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Post by eric on Aug 20, 2015 9:22:33 GMT -6
I wanted to establish a baseline value for draft picks. There are many ways to do this with different strengths and weaknesses to each approach. First I added up the Win Shares and Minutes Played of every player drafted from the 3010 through 3015 drafts. Here's what I got:
pick mp ws ws/48 1 130434 311.5 0.115 2 123990 409.9 0.159 3 120729 362.2 0.144 4 82693 142.7 0.083 5 84956 176.5 0.100 6 71952 210.8 0.141 7 66027 113.7 0.083 8 93620 206.5 0.106 9 78143 169.8 0.104 10 87238 246.5 0.136 11 51254 161.3 0.151 12 55266 92.0 0.080 13 72357 100.7 0.067 14 50432 79.9 0.076 15 48838 89.9 0.088 16 59910 110.8 0.089 17 52727 115.5 0.105 18 40842 44.3 0.052 19 36926 64.2 0.083 20 43098 109.8 0.122 21 36626 58.3 0.076 22 31842 50.1 0.076 23 32811 55.3 0.081 24 30552 61.3 0.096 25 30268 8.9 0.014 26 41854 66.6 0.076 27 25048 1.8 0.004 28 32087 41.5 0.062 29 22664 6.3 0.013 30 33955 38.4 0.054 31 19156 0.7 0.002 32 21072 5.7 0.013 33 28490 37.1 0.062 34 14776 8.1 0.026 35 26530 55.1 0.100 36 10622 4.8 0.022 37 17602 28.8 0.079 38 27492 48.3 0.084 39 4232 -3.0 -0.034 40 10221 -8.5 -0.040 41 6795 -2.0 -0.014 42 11202 10.7 0.046 43 5621 4.6 0.039 44 4826 5.4 0.053 45 13867 11.1 0.038 46 38022 63.9 0.081 47 8121 -10.2 -0.060 48 187 0.0 0.002 49 7704 6.1 0.038 50 24825 95.3 0.184 51 290 0.4 0.062 52 2497 -1.0 -0.019 53 581 0.8 0.064 54 16352 29.2 0.086 55 2236 -0.1 -0.002 56 27046 102.0 0.181 57 11171 4.2 0.018 58 25408 69.6 0.131 In general, the lolwrongtmbsl GMs are good at draft talent evaluation. The best players are picked around the top, then medium grade players, then bad players... then at the end things go haywire.
range mp ws ws/48 1-11 991036 2511.4 0.122 12-24 592227 1032.0 0.084 25-38 351616 352.1 0.048 39-58 221204 378.4 0.082 As veteran GMs have probably already guessed, the reason for this is basically the 3013 draft, where Andrew Harrison went 46, Aaron Harrison went 50, and Jon Pierce went 58. These three players combine for 99% of the Win Shares of their draft slots and 72% of the minutes played: many players in those draft slots barely play at all, and in this sample we had a lot of second round picks not be made, further skewing the numbers. If we look at the 39-58 bloc as a whole, the other five drafts produce .051 WS/48 and the 3013 draft produces .129. This suggests that there isn't really a 39-58 bloc, but that the 25-58 range is a .05 type player by this analysis.
To provide a frame of reference, last year there were 232 players with 1000+ MP, which works out to 8 per team and is thus a rough indication of "rotation player". In that sample, a .05 WS/48 player was 20th percentile (solid bench), .084 was 38th (starter), and .122 was 67th (primary option).
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The issue with this approach illustrated by the 3013 second round is that players who play more skew the averages, but playing more is itself a (rough) indication that a player is worthwhile. If a draft slot has produced a Derrick McKey, that should be part of the history. There are two ways we can look at it that way. A quick and crude way is to look simply at minutes played per draft slot divided by 51, the number of player-seasons on record for these drafts. When we do that, the tiers look like...
