|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 6:31:28 GMT -6
We have talked about it in shout, lets see what everyone thinks.
Current Rule: Any new free agent signed for less than 8 mil can be traded immediately. Free agents signing with new teams that make more than 8 million have to wait 60 days before they can be traded. This excludes any free agent resigning with previous team.
Proposed changed: I (and many others) would like to see the amount of the newly signed free agents that can immediately be traded dropped to anything above an MLE. That would be anything over 4.5 million. I would like to take it a step further for bigger contracts. Any deal 12.5 and more cannot be traded until the following season. Of course all of this still excludes any free agent resigning with previous team.
Thoughts? Tweaks?
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
Joined: January 1970
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 7:05:45 GMT -6
i'm okay with it.
|
|
|
|
Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 17, 2014 7:11:33 GMT -6
I like this rule change.
|
|
|
|
Post by dilworth on Sept 17, 2014 8:47:00 GMT -6
I don't understand this. There are tons of trades every year that include guys making over the MLE that were just signed by that team. Most of those trades involve two teams that are trying to compete. Why would we want to restrict that? It seems like it would cause teams to be stagnant and GMs to be disinterested. Most GM's who sign players to contracts are not doing it to trade them but opportunities come up throughout the season that are beneficial for both teams. It makes no sense to me to make those opportunities unavailable.
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 8:52:19 GMT -6
I don't understand this. There are tons of trades every year that include guys making over the MLE that were just signed by that team. Most of those trades involve two teams that are trying to compete. Why would we want to restrict that? It seems like it would cause teams to be stagnant and GMs to be disinterested. Most GM's who sign players to contracts are not doing it to trade them but opportunities come up throughout the season that are beneficial for both teams. It makes no sense to me to make those opportunities unavailable. guys signed between 4.5 mil and 12.5 mil will still be tradeable, just have to wait 60 days. not sure if that addressed your concern. |
|
|
|
Post by dilworth on Sept 17, 2014 8:56:30 GMT -6
I don't understand this. There are tons of trades every year that include guys making over the MLE that were just signed by that team. Most of those trades involve two teams that are trying to compete. Why would we want to restrict that? It seems like it would cause teams to be stagnant and GMs to be disinterested. Most GM's who sign players to contracts are not doing it to trade them but opportunities come up throughout the season that are beneficial for both teams. It makes no sense to me to make those opportunities unavailable. guys signed between 4.5 mil and 12.5 mil will still be tradeable, just have to wait 60 days. not sure if that addressed your concern. Yeah I'm still not a fan of that. Definitely not a fan of the full season for 12.5+ rule. Am I the only one who doesn't like this? |
|
|
|
Post by [Account Deleted] on Sept 17, 2014 9:01:29 GMT -6
guys signed between 4.5 mil and 12.5 mil will still be tradeable, just have to wait 60 days. not sure if that addressed your concern. Yeah I'm still not a fan of that. Definitely not a fan of the full season for 12.5+ rule. Am I the only one who doesn't like this? Apparently |
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 9:05:00 GMT -6
guys signed between 4.5 mil and 12.5 mil will still be tradeable, just have to wait 60 days. not sure if that addressed your concern. Yeah I'm still not a fan of that. Definitely not a fan of the full season for 12.5+ rule. Am I the only one who doesn't like this? i dont see why a team would sign a guy for over 12.5+ mil then want to trade him unless it was to gain assets. if you sign a new guy for that much money you should at least have to honor a year of that contract offer. |
|
|
|
Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 17, 2014 9:08:00 GMT -6
I'd be okay with only 60 days for all of the contracts over 4.5, but I am also okay with a full season for 12.5.
I don't care on the 12.5, but I do think anyone over an MLE should be on your team for 60 days. It is to prevent teams from signing players just to move them immediately for assets. That is what the current rule is trying to prevent IMO, it just leaves a gap/loophole for guys between MLE and 8 mil. So why not lower it? Because right now, I can (and have) gone and signed guys for $7,999,999 just to flip them to contenders over the soft cap for a 1st. I mean, within the current rules, it is smart, but I think we have the chance to eliminate that and make people bidding on free agents teams who actually want the player.
