3019 Rookie TCs (749 views)

[Odin]

I DID NOT LOOK AT PRESEASON STATS

Round 1

1. Cavaliers - Kevin Garnett +3
B+ C- C B B A
A- C- C B+ B+ A
After a miraculous lotto win, GM ht selected the obvious #1 pick. At the time. There's a few I like more now. Is +3 good? With those grades? Regardless, his preseason looked like shit and I cheer for all of the Cavs failures this season. Sorry heel, but I know the feeling is mutual.

2. Kings (from Jazz) - Joe Smith +4
B+ C- C- B B A
A- C- C A- B A
A 2.0 god. Although he was before my time I've heard countless stories...from Ian. A few times per week. An overall promising TC despite no change at rebounding. Maybe that means max d rebs and low o rebs, but I don't think Soup makes players like that

3. Hawks - Jerry Stackhouse +1
B B- C C+ C A
B B- C B- C A
lol

4. Bulls - Rasheed Wallace +4(-1)
B C D+ B B- A
B+ C D A B B
One of my favorite players of all time and the guy I would have taken 1.2. He improved in all key areas but dropped in potential. Was hoping to see a +1 outside but he's not even my player so what do I care. That's not particularly concerning but it is worth noting. I hope for domination from him.

5. Grizzlies - Bryant Reeves -1
A- C- D+ B- B B
A- C- D+ B- B- B
The guy I would have incorrectly taken at 1.1. Someone has to bust and it looks like he's one of them. As always, he's just a rookie so there's hope.

6. Lakers - Damon Stoudamire +3(+1)
C+ B B C+ D+ B
C+ B+ B+ B- D+ A
Great TC and could be the next dominant PG in tmbsl (not really, Ty Lawson). Let me know if you want to move him Buster. Salim was better.

7. Celtics - Antonio McDyess +1(-1)
C+ D+ C- B+ B+ A
C+ D+ D+ A- A- B
Defense only big with a good TC. Let's move on. RTR

8. Spurs - Michael Finley +2
B- C+ C+ C+ C B
B- C+ C+ B C B
Good looking guard to play backup to Savage. Fuck, why is Savage actually good. Fuck you Fason.

9. Knicks - Brent Barry -2(+1)
B B- C B- C- C
B- C+ C- B C- B
That's what you get you useless fuck.

10. Celtics (from Nuggets) - Kurt Thomas +3(+1)
B+ C- C- B- B C
B+ C- C B B+ B
Another big with another good TC. Soup seems to have noticed all of the formerly dominant ones are now old as shit. Good on you commish, just don't go overboard. It can happen very quickly and without you noticing it.

11. Supersonics - Bob Sura +1(+1)
B- C+ C+ C+ C- B
C+ B C+ C+ C A
I really like Sura going in to the draft but didn't even make an attempt to trade for him. It was time I sat out a draft. Luckily for ved Sura had one of those weird guard TCs that don't make sense and an increase in potential. This is a we'll see scenario all the way.

12. Lakers (from Bucks) - Greg Ostertag no change
C D+ D B+ B+ C
C D+ D+ B+ B C
First of three consecutive picks by Buster did not go well. Average big. Perhaps the next will be better.

13. Lakers (from Bobcats) - Gary Trent +3
B+ C- D+ C+ B B
B+ C C- C+ B+ B
Originally my pick, but I prefer to trade them and live on the fringe. It's exciting, consider it. Blow that shit up. But about Trent, he looks pretty good other than that C+ defense. Everyone can't be great at everything I suppose.

14. Lakers (from Warriors) - Corliss Williamson +1
B+ C- C- C+ B- B
A- C- D+ C+ B B
Would have beasted. Truck Robinson type dude. Soup had other ideas. Sorry Buster.

15. Bulls (from Rockets via Lakers) - Theo Ratliff +3
C- D+ D+ B+ B B
C C- D+ B+ A- B
Another defense only big with a good TC. Moving on.

16. Raptors (from Trailblazers) - Shaun Stowner +1
B- C+ D+ B- C B
B- C+ C- B- C B
Kind of just seems like a draft pick.

17. Grizzlies (from Magic via Supersonics) - Ed O'Bannon +2(+1)
B C C- B+ C B
B- C C- A- C+ A
Fuck. This. Dude. Solid TC tho.