2452 for picks 1-3 1582 for picks 4-10 1095 for picks 11-17 708 for picks 18-26 457 for picks 27-38 217 for picks 39-58
...which lines up pretty well with the first analysis but indicates a strong subdivision of the first tier. Whereas the 11th pick produced .151 WS/48 which was better than the 1st or 3rd pick, each of the top 3 draft picks produced more than twice as many MP.
A more robust way of looking at this is to average each pick's WS/48 (and using 0 for players who did not play or were not drafted). This approach also has problems because it treats Coby Karl's 5 minutes of -.654 WS/48 as 1/6th of the total output, but it works out pretty well anyway:
pick ws/48 1 0.111 2 0.137 3 0.132 4 0.055 5 0.078 6 0.080 7 0.056 8 0.097 9 0.083 10 0.111 11 0.061 12 0.043 13 0.058 14 0.052 15 0.077 16 0.066 17 0.047 18 0.037 19 0.046 20 0.068 21 0.046 22 0.055 23 0.079 24 0.035 25 0.019 26 0.052 27 0.017 28 0.021 29 0.028 30 0.053 31 0.002 32 0.002 33 0.038 34 0.032 35 0.008 36 0.007 37 0.038 38 0.027 39 -0.014 40 -0.005 41 0.004 42 0.007 43 0.028 44 0.019 45 0.012 46 0.027 47 -0.012 48 -0.099 49 0.015 50 0.016 51 0.010 52 0.020 53 0.026 54 0.019 55 -0.009 56 0.046 57 0.011 58 -0.011 Which breaks down into ranges like so...
range ws/48 1-10 0.094 11-23 0.057 24-38 0.025 39-58 0.006 All three methods tell us pretty much the same thing, which is a good sign. 1-10 is where you can expect to get a good player (1-3 a star), 11-25 is a starter, 26-38 is a bench guy, 39-58 is a scrub. There is of course a chance that any pick can become the best player in the league, but it would be silly to therefore say that a #1 and a #58 pick have equal expected value, and that is what this analysis is meant to indicate.
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Next I'm going to try and evaluate how well teams did over this six year sample by comparing their actual picks' performance with the expected value of each slot, but first I'm going to have to unify these metrics somehow.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 20, 2015 9:31:57 GMT -6
Next I'm going to try and evaluate how well teams did over this six year sample by comparing their actual picks' performance with the expected value of each slot, but first I'm going to have to unify these metrics somehow. Would love to see this. I have a feeling I'm going to do well if it's 3010-3015 still, I had some really good drafts over that period
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Post by Druce on Aug 20, 2015 9:37:49 GMT -6
good times.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 20, 2015 10:27:35 GMT -6
Curious why you limited your sample data to 3010-3015 drafts
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Post by eric on Aug 20, 2015 10:32:22 GMT -6
Curious why you limited your sample data to 3010-3015 drafts Wanted to give players time to develop, get SC/RC loving, reduce the systematic error that bad teams generally get good picks and thus deflate the WS of their players for the first year or two.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Aug 20, 2015 10:34:25 GMT -6
What about all the drafts before 3010 though?
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Post by Lazy Pete on Aug 20, 2015 10:38:33 GMT -6
I think the data is spotty from those years
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Post by KwYawnza on Aug 20, 2015 10:41:22 GMT -6
Yeah fuck you if you pick 47, that used to be the lifetime channel for me growing up.
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Post by eric on Aug 20, 2015 10:43:28 GMT -6
What about all the drafts before 3010 though? pete got it, the only years with box scores are 3006, 3007, and 3010-present.