In the NBA, any player who is signed from another team cannot be traded for 60 days, regardless of salary.
|
|
|
|
Post by Druce on Sept 17, 2014 9:24:41 GMT -6
I feel like dil is against any and every change proposed.
|
|
|
|
Post by dilworth on Sept 17, 2014 9:28:27 GMT -6
that's probably true.
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 9:30:17 GMT -6
There are tons of trades every year that include guys making over the MLE that were just signed by that team. Most of those trades involve two teams that are trying to compete. i would disagree with this. |
|
|
|
Post by Odin on Sept 17, 2014 9:54:54 GMT -6
What's the goal here? Has there been that much trading of high quality players who sign for less than 8?
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 9:57:22 GMT -6
What's the goal here? Has there been that much trading of high quality players who sign for less than 8? signing players by "tanking" teams with cap just to flip them for assets. yes it happens quite a bit. also it keeps you committed to a contract for a year on max type guys instead of being able to move them 60 days in for assets. |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 9:57:36 GMT -6
Stupid. Let's just cry about everything these days
|
|
|
|
Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 17, 2014 9:57:47 GMT -6
What's the goal here? Has there been that much trading of high quality players who sign for less than 8? I traded a couple of them for the 15th pick and a future 1st. It isn't super common, but what is the purpose of having it set at 8 million? I guess I don't understand the limiting factor there. If we are going to limit it, why not just close the gap between MLE and 8 mil? |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 9:58:27 GMT -6
Preventing trades from happening is retarded
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 9:58:47 GMT -6
Stupid. Let's just cry about everything these days for a guy that doesn't send in FA bids unless reminded, you sure do have a riveting opinion on the matter. |
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 9:59:10 GMT -6
Preventing trades from happening is retarded this isn't what it's doing retard |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 10:00:44 GMT -6
Preventing trades from happening is retarded this isn't what it's doing retard Yeah it is idiot. Having to wait a full season for a trade over 12.5 million? So fucking dumb find something else to cry about because this is stupid |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 10:01:13 GMT -6
Drrrrr my iq is lower than my age
-soup
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 10:01:40 GMT -6
this isn't what it's doing retard Yeah it is idiot. Having to wait a full season for a trade over 12.5 million? So fucking dumb find something else to cry about because this is stupid why would you want to sign a guy to 12.5 million and trade him? now that is stupid. |
|
Mad King
Former GM 
Mel my queen
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 640
Dump Bucks: 1,000
Joined: April 2014
|
Post by Mad King on Sept 17, 2014 10:01:50 GMT -6
If we're going this far you might as well say all players because who really signs guys below 4.5?
|
|
|
|
Post by Lazy Pete on Sept 17, 2014 10:02:09 GMT -6
If you're trading a FA you just signed at 12.5 or more at 60 days, it's probably because you made a horrible offer
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 10:02:45 GMT -6
If we're going this far you might as well say all players because who really signs guys below 4.5? 1. i do all the time 2. that would mean no trading mle's and lle's or any minimums |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 10:03:27 GMT -6
Yeah it is idiot. Having to wait a full season for a trade over 12.5 million? So fucking dumb find something else to cry about because this is stupid why would you want to sign a guy to 12.5 million and trade him? now that is stupid. Because maybe a team wants him for the rest of the year/playoffs and your team sucks idk soup think a little bit for once |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 10:03:52 GMT -6
I say we just ban trading altogether
|
|
|
|
Post by Souper Troopers on Sept 17, 2014 10:04:13 GMT -6
why would you want to sign a guy to 12.5 million and trade him? now that is stupid. Because maybe a team wants him for the rest of the year/playoffs and your team sucks idk soup think a little bit for once lol elite gm'ing right here |
|
|
|
Post by 20s Navidad on Sept 17, 2014 10:05:38 GMT -6
I say we just ban trading altogether This is an awful idea. |
|
|
|
Post by devinetime on Sept 17, 2014 10:06:03 GMT -6
Like u would know ha that's laughable
|
|
![[Account Deleted] Avatar](http://storage.proboards.com/5589790/avatar/ZhaFVHTxVPwmyuOiOKEd.png)
