Post by eric on Feb 22, 2018 12:29:49 GMT -6
h/t ANK1990
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 2(!), 12(!!), 3(!!!!)
SG: x, 13, x (Doncic would be #2, Weaver would be #3)
SF: 2, x, 6 (Rory would be #1 of SF and was #1 of SG)
PF: 10, 6, 15
C_: 2, x, 3 (Honest Abe would be #3 by .001 WS)
Lonzo is a FRAUD.
He also doesn't deserve MVP, because the top PG and top WS player is #18 on your scorecards, #1 in your hearts, JeSuis Herb.
Also notable by his absence is fellow Hebrew rookie sensation "Handsome" Pete "Pistol Pete" Peterson, who was the top small forward yet received no All-NBA recognition.
Voters tried to cover up their blatant anti-semitism with a pity nod to Rabbi ben Simmons, but I'm not buying it. Throw in a bizarre All-Rookie 1st to Tony "Even I Don't Know Who I Am" Pierce and we're looking at an all time fiasco.
Speaking of all time fiascos, this rookie class! Here's the top ten win share seasons for rookies:
Herb didn't just put up the best rookie season ever, he put up the best by far, and Pete only narrowly missed making the top three a Maccabiah Games affair. Granted the Royals and Celtics were also unusually good defensive teams to be drafted on, but still. For those wondering, the next three highest rookie WS in this class were JHB 6.1, Eric HOVGmann 5.9, and Alex Lopez 4.8.
In a remarkable turn of events, the rookie class also produced the worst WS in the league with Inur Fason's -6.1. This is only the sixth worst rookie season on record by WS but it's probably fitting that the class that killed 4.0 managed to bookend the entire league in year one.
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point guard
shooting guard
small forward
power forward
center
All-NBA by WS Rank
PG: 2(!), 12(!!), 3(!!!!)
SG: x, 13, x (Doncic would be #2, Weaver would be #3)
SF: 2, x, 6 (Rory would be #1 of SF and was #1 of SG)
PF: 10, 6, 15
C_: 2, x, 3 (Honest Abe would be #3 by .001 WS)
Lonzo is a FRAUD.
He also doesn't deserve MVP, because the top PG and top WS player is #18 on your scorecards, #1 in your hearts, JeSuis Herb.
Also notable by his absence is fellow Hebrew rookie sensation "Handsome" Pete "Pistol Pete" Peterson, who was the top small forward yet received no All-NBA recognition.
Voters tried to cover up their blatant anti-semitism with a pity nod to Rabbi ben Simmons, but I'm not buying it. Throw in a bizarre All-Rookie 1st to Tony "Even I Don't Know Who I Am" Pierce and we're looking at an all time fiasco.
Speaking of all time fiascos, this rookie class! Here's the top ten win share seasons for rookies:
year mp ws name
3055 2678 15.1 JeSuis Herb
3040 2968 12.7 Tyronn Lue
3032 2866 12.3 Jesse Epstein
3055 3152 12.1 Handsome Pete
3013 3012 11.9 Georges Niang
3035 2880 11.5 Gilbert Arenas
3036 3022 11.5 Larry Bird
3015 2889 11.1 Boogie Cousins
3037 2770 10.8 Patrick Ewing
3053 2892 10.5 Rory Lavs
Herb didn't just put up the best rookie season ever, he put up the best by far, and Pete only narrowly missed making the top three a Maccabiah Games affair. Granted the Royals and Celtics were also unusually good defensive teams to be drafted on, but still. For those wondering, the next three highest rookie WS in this class were JHB 6.1, Eric HOVGmann 5.9, and Alex Lopez 4.8.
In a remarkable turn of events, the rookie class also produced the worst WS in the league with Inur Fason's -6.1. This is only the sixth worst rookie season on record by WS but it's probably fitting that the class that killed 4.0 managed to bookend the entire league in year one.