18. Rockets (from Timberwolves) - Brady Alston +3
C B+ B- C+ C- A
C A- B- B C- A
Big gains in key areas. I like the look.

19. Heat - Cherokee Parks -1
C+ C D+ B+ B- B
C C D+ B+ B- B
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

20. Lakers (from Raptors) - Travis Best +3(+1)
B- B- B- C+ D+ C
B- B B- B D+ B
Another Lakers pick, this one seems to be pretty good. Gains in key areas and an increase in potential. You can't hope for more at this point in the draft.

21. Supersonics (from Pacers via Grizzlies) - Ernest Childs -1
C A- C C C- A
C A- C C D+ A
Classic ved "probably should have forfeited that shit) pick.

22. Supersonics (from 76ers) - Jon Dowd +1
C C C C+ C A
C C C C+ C+ A
Ol Barry Bonds

23. Trailblazers (from Nets) - Andrew DeClercq +1
B- C- C- B- B- B
B- C- C- B- B B
We're really getting into some painful looking stuff now.

24. Celtics (from Hornets) - Eric Snow -1(-1)
C+ C B+ B D+ B
C+ C B B+ D C
I mean, really painful.

25. Supersonics (from Clippers) - Tyus Edney +1
C+ C+ A- C+ D+ B
C+ B- B+ B- D+ B
+2, -1. Weird TCs all over the place.

26. Hawks (from Bullets) - Alan Henderson +1
B+ C- D+ C+ B C
B C- D+ B- B+ C
Nothing to see here.

27. Hawks (from Kings) - Shawn Respert +3
B- B C- C+ C- C
B B C B- C- C
Some big gains for C potential.

28. Hawks Trailblazers (from Suns) - Fred Hoiberg +3(+1)
C+ B C C+ C C
C+ A- C B- C B
Why not Hoiberg?

29. Thunder - Nicklaus Templeton +3(-1)
C+ B+ C B- C- A
C A- C+ B C- B
Very good from the 29th spot. Adds some quality depth to a team with little.

Round 2

1. Hawks - Nicholas DeWolf no change(+1)
B- D+ C- B+ C+ C
C+ D+ C B+ B- B

2. Lakers (from Bulls) - Damian Mihm +3
B- C+ C C C A
B- B C- B- C A
Chris's younger brother?

3. Grizzlies - Jackmerius Tacktheritrix no change
C- C- C+ B- C+ B
C- C- C+ B- C+ B

4. Jazz - Jimmy King -2
B- C C- C+ C- B
C+ C C- C C- B

5. Celtics - Randolph Childress +4
C B- C+ B- D+ B
C+ B B- B D+ B
Just wanting to remind everyone that dump cut this guy then signed him in FA. Maybe he should have gone with more than 3 years.

6. Bulls (from Lakers) - Jason Caffey +1
C D+ D+ B B B
C D+ C- B+ B- B

7. Grizzlies (from Spurs) - Mario Bennett -1(+1)
C+ C B- B- C+ C
C+ C B- C+ C+ B

8. Knicks - Constantin Popa no change(+1)
B- D+ C- B- C+ C
C+ D+ C- B C+ B

9. Cavaliers - Eric Williams +2
B- C C B C A
B- C+ C B C+ A

10. Trailblazers (from Nuggets) - Brent Oakley no change(+1)
C B A- B- D+ D
C B A- B D C

11. Nuggets (from Supersonics) - Marc Najera +6
C C- C- B- C+ A
C C- C A- B A
There's always one, but jesus fuck +6 is stupid in the 2nd.

12. Supersonics (from Bucks via Grizzlies) - Pete Holzman +4(+2)
C+ C C B- C+ D
C+ C+ C A- C+ B
Better than most of his first rounders.

