Idea - Bought Out Players (302 views)

[20s Navidad]

Okay, so when buyouts were first introduced in 1.0, bought out players became FAs.  However, they obviously couldn't be first come first serve because that wasn't fair to all the GMs.  So Poe initially used a "waiver" system where anyone who was interested put in a claim and he used a random number generator to determine the winning team.  This was better but still unfair so it was scrapped in favor of the current method - bought out players sit out the rest of the season on nobody's team and become available the following free agency.

Here is my idea:

In the NBA, when the amnesty clause is used on a player, teams with cap space are allowed to submit blind bids on how much of the cap they are willing to pay the player for that season.  After 24 hours (or whatever time deadline is used), the team with the highest bid wins the player.  He cannot be traded for the entirety of the season (so tanking teams cannot sign them just to flip them).

I say when a player is bought out, he is made available for 24-48 hours and teams with cap space can submit their bids to Odin on what they are willing to pay the player.  Whoever bids the highest amount is awarded the player for the rest of the season.  They cannot be traded.  The team would not have Bird Rights on the player and he would still be a FA at the end of the season.  I think it would be interesting and better than the bought out dudes just sitting out the year, but I want to hear what everyone else thinks.

Thoughts?

[IanBoyd]

not bad, would probably get rid of 99% of the cases where a title contending team gets an all star caliber player for free.

yes if this excludes teams over the soft cap.

[20s Navidad]

Yeah, I meant you could only bid with your space under the soft cap.

[Souper Troopers]

could i use my mle or lle or minimum on player?

[IanBoyd]

Jul 25, 2014 14:49:03 GMT -6 20s Navidad said:

Yeah, I meant you could only bid with your space under the soft cap.

in that case I vote yes

no if a bunch of playoff teams submit MLE/LLE/Min offers to odin that requires us to bust out a RNG lotto again.

[20s Navidad]

Souper Troopers You can't in the NBA, it's only teams with actual space under the soft cap.  The league could set it up however they want, I'd probably be against MLE/LLE being used for this, but I'm not the decision maker.

[Heynong Man]

Against the MLE/LLE idea but like 20s

[Odin]

waiver based on reversed standings

[20s Navidad]

Jul 25, 2014 15:10:31 GMT -6 Odin said:

waiver based on reversed standings

Trofie brought this up in shout and I agree that this might be a better idea for the league since the money isn't real in this league and doesn't carry the same weight as in real life.

This would also give every team a theoretical shot at the player.

In shout, we were thinking when a player is bought out, everyone is given 24 hours to PM Odin stating that they want to claim the player.  After 24 hours, the team with the worst record that submitted a claim gets the player?  I think that would be a good idea as long as they cannot deal the player.

[IanBoyd]

imo if we're doing reversed standings, should let the player sit until ASB or something.

if a guy is bought out in sim 1 and a contender plays only 3 games in opening sim and goes 1-2 on a bad run or injury, they get rewarded with a good player for free seems unfair imo.

[Trofie]

Jul 25, 2014 15:16:08 GMT -6 IanBoyd said:

imo if we're doing reversed standings, should let the player sit until ASB or something.

if a guy is bought out in sim 1 and a contender plays only 3 games in opening sim and goes 1-2 on a bad run or injury, they get rewarded with a good player for free seems unfair imo.

[Buster 5000]

Jul 25, 2014 14:44:40 GMT -6 20s Navidad said:

Okay, so when buyouts were first introduced in 1.0, bought out players became FAs.  However, they obviously couldn't be first come first serve because that wasn't fair to all the GMs.  So Poe initially used a "waiver" system where anyone who was interested put in a claim and he used a random number generator to determine the winning team.  This was better but still unfair so it was scrapped in favor of the current method - bought out players sit out the rest of the season on nobody's team and become available the following free agency.

Here is my idea:

In the NBA, when the amnesty clause is used on a player, teams with cap space are allowed to submit blind bids on how much of the cap they are willing to pay the player for that season.  After 24 hours (or whatever time deadline is used), the team with the highest bid wins the player.  He cannot be traded for the entirety of the season (so tanking teams cannot sign them just to flip them).

I say when a player is bought out, he is made available for 24-48 hours and teams with cap space can submit their bids to Odin on what they are willing to pay the player.  Whoever bids the highest amount is awarded the player for the rest of the season.  They cannot be traded.  The team would not have Bird Rights on the player and he would still be a FA at the end of the season.  I think it would be interesting and better than the bought out dudes just sitting out the year, but I want to hear what everyone else thinks.

Thoughts?

I like this but instead of using money under the soft cap make it whoever offers the most casino dollars.

[[Account Deleted]]

I say we include MLEs because I'd like to add John Lucas to the squad.

[Odin]

This is how I want it to work:

Waivers based on reverse standings.
To acquire the player a team must forfeit a pick they own in the upcoming draft or one of their futures, which also has to be owned by them.
The player is signed to a one year 4.5 mil deal regardless of cap situation, assuming the team has hard cap space.


After thinking about it for a long while I decided some sort of payment was needed to keep teams from just claiming them for no reason. It's something to make irrelevant draft picks slightly relevant.

[Odin]

Oh, and none of it can happen before Sim 5

[Souper Troopers]

can you extend the player? does it work like a mle? if you cant, i dont see a whole lot of people giving up a first for it.

[Odin]

No clue. Thought of that when I was typing it up. I decided to listen to the people before moving further.

[Souper Troopers]

just spit balling here, but if a team has enough cap to offer a bought out player 4.5 mil, they probably aren't a serious contender. No real use in spending a first on a player if they are expiring and you dont have birds on them.

[Odin]

Jul 27, 2014 0:17:21 GMT -6 Souper Troopers said:

just spit balling here, but if a team has enough cap to offer a bought out player 4.5 mil, they probably aren't a serious contender. No real use in spending a first on a player if they are expiring and you dont have birds on them.

The point of the pick is to keep those teams from putting in a claim.

[Souper Troopers]

most the teams that would give up a pick probably arent going to have cap space. those teams will all be over the soft cap.

[Odin]

Jul 27, 2014 0:21:54 GMT -6 Souper Troopers said:

most the teams that would give up a pick probably arent going to have cap space. those teams will all be over the soft cap.

That's correct.

[Souper Troopers]

I didn't see this:

"The player is signed to a one year 4.5 mil deal regardless of cap situation, assuming the team has hard cap space."


I like the idea.

[Heynong Man]

I like it

[RWisoursavior]

Boom, the commish lays the hammer. I like it.

[[Account Deleted]]

I like it.

[MJ]

I like it and I apologize for derping on Lucas and possibly fucking someone over.