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point guard
15.1 JeSuis Herb
14.8 Lonzo Ball
14.1 Collin Sexton
14.0 Jason D. Williams
13.5 Tommie Frazier
13.1 Tyronn Lue
12.5 Bryant Crawford
12.2 George Washington
12.1 Malik Monk
11.9 Luke Ridnour
11.1 Kris Dunn
11.0 Markelle Fultz
10.4 Dean Oliver
9.8 Dan Cortese
9.7 Rex Chapman
9.5 Drake Wilton
8.6 Dajuan Wagner
8.3 Jalen Brunson
7.5 Glynn Watson
5.9 Eric Hofmann
5.8 Archie Miller
5.6 Bill Clinton
4.9 Martin Van Buren
4.6 Salina Meyers
4.5 [Just] Wallace
4.4 Frank Ntilikina
3.9 Trevon Duval
3.8 Nick Chubb
3.8 Avon Barksdale
3.6 Chase Kepler
3.2 Morlon Wiley
3.0 Josh Hart
2.9 TJ Ford
2.9 Rafer Alston
2.4 Deshaun Watson
2.3 Antonio Daniels
2.3 Flea Balzary
2.1 Mason Rudolph
2.1 Thomas Roosma
2.0 Edwin Daniels
2.0 Jacque Vaughn
2.0 Everette Stephens
1.9 Jason McElwain
1.5 Brian Shaw
1.4 Franklin D. Roosevelt
1.1 Phil Ford 2.0
1.0 Chris Paul
1.0 Speedy Noil
0.9 Mo Williams
0.3 Andrew Jackson
0.3 Vernon Maxwell
0.2 Dennis Smith Jr
0.1 Budda Baker
0.1 Jamel Irief
0.1 Sim Devine
0.1 Delap Throws
0.0 Tectonic Fever
0.0 Mario Harpring
0.0 Ward Dunn
0.0 Steve Young
0.0 Chester A. Arthur
-0.1 James Madison
-0.6 Thomas McCutchan
-2.7 Jeremiah English
-3.8 Calvin Sachs
-5.0 Cameron Ruffin
-5.3 Kenny Scolari
-5.9 Damon Webb
-6.1 Inur Fason
shooting guard
13.5 Rory Lavs
10.6 Omar Little
10.6 Randy Moss
9.8 Rod Grizzard
9.4 Snoop Pearson
9.2 Chris Morris
8.3 Dillon Brooks
8.2 Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
8.1 Thomas Jefferson
8.1 Chauncey Billups
7.7 Majestic Mapp
7.1 Bill Bellamy
7.0 John Adams
6.6 De'Aaron Fox
6.4 Hamidou Diallo
6.3 Leonard Fournette
5.9 Coop Cooper
5.6 Dan Majerle
5.3 Barack Obama
5.3 John Stockston
5.1 Ronald Reagan
5.0 Brandin Knight
4.9 Gerald Willis III
4.5 Vince Carter
4.4 Adoree Jackson
4.3 Josh Dutt
4.3 Jon-Michael Majkut
3.8 Ed Gray
3.7 PJ Dozier
3.6 Travis Spivey
3.5 Barry Sanders
3.4 Jim Thorpe
3.4 Antonio Reed
3.3 Gary Grice
3.0 Mitch Richmond
2.9 Jason Hunter
2.6 2ude Poorfect
2.5 Britton Johnson
2.4 Christian McCaffery
2.3 Marlo Stanfield
1.6 [Just] Yawn
1.5 Doug Remer
1.4 Em Jay
1.3 Hulk Hogan Hedge-Hell
1.2 Ankly O'Saurus
1.1 Randall Cunningham
0.9 JuJu Smith-Schuster
0.9 Richard Nixon
0.9 Sam Chamberlain
0.8 Dalvin Cook
0.8 Dwight D. Eisenhower
0.8 Byron Mouton
0.8 Grover Cleveland
0.6 Caron Butler
0.6 Tayshaun Prince
0.6 Jack Oller
0.6 Kn 88
0.5 Sony Michel
0.5 Quin Blanding
0.3 Tobias Funke
0.2 Rutherford B. Hayes
0.2 Bradley Beal
0.1 David Shelton
0.1 God Shammgod
0.0 Steve Kerr
0.0 Tyler Dorsey
-0.1 Royce Freeman
-0.1 Ed Gottlieb
-0.1 Reggie Jessie
-0.1 Scotty Hopson
-1.3 Daniel Mullin
small forward
12.1 Handsome Pete
11.3 LeBron James
11.3 Tracy McGrady
11.0 Luka Doncic
10.6 Estaban Weaver
10.3 Ben Simmons
9.5 Bradley Bleal
8.7 Rashard Lewis
8.2 Nikoloz Tskitishvili
8.0 OG Anunoby
7.6 Tim Thomas
7.4 Marvin Williams
7.3 Josh Jackson
6.9 Raekwon McMillon
6.5 Grant Long
6.5 Willie Anderson
5.7 John F. Kennedy
5.4 Queen Latifah
4.7 Sergio McClain
4.4 Sean Stoner
4.3 Sean Lavs
4.3 Brandon Ingram
4.3 Anthony Mason
3.9 Jimmy Graham
3.9 Kyle Korver
3.8 Markis McDuffie
3.8 Jiri Welsch
3.8 Dwyane Wade
3.6 Zach Collins
3.5 Anthony Perry
3.4 Tony Gonzalez
3.3 Ndubi Ebi
3.1 Shu Shuvington
3.0 Antwaan Randle-El
2.9 Lonnie Walker