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Post by eric on Aug 24, 2015 11:00:51 GMT -6
First off, some information was not filed correctly in the first post. Nothing really changes except that the first minutes played tier should be picks 1-4 instead of 1-3. In the first post I had developed three ways of looking at draft pick production: minutes played, aggregate Win Shares per 48 minutes, and average Win Shares per 48 minutes. I decided that the best way to combine these was to average the two WS/48 approaches, multiply by minutes played, and voila! Win Shares per year. Compare that to each pick and we find out which players over- or under-performed their draft slot, total that up by team and we get... no diff avg Team 10 11.70 1.17 76ers 8 -7.10 -0.89 Blazers 17 6.51 0.38 Bucks 9 12.52 1.39 Bullets 9 -2.91 -0.32 Bulls 14 -8.46 -0.60 Cavaliers 15 4.26 0.28 Celtics 4 4.68 1.17 Clippers 9 6.04 0.67 Grizzlies 5 -0.15 -0.03 Hawks 12 -0.03 0.00 Heat 12 1.18 0.10 Hornets 5 8.50 1.70 Jazz 20 15.16 0.76 Kings 10 -1.42 -0.14 Knicks 11 6.92 0.63 Lakers 5 1.60 0.32 Magic 4 12.43 3.11 Mavericks 19 2.42 0.13 Nets 15 -11.94 -0.80 Nuggets 11 0.69 0.06 Pacers 2 6.98 3.49 Pelicans 11 -8.34 -0.76 Pistons 15 11.29 0.75 Raptors 16 2.70 0.17 Sonics 4 -0.23 -0.06 Spurs 12 13.55 1.13 Suns 1 -0.03 -0.03 Thunder 11 -8.58 -0.78 Warriors 10 -1.86 -0.19 Wolves
no diff avg max min Team 2 6.98 3.49 7.61 -0.64 Pelicans 4 12.43 3.11 12.28 -0.39 Mavericks 5 8.50 1.70 9.86 -0.72 Jazz 9 12.52 1.39 5.24 -0.52 Bullets 4 4.68 1.17 5.10 -0.18 Clippers 10 11.70 1.17 7.75 -1.20 76ers 12 13.55 1.13 9.51 -2.61 Suns 20 15.16 0.76 8.21 -4.15 Kings 15 11.29 0.75 6.00 -1.23 Raptors 9 6.04 0.67 3.87 -1.63 Grizzlies 11 6.92 0.63 5.69 -2.29 Lakers 17 6.51 0.38 4.81 -2.26 Bucks 5 1.60 0.32 1.68 -0.24 Magic 15 4.26 0.28 4.95 -1.61 Celtics 16 2.70 0.17 9.54 -2.96 Sonics 19 2.42 0.13 10.59 -4.78 Nets 12 1.18 0.10 7.79 -4.17 Hornets 11 0.69 0.06 2.49 -1.47 Pacers 12 -0.03 0.00 4.73 -2.18 Heat 5 -0.15 -0.03 3.80 -3.76 Hawks 1 -0.03 -0.03 -0.03 -0.03 Thunder 4 -0.23 -0.06 0.60 -1.08 Spurs 10 -1.42 -0.14 1.68 -1.49 Knicks 10 -1.86 -0.19 3.21 -2.25 Wolves 9 -2.91 -0.32 1.37 -2.26 Bulls 14 -8.46 -0.60 0.83 -2.93 Cavaliers 11 -8.34 -0.76 7.00 -4.53 Pistons 11 -8.58 -0.78 0.54 -2.45 Warriors 15 -11.94 -0.80 4.70 -4.33 Nuggets 8 -7.10 -0.89 0.48 -4.45 Blazers The most reliable drafter of sufficient volume in this era is Face-in. ANK1990 had bigger hits but took some bums too. The biggest boom or bust guy was Heebs. How big? Let's look at the top 10 over- and under-performers and find out! diff year pick team name 12.28 3013 50 Mavs Aaron Harrison 10.59 3013 11 Nets Georges Niang 9.86 3011 56 Jazz Mustafa Shakur 9.54 3013 20 Sonics Kristaps Porzingis 9.51 3013 58 Suns Jon Pierce 8.21 3012 6 Kings Stephon Marbury 7.79 3014 35 Hornets Scoonie Murray 7.75 3011 3 76ers Mike Conley 7.61 3010 2 Pel'ans Gary Bossert