13. Warriors - Sherell Ford +4(-1)
C+ C C C+ C A
B- C+ C- B C+ B
A nice run of good players continues.

14. Bucks (from Rockets) - Chris Carr -1
B C+ C C C- B
B C+ C- C C- B

15. Bobcats - Gene Parmesan +3
C C+ B B- D B
C B- B+ B- D+ B
Gene Parmesan, how you doing?

16. Magic - Broderick Charles no change
C+ C C- C+ C B
C+ C C- C+ C B

17. Trailblazers - Donny Marshall no change
B C C- B- C C
B C D+ B C C

18. Heat - Cory Alexander +3(+1)
C+ B- C+ B- C- C
C+ B C+ B+ C- B
Lot of good TCs in the 2nd.

19. Timberwolves - Eqqsquiztine Buble-Schwinslow no change
C+ C C B- C B
C+ C C B- C B

20. Raptors - Loren Meyer +3(+1)
B+ C- C- C B C
B+ C- C- C+ B+ B
not bad

21. Pacers - George Zidek no change(-1)
C+ C- C- C+ C+ A
C C- D+ B C+ B

22. Hawks (from 76ers) - Troy Stith -1
C+ C+ C- C+ C- B
C+ C+ C- C+ D+ B

23. Nets - Nicolas Hagan +1
C B- B+ C D- B
C B B+ C+ F+ B

24. Hornets - Lawrence Moten +2
C B- C C+ D+ B
C B C B- D+ B

25. Thunder - Steve Holt no change(+1)
C+ C C C+ C B
C+ C+ C- C+ C A

26. Clippers - David Vaughn +1
C+ D+ D+ B- A- C
C+ D+ C- B- A- C

27. Bullets - Brennan Dubroff +1(+1)
C+ C C C C C
C C C+ C+ C B

28. Kings - Grunky Peep no change(-1)
C D+ D B C+ B
C D+ D- B+ C+ C

29. Suns - Jeremiah Gugliotta -1(+2)
C C C- B B- F
C C C- B- B- C
He's certainly no Jon Pierce.


Stats

Total gain from Round 1: 45
Total potential changes from Round 1: +4
Total gain from Round 2: 32
Total potential changes from Round 2: +10

[Trofie]

Stack ha

[Deleted]

[Souper Troopers]

Great job.


Weird to see a former commish so opinionated one way or another after just one TC. Hopefully it's just for dramatic effect.

[2poor]

wow i drafted literally the worst player of the second round

[Druce]

soup i'm nervous about reeves.

[Citizen Cane]

Jun 22, 2015 9:01:57 GMT -6 Druce said:

soup i'm nervous about reeves.

Parks for reeves imo

[Bankz]

So the man who created Nick Diaz 2.0 as a fucking 2nd rounder and his twin brother who is also a top player in the league has the fucking nerve to bitch about a 2nd round player exploding?

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2015 10:39:12 GMT -6 Bankz said:

So the man who created Nick Diaz 2.0 as a fucking 2nd rounder and his twin brother who is also a top player in the league has the fucking nerve to bitch about a 2nd round player exploding?

Well tbqh the Harrisons shouldnt have been 2nd rounders

That was based on their past sim league performance and their real life shittiness

[dilworth]

Here we go

[Bankz]

Jun 22, 2015 10:42:46 GMT -6 @dumptime said:

Jun 22, 2015 10:39:12 GMT -6 Bankz said:

So the man who created Nick Diaz 2.0 as a fucking 2nd rounder and his twin brother who is also a top player in the league has the fucking nerve to bitch about a 2nd round player exploding?

Well tbqh the Harrisons shouldnt have been 2nd rounders

That was based on their past sim league performance and their real life shittiness

There grades were not 1st round material... everyone fucking hated them IRL and they should of gone 2nd round just like they will irl. 

They aren't the only 2nd rounders who turned into elite players...  Odin did it to a bunch of guys.  Stanley is another great example. 

So please stop sucking the dick of Odin.  It cost you JO and now you look foolish. 

[Face-in]

Team Bankz on this one

Andrew Harrison PG 6'5'' 207 20 C C+ C+ C+ C- B
Aaron Harrison SG 6'5'' 210 20 C C+ C+ C+ C- B

[2poor]

nothing about those grades say "we should go in the first round"

[Bankz]

Jun 22, 2015 10:48:38 GMT -6 Face-in said:

Team Bankz on this one

Andrew Harrison PG 6'5'' 207 20 C C+ C+ C+ C- B
Aaron Harrison SG 6'5'' 210 20 C C+ C+ C+ C- B

Those are the grades of 1st round picks all day every day... borderline lotto worthy right @dumptime ? 