2.9 Jayson Tatum
2.5 Millard Fillmore
2.5 Rashaan Evans
2.3 Clifton Garrett
2.3 Michael Porter
2.1 Jaylen Brown
2.1 Lavell Blanchard
2.0 Stephen Jackson
1.8 Bo Scarbrough
1.5 Antawn Jamison
1.5 Shaun Richards
1.4 George W. Bush
1.3 Miles Bridges
1.2 Harry Truman
1.2 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
1.2 Deng Adel
1.1 Jerome Lane
0.9 B K
0.9 Geoff Thao
0.7 Tyler Windham
0.7 Allen Lazard
0.7 Tres Tinkle
0.5 Martell Webster
0.5 Maverick Rowan
0.5 Paul Pierce
0.4 Jabril Peppers
0.4 James K Polk
0.4 Jonathan Isaac
0.4 Harrison Barnes
0.3 Eric Camp
0.3 Danny Granger
0.2 Pete Stith
0.2 Antonio Gates
0.1 Bonzie Colson
0.1 Casey Calvary
0.0 Ian Boyd 2.0
0.0 Cameron Stojakovic
-0.2 Malachi Dupre
-0.8 Skyler Fox
power forward
9.8 Amar'e Stoudemire
9.3 Abraham Lincoln
8.9 Salado Valarado III
8.5 Jaren Jackson Jr.
7.5 Clifford Smith
7.5 Orlando Graham
7.5 Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
6.7 Chris Bosh
6.6 Rik Smits
6.5 Rob Gronkowski
6.4 Mikki Moore
6.4 Ryan Humphrey
6.2 Dirk Nowitzki
6.1 James H. Beard
5.9 Theodore Roosevelt
5.9 Ben Bentil
5.7 Mo Bamba
5.5 Dean Cain
5.3 Justin Patton
4.6 Carmelo Anthony
4.5 Robert Hack
4.3 Tony Pierce
4.1 Zarko Cabarkapa
4.1 AJ Hammons
4.0 Jared Berggren
3.7 Mark Vershaw
3.7 Gerald Ford
3.5 Rodney Landrum
3.3 Andrew Brown
3.2 Sam Stankovic
3.2 Buster 5000
3.2 Myles Garrett
3.0 Ethan Harris
3.0 Dennis Coles
2.9 Jerry Lucas
2.7 Cheick Diallo
2.6 Troy Hartt
2.6 Ray Spaulding
2.5 Da'Shawn Hand
1.9 Willis Reed
1.9 Marquese Chriss
1.8 Rico Gathers
1.8 Colton Iverson
1.4 Heel Tiger
1.4 Mike Watkins
1.3 Chandler Chandler
1.1 KC McDermott
1.1 Donatas Zavackas
1.1 Nikola Jokic
1.1 Chris Owens
1.0 Sean Kersey
0.8 Wayne Hightower
0.8 Keith Van Horn
0.8 Solomon Thomas
0.8 Melvin Ely
0.7 David West
0.7 Danny Manning
0.6 Moritz Wagner
0.6 Kendrick Perkins
0.6 Lorenzo Carter
0.5 Adrian McCoy
0.5 Blake Henson
0.3 Andy Kowske
0.3 Matt Carroll 2.0
0.3 William McKinley
0.3 Carlton Bragg
0.3 Udonis Haslem
0.2 Brock Curley
0.2 Tre' Williams
0.1 Chad Thomas
0.1 Absimov Donovan
0.1 Dedric Lawson
0.0 Michael Dunigan
0.0 Max Bing
0.0 Tyrus Boswell
0.0 Spencer Bird
-0.5 Damon Gaines
center
10.1 Tim Duncan
9.4 Damien Mama
9.3 Eric Chenowith
8.0 Yao Ming
7.9 Cam Robinson
7.7 Tai Wynyard
7.2 Tacko Fall
7.1 Elton Tyler
6.8 Jarrett Allen
6.8 Darko Milicic
6.8 Tahj Holden
6.6 Thon Maker
6.1 Karim Shabazz
5.8 Georgios Papagiannis
5.6 Slim Charles
5.4 Corey Woods
5.3 Ed Jones
5.0 Caleb Swanigan
5.0 Jonathan Ogden
4.8 Nenad Krstic
4.8 Alex Lopez
4.7 Chris Kaman
4.0 Tim Pig
3.9 Randy Taylor
3.8 Scot Pollard
3.8 Russell Jones
3.3 Quenton Nelson
3.1 Daniel Leonard 2.0
2.8 Zaza Pachulia
2.8 Drew Eubanks
2.8 William Henry Harrison
2.7 Deandre Ayton
2.6 Stinky Pinky
2.5 William Howard Taft
2.4 Lamont Hawkins
2.4 Kris Mikkelsen
2.2 Slava Medvedenko
2.0 Will Perdue
1.8 Andrew Bynum
1.7 Skoal Labissiere
1.7 Wendell Carter
1.3 Angel Garcia
1.3 Chimezie Metu
1.0 Nigel Dixon
0.8 Harry G
0.7 James Monroe
0.3 Reggie Evans
0.3 Malik McDowell
0.2 Donald Trump
0.2 Damian Prince
0.2 Jamal Mobley
0.2 Benjamin Harrison
0.2 Eloy Vargas
0.2 Terrence Jones
0.1 Mark Andrews
0.1 Zachary Taylor
0.0 Adonal Foyle
0.0 Jakob Poeltl
0.0 Tito Horford
0.0 Jimmy Carter
-0.1 Kelvin Cato
-0.4 Diamond Stone
-0.6 Edgar Newble