-4.01 3011 7 Pistons Joakim Noah -4.07 3011 6 Nets Spencer Hawes -4.13 3012 7 Pistons Antoine Walker -4.13 3013 6 Nuggets D'Angelo Russell -4.15 3012 9 Kings Kerry Kittles -4.17 3014 6 Hornets Paul Ahye -4.33 3011 5 Nuggets Nick Young -4.45 3010 3 Blazers Scottie Pippen -4.53 3010 7 Pistons Kenny Smith -4.78 3012 2 Nets Chalky Studebaker Even though Mike Conley has a higher career WS/48 and WS/year than Aaron Harrison, the fact that he was drafted 3 and Harrison 50 makes Harrison a much higher overperformer. Similarly there were much worse players than Chalky, whose .07 WS/48 made him a borderline starter, but being picked #2 and dropping out of the league crushes his career numbers. Heebs is the only GM with a top 5 and bottom 5 pick by this metric, but @rv and 20s Navidad get some credit for having a top 10 and bottom 10 in the same draft. Here's the best and worst pick by team: team max name 76ers 7.75 Mike Conley Blazers 0.48 Fred VanVleet Bucks 4.81 Nick Fazekas Bullets 5.24 George McCloud Bulls 1.37 Sarunas Marciulionis Cavs 0.83 Quincy McCall Celtics 4.95 Moochie Norris Clips 5.10 Michael Redd Grizz 3.87 Delon Wright Hawks 3.80 Frank Kaminsky Heat 4.73 Allen Iverson Hornets 7.79 Scoonie Murray Jazz 9.86 Mustafa Shakur Kings 8.21 Stephon Marbury Knicks 1.68 Broderick Langhi Lakers 5.69 Shareef Abdur-Rahim Magic 1.68 Chris Mihm Mavs 12.28 Aaron Harrison Nets 10.59 Georges Niang Nuggets 4.70 Jermaine O'Neal Pacers 2.49 Kevin Durant P'icans 7.61 Gary Bossert Pistons 7.00 Myles Turner Raptors 6.00 Andrew Harrison Sonics 9.54 Kristaps Porzingis Spurs 0.60 Terry Davis Suns 9.51 Jon Pierce Thunder -0.03 Toney Mack Ws 0.54 Jahlil Okafor Wolves 3.21 Stacey King team min name 76ers -1.20 Isaac Gaines Blazers -4.45 Scottie Pippen Bucks -2.26 Thaddeus Young Bullets -0.52 Kelly Oubre Bulls -2.26 Derrick McKey Cavs -2.93 DerMarr Johnson Celtics -1.61 Glen Davis Clips -0.18 Etan Thomas Grizz -1.63 Dino Radja Hawks -3.76 Kevin Johnson Heat -2.18 Karl-Anthony Towns Hornets -4.17 Paul Ahye Jazz -0.72 Tom Hammonds Kings -4.15 Kerry Kittles Knicks -1.49 Deshawn Olsen Lakers -2.29 Bart Kofoed Magic -0.24 Emmanuel Mudiay Mavs -0.39 Erick Barkley Nets -4.78 Chalky Studebaker Nuggets -4.33 Nick Young Pacers -1.47 Jason Smith P'cans -0.64 Norwood Barber Pistons -4.53 Kenny Smith Raptors -1.23 Waterbug Grant Sonics -2.96 Jeff Green Spurs -1.08 Jerome Moiso Suns -2.61 Justice Winslow Thunder -0.03 Toney Mack Ws -2.45 Mike Miller Wolves -2.25 Marcus Fizer And here's every pick made, just in case anyone wanted to see what guy did what. year pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3010 1 76ers 25153 85 0.162 7.70 5.69 2.01 David Robinson 3010 2 Pellies 33237 146 0.211 13.30 5.69 7.61 Gary Bossert 3010 3 Blazers 9415 14 0.069 1.24 5.69 -4.45 Scottie Pippen 3010 4 Nuggets 24006 26 0.051 2.33 5.69 -3.35 Dennis Hopson 3010 5 Hawks 6677 5 0.034 0.43 