[Face-in]

Jun 22, 2015 10:46:54 GMT -6 Bankz said:

Jun 22, 2015 10:42:46 GMT -6 @dumptime said:

Well tbqh the Harrisons shouldnt have been 2nd rounders

That was based on their past sim league performance and their real life shittiness

There grades were not 1st round material... everyone fucking hated them IRL and they should of gone 2nd round just like they will irl. 

They aren't the only 2nd rounders who turned into elite players...  Odin did it to a bunch of guys.  Stanley is another great example. 

So please stop sucking the dick of Odin.  It cost you JO and now you look foolish. 

Also Mustafa Shakur PG 23 6'3 190 C+ C+ B- C+ D+ C

[2poor]

Jun 22, 2015 10:55:31 GMT -6 Face-in said:

Jun 22, 2015 10:46:54 GMT -6 Bankz said:

There grades were not 1st round material... everyone fucking hated them IRL and they should of gone 2nd round just like they will irl. 

They aren't the only 2nd rounders who turned into elite players...  Odin did it to a bunch of guys.  Stanley is another great example. 

So please stop sucking the dick of Odin.  It cost you JO and now you look foolish. 

Also Mustafa Shakur

[Souper Troopers]

I DID NOT LOOK AT PRESEASON STATS

Round 1

1. Cavaliers - Kevin Garnett +3
B+ C- C B B A
A- C- C B+ B+ A
After a miraculous lotto win, GM ht selected the obvious #1 pick. At the time. There's a few I like more now. Is +3 good? With those grades? Regardless, his preseason looked like shit and I cheer for all of the Cavs failures this season. Sorry heel, but I know the feeling is mutual.




Welp, see ya later

[Citizen Cane]

Yea. Odin went out of his way to create a bunch of super sleepers

[dilworth]

Fire him

[Face-in]

Also even before Shakur, the Harrisons and Pierce came into the league Odin simmed a series where a team of all second rounders beat a team of all number one picks.

lolwrongtmbsl.proboards.com/thread/3456/1-picks-2nd-rounders

[KwYawnza]

I'm a terrible GM

[Odin]

Jun 22, 2015 11:00:01 GMT -6 Souper Troopers said:

I DID NOT LOOK AT PRESEASON STATS

Round 1

1. Cavaliers - Kevin Garnett +3
B+ C- C B B A
A- C- C B+ B+ A
After a miraculous lotto win, GM ht selected the obvious #1 pick. At the time. There's a few I like more now. Is +3 good? With those grades? Regardless, his preseason looked like shit and I cheer for all of the Cavs failures this season. Sorry heel, but I know the feeling is mutual.




Welp, see ya later

Obviously I looked at his since I have the Cavs pick.


Not directed at Soup:

Also, at no point do i "bitch" about what a 2nd rounder did. I simply pointed out it was a big TC. If you read anything more into that then you're probably bankz.

[RWisoursavior]

Jun 22, 2015 14:16:57 GMT -6 KwYawnza said:

I'm a terrible GM

Shitty gm's club:

Yawn
Bankz
RW
HT
Jerry West

[Bankz]

Jun 22, 2015 22:07:19 GMT -6 RWisoursavior said:

Jun 22, 2015 14:16:57 GMT -6 KwYawnza said:

I'm a terrible GM

Shitty gm's club:

Yawn
Bankz
RW
HT
Jerry West

I'm honored to be a part of any club that includes Jerry West and Yawn 

[Deleted]

Jun 22, 2015 22:07:19 GMT -6 RWisoursavior said:

Jun 22, 2015 14:16:57 GMT -6 KwYawnza said:

I'm a terrible GM

Shitty gm's club:

Yawn
Bankz
RW
HT
Jerry West

I'm not even good enough to be in the shitty GMs Club

[Bankz]

Dump you can join our group anytime

[Lazy Pete]

Software nailed my 2nd round pick