909.5 13 378 Jerry Stackhouse, SF
7861.4 21 374 Ronny Turiaf, C
5968.5 16 373 Jamaal Tinsley, PG
1488.4 4 372 Joey Dorsey, PF
2201 6 367 Justin Anderson, SG
361.2 1 361 Darrick Martin, PG
9657.5 27 358 Reggie Evans, C
4965.5 14 355 Eduardo Najera, PF
353.5 1 354 David Wesley, SG
1055.8 3 352 Hamed Haddadi, C
4561.2 13 351 Eddy Curry, C
5907.1 17 347 Cuttino Mobley, SG
346.9 1 347 Dexter Pittman, C
345 1 345 Shammond Williams, PG
1367.7 4 342 Dennis Smith Jr., PG
1024.8 3 342 Marc Jackson, PF
1707 5 341 Robert Horry, PF
4430.2 13 341 Jusuf Nurkic, C
3045.7 9 338 Greg Stiemsma, C
329.6 1 330 Maurice Ndour, SF
319.8 1 320 Justin Reed, SF
8599 27 318 Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C
955 3 318 Clifford Robinson, PF
3017.6 10 302 Henry Walker, SF
599.1 2 300 Chris Johnson, C
598.1 2 299 Andre Brown, PF
297 1 297 Josh Selby, PG
292.8 1 293 Zabian Dowdell, PG
6146.1 21 293 Ryan Hollins, C
7284.6 25 291 John Henson, PF
580.6 2 290 Jordan McRae, SG
5414.9 19 285 Juwan Howard, PF
5402.4 19 284 Desmond Mason, SF
281.8 1 282 Scot Pollard, C
1970.2 7 281 Ivan Johnson, PF
9506.8 34 280 Brad Miller, C
836.4 3 279 Linton Johnson, PF
7931.7 29 274 Tyrus Thomas, PF
542 2 271 Daniel Orton, C
9168.2 34 270 Sebastian Telfair, PG
2685.4 10 269 Sam Cassell, PG
1321.2 5 264 Kirk Snyder, SG
7661.6 29 264 Linas Kleiza, SF
7875.3 30 263 Andres Nocioni, SF
6297.2 24 262 Devin Booker, SG
1826.6 7 261 Joel Freeland, C
2067 8 258 Shareef Abdur-Rahim, PF
254.7 1 255 Xavier Munford, PG
7128 28 255 Shaquille O'Neal, C
8620 34 254 Patrick Beverley, PG
1502.8 6 250 Gary Payton, PG
246.5 1 247 Jalen Rose, SG
3588.1 15 239 Jamaal Magloire, C
6201.2 26 239 Mikki Moore, C
6185.7 26 238 Joel Przybilla, C
235.2 1 235 Michael Olowokandi, C
234 1 234 Shawn Long, PF
464.6 2 232 Dale Davis, PF
1821.7 8 228 Darrell Armstrong, PG
4883.4 22 222 Quincy Acy, SF
2153 10 215 Bonzi Wells, SG
1670.5 8 209 Jake Voskuhl, C
1435.4 7 205 Steve Francis, PG
401.6 2 201 Armon Johnson, PG
9659.7 50 193 Kenyon Martin, PF
386 2 193 Othella Harrington, PF
2006.4 11 182 Dikembe Mutombo, C
2152.7 12 179 Montrezl Harrell, PF
1960.8 11 178 Alonzo Mourning, C
1236.6 7 177 Josh Jackson, SF
1923 11 175 Salah Mejri, C
2764.2 16 173 Marquese Chriss, PF
171.6 1 172 Marquinhos Vieira, SF
170.4 1 170 Antonio Blakeney, SG
626.6 4 157 Wayne Selden, SG
4636.2 31 150 Larry Sanders, PF
544.6 4 136 Eric Moreland, PF
135.7 1 136 Vernon Macklin, PF
400.4 3 133 Sterling Brown, SG
893.6 7 128 David Harrison, C
8969.8 73 123 Rasheed Wallace, PF
103.2 2 52 Maurice Taylor, PF
23.8 1 24 Diamond Stone, C
17 1 17 Ryan Reid, PF

[BKay Jewelers]

Is there a reason you don't just have a NBA stats blog?