4.20 -3.76 Kevin Johnson 3010 6 Celtics 27130 77 0.136 6.98 4.20 2.79 Armen Gilliam 3010 7 Pistons 8565 -4 -0.021 -0.34 4.20 -4.53 Kenny Smith 3010 8 Nets 16336 28 0.082 2.53 4.20 -1.66 Reggie Miller 3010 9 Sonics 18585 32 0.083 2.91 4.20 -1.29 Mark Jackson 3010 10 Kings 24167 63 0.125 5.71 4.20 1.51 Athansios Cathasach 3010 11 Bulls 0 0 0.000 0.00 2.26 -2.26 Derrick McKey 3010 12 Lakers 5929 -6 -0.047 -0.53 1.76 -2.29 Bart Kofoed 3010 13 Pistons 7952 5 0.031 0.47 1.76 -1.29 Reggie Lewis 3010 14 Mavs 15973 29 0.087 2.62 1.76 0.86 Muggsy Bogues 3010 15 Hornets 1105 2 0.098 0.21 1.76 -1.56 Olden Polynice 3010 16 Celtics 15422 41 0.126 3.69 1.76 1.93 Chris Welp 3010 17 Sonics 260 0 -0.068 -0.03 1.76 -1.80 Reggie Williams 3010 18 Kings 6025 4 0.028 0.32 1.08 -0.76 Brad Lohaus 3010 19 Blazers 1461 1 0.028 0.08 1.08 -1.00 Dallas Comegys 3010 20 Cavs 4971 9 0.086 0.81 1.08 -0.26 Horace Grant 3010 21 Bulls 1291 1 0.033 0.08 1.08 -1.00 Joe Wolf 3010 22 Celtics 1453 1 0.025 0.07 1.08 -1.01 Chris Dudley 3010 23 Sonics 6227 13 0.101 1.19 1.08 0.12 Theofanis Christodoulou 3010 24 Nets 3428 0 0.007 0.04 0.76 -0.72 Benny Bolton 3010 25 Raptors 9054 8 0.045 0.77 0.61 0.16 Hansi Gnad 3010 26 Knicks 271 0 0.085 0.04 0.61 -0.56 Jamie Dixon 3010 27 Nets 8445 -1 -0.003 -0.05 0.38 -0.43 Lester Fonville 3010 28 Nuggets 6513 -3 -0.020 -0.24 0.38 -0.62 Gay Elmore 3010 29 Nets 8802 -6 -0.034 -0.56 0.38 -0.94 Steve Alford 3010 30 Bulls 14947 19 0.062 1.75 0.38 1.37 Sarunas Marciulionis 3010 31 Pellies 4034 -3 -0.034 -0.26 0.38 -0.64 Norwood Barber 3010 32 Nuggets 2232 -3 -0.069 -0.29 0.38 -0.67 Song Tao 3010 33 Celtics 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Ron Grandison 3010 34 Celtics 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Doug Lee 3010 35 Pistons 3857 1 0.008 0.06 0.38 -0.32 Ken Norman 3010 36 Blazers 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Bruce Dalrymple 3010 37 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 3010 38 Nets 6129 -3 -0.025 -0.28 0.38 -0.67 Winston Garland 3010 39 Kings 1980 -2 -0.045 -0.17 0.18 -0.35 Phil Zevenbergen 3010 40 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 41 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 42 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 43 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 44 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 45 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 46 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 47 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 48 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 49 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 50 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 51 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 52 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 53 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 54 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 55 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 56 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 57 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3010 58 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 year draft pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3011 1 Pacers 26332 82 0.149 8.18 5.69 2.49 Kevin Durant 3011 2 Kings 27735 94 0.162 9.37 5.69 3.68 Greg Oden 3011 3 76ers 29848 134 0.216 13.44 5.69 7.75 Mike Conley 3011 4 Lakers 28474 64 0.108 6.39 5.69 0.71 Al Horford 3011 5 Nuggets 7099 -1 -0.009 -0.14 4.20 -4.33 Nick Young 3011 6 Nets 4961 1 0.012 0.13 4.20 -4.07 Spencer Hawes 3011 7 Pistons 4184 2 0.021 0.18 4.20 -4.01 Joakim Noah 3011 8 Sonics 8020 12 0.074 1.23 4.20 -2.96 Jeff Green 3011 9 Sonics 25720 61 0.115 6.15 4.20 1.95 Yi Jianlian 3011 10 Blazers 9143 25 0.131 2.50 4.20 -1.69 Tiago Splitter 3011 11 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 2.26 -2.26 Thaddeus Young 3011 12 Bucks 25056 66 0.126 6.57 1.76 4.81 Nick Fazekas 3011 13 Bucks 11022 17 0.075 1.73 1.76 -0.03 Arron Afflalo 3011 14 Nets 17072 53 0.148 5.26 1.76 3.50 Acie Law IV 3011 15 Celtics 994 2 0.074 0.15 1.76 -1.61 Glen Davis 3011 16 76ers 22435 35 0.074 3.47 1.76 1.71 Marc Gasol 3011 17 Pacers 3954 3 0.036 0.30 1.76 -1.47 Jason Smith 3011 18 Bucks 3203 3 0.052 0.35 1.08 -0.73 Sean Williams 3011 19 Kings 2091 1 0.024 0.11 1.08 -0.97 Corey Brewer 3011 20 Kings 1584 0 -0.002 0.00 1.08 -1.08 Javaris Crittenton 3011 21 Hornets 1202 0 -0.004 -0.01 1.08 -1.09 Wilson Chandler 3011 22 Pacers 7259 12 0.077 1.17 1.08 0.09 Rodney Stuckey 3011 23 Nets 11596 26 0.108 2.60 1.08 1.52 Josh McRoberts 3011 24 Suns 1589 1 0.021 0.07 0.76 -0.69 Petteri Koponen 3011 25 Knicks 1813 2 0.063 0.24 0.61 -0.37 Jared Dudley 3011 26 Sonics 57 0 0.004 0.00 0.61 -0.61 Daequan Cook 3011 27 Kings 5146 -2 -0.017 -0.18 0.38 -0.56 Marco Belinelli 3011 28 Raptors 17228 41 0.113 4.07 0.38 3.69 Julian Wright 3011 29 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Jermareo Davidson 3011 30 Raptors 198 0 0.043 0.02 0.38 -0.36 Aaron Brooks 3011 31 Nuggets 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Kyrylo Fesenko 3011 32 Raptors 5278 8 0.073 0.81 0.38 0.42 Morris Almond 3011 33 Nets 20422 34 0.081 3.44 0.38 3.06 DJ Strawberry 3011 34 Kings 1390 1 0.048 0.14 0.38 -0.24 Al Thornton 3011 35 Celtics 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Brad Newley 3011 36 Pistons 1102 1 0.032 0.07 0.38 -0.31 JamesOn Curry 3011 37 Sonics 14 0 -0.143 0.00 0.38 -0.39 Stanko Barac 3011 38 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Brandan Wright 3011 39 Bulls 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Giorgios Printezis 3011 40 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Stephane Lasme 3011 41 Heat 3826 -4 -0.046 -0.37 0.18 -0.55 Rudy Fernandez 3011 42 Kings 23 0 -0.049 