[eric]

Feb 9, 2018 14:15:43 GMT -6 BKay Jewelers said:

Is there a reason you don't just have a NBA stats blog?

thanks billy

this works for me

[BKay Jewelers]

Feb 9, 2018 15:02:54 GMT -6 eric said:

Feb 9, 2018 14:15:43 GMT -6 BKay Jewelers said:

Is there a reason you don't just have a NBA stats blog?

thanks billy

this works for me

Doesn't work for all the potential interested readers who don't get to read this stuff.

[eric]

Rookies of the Year Are Kinda Bad Now

In NBA history, the longest gap between ROYs who went on to win MVP was the six year 74-79 stretch:
Ernie DiGregorio
Jamaal Wilkes
Alvan Adams
Adrian Dantley
Walter Davis
Phil Ford 1.0
Bookended by Robert "Bob" McAdoo and Larry "Larry" Bird.

We are currently working on an eight year MVPless stretch:
2010 Tyreke Evans
2011 Blake Griffin
2012 Kyrie Irving
2013 Damian Lillard
2014 Michael Carter-Williams
2015 Andrew Wiggins
2016 Karl-Anthony Towns
2017 Malcolm Brogdon

Granted there's still time for a lot of these players except Andrew Wiggins who is exactly the bust I said he would be, you're welcome, but the only ones who seem like they have even a slim chance are Kyrie and KAT. It's not too late for Kyrie yet. He's only in year 7, which is slightly later than the 5.8 average for MVPs but 12 of the 32 (38%) took at least that long. It's not like he's in year 12 like known fraudulent first time MVPs Karl Malone and Kobe Bryant. Him getting one would break up the streak, and KAT getting one would keep it at no more than tied, so we've got a decent chance.

But still, we should probably stop being so bad at Rookie of the Year voting:
Tyreke over second place Steph Curry
Lillard over second place Anthony Davis
MCW over second place Oladipo

lol just kidding herb, Oladipo has about as much chance as AD at getting MVP down the line.
nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'

but still.

[eric]

Way Too Early Look at the New Cavs

We all talked a lot about the youth and ath-a-leticism (h/t Hubie Brown) of the new Cavs, but the most striking thing on the defensive end is their length. Rodney Hood especially is just huge. Listed at 6'7" or 6'8", bouncy, long arms.

On the topic of Hood he looked the most lost on offense in game one. I'm not gonna play like I watched a lot of Utah games, do you know what I am saying, but I have heard they have a very structured offense, and the Cavs are very much not that. But in non garbage time we saw him moving intelligently around the three point arc, which is harder than it sounds: anyone can stand around in the corner with their hands up, it's harder to make the passing lanes in response to the developing action. He didn't embarrass himself on defense, and he flashed some ball handling chops in said garbage time, so so far so good.

George "Georgie" Hill also looked a lot more like Indiana Georgie than Sacramento "Just Kidding Nobody Watches Kings Games" Georgie. LeBron throughout his career has been infamous for not setting screens, mostly because he is Karl Malone's body with Julius Erving's athleticism and he would be a terminator doing so come on LeBron just do it already, and it was striking how often he set legit screens for George Hill. It's George Hill. Not even Pop saw that coming.

Cedi Osman. All you gotta say about Cedi Osman is he started the game guarding Kyrie Irving and ended the game playing in garbage time. Nick Young ??? graphic. Are they really gonna start some Turkish rookie over one of JR Smith and Rodney Hood all year? Really? Really?? The kid looked good when he wasn't missing dunks and free throws, but how far can you push chemistry?

On that note, and Jeff "Le Vee du Gee" called it during the blowout, everyone's together when you're winning. LeBron gave big hugs to Boobie Gibson and Delonte West when they were winning 66 games, you know? Clarkson looked great with his decision making, not pressing his luck, making the pass when his shot wasn't on but not pulling a Rondo either. Plenty of high fiving and dapping, clapping it up to keep your man's spirits high when he muffed a play. And look, beating a top two team in your conference by twenty is a legit result. But we've all seen how LeBron gives Kevin Love the business in a random midseason game. And nobody else on this roster is at Kevin Love's level. And I'm pretty confident the Cavs aren't finishing the season 27-0.

So when things go bad, is LeBron going to keep up the good energy? If not, are known temperamental (aka whiny) players George Hill and Jordan Clarkson going to stay with the program?

Bottom line, the Cavalier outlook is a lot more interesting and rosy than it used to be. I wouldn't pick them to beat the Warriors, but then I wouldn't pick the Warriors to come out of the West. If this is LeBron's last ride, it definitely just got a lot more cinematic.