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Reyshawn Terry 3011 43 Hawks 1556 3 0.106 0.34 0.18 0.16 Alando Tucker 3011 44 Celtics 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Anthony Tolliver 3011 45 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Forfeit 3011 46 Knicks 16549 15 0.043 1.48 0.18 1.30 Aaron Gray 3011 47 Wolves 6504 -11 -0.081 -1.10 0.18 -1.29 Dominic McGuire 3011 48 Bulls 5 0 -0.654 -0.01 0.18 -0.19 Coby Karl 3011 49 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Forfeit 3011 50 Hornets 102 0 -0.023 0.00 0.18 -0.19 Chris Richard 3011 51 Hawks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Carl Landry 3011 52 Kings 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Gary Neal 3011 53 Jazz 123 0 0.105 0.03 0.18 -0.15 Herbert Hill 3011 54 Knicks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Gustavo Ayon 3011 55 Magic 2225 0 -0.002 -0.01 0.18 -0.19 Joel Anthony 3011 56 Jazz 23142 100 0.208 10.04 0.18 9.86 Mustafa Shakur 3011 57 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Forfeit 3011 58 Nuggets 1292 -2 -0.068 -0.18 0.18 -0.36 Jared Jordan year draft pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3012 1 Nuggets 21876 29 0.064 3.25 5.69 -2.43 Kobe Bryant 3012 2 Nets 5655 8 0.069 0.90 5.69 -4.78 Chalky Studebaker 3012 3 76ers 23222 68 0.140 7.54 5.69 1.85 Ray Allen 3012 4 Lakers 23414 102 0.210 11.38 5.69 5.69 Shareef Abdur-Rahim 3012 5 Heat 25808 80 0.149 8.93 4.20 4.73 Allen Iverson 3012 6 Kings 24997 112 0.214 12.40 4.20 8.21 Stephon Marbury 3012 7 Pistons 2590 1 0.011 0.07 4.20 -4.13 Antoine Walker 3012 8 Pacers 17088 41 0.117 4.61 4.20 0.41 Marcus Camby 3012 9 Kings 307 0 0.070 0.05 4.20 -4.15 Kerry Kittles 3012 10 Nuggets 23865 80 0.161 8.90 4.20 4.70 Jermaine O'Neal 3012 11 Raptors 22445 57 0.122 6.36 2.26 4.10 Walter McCarty 3012 12 Bucks 5150 4 0.036 0.43 1.76 -1.34 Todd Fuller 3012 13 Kings 18933 36 0.092 4.02 1.76 2.26 Ben Wallace 3012 14 Wolves 5426 7 0.059 0.74 1.76 -1.03 Peja Stojakovic 3012 15 Hornets 18606 30 0.079 3.38 1.76 1.62 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 3012 16 Kings 13676 32 0.113 3.58 1.76 1.82 Othella Harrington 3012 17 Suns 23143 78 0.162 8.68 1.76 6.91 Steve Nash 3012 18 Nets 6399 1 0.011 0.17 1.08 -0.91 Kurt Jackson 3012 19 Kings 17632 41 0.112 4.56 1.08 3.48 Phil Lovelette 3012 20 Raptors 441 1 0.063 0.06 1.08 -1.01 Jamie Feick 3012 21 Knicks 20789 25 0.057 2.76 1.08 1.68 Broderick Langhi 3012 22 76ers 2272 0 -0.006 -0.03 1.08 -1.11 Roy Rogers Jr 3012 23 Nuggets 4101 0 0.005 0.05 1.08 -1.03 Jesus Abdul-Wahad 3012 24 Celtics 15958 51 0.155 5.71 0.76 4.95 Moochie Norris 3012 25 Raptors 1762 1 0.040 0.16 0.61 -0.45 Bill Murray 3012 26 Lakers 23057 40 0.084 4.47 0.61 3.86 Priest Lauderdale 3012 27 Suns 3281 0 -0.001 -0.01 0.38 -0.39 Derek Fisher 3012 28 76ers 5183 5 0.043 0.52 0.38 0.14 Jerome Williams 3012 29 Nets 144 0 0.090 0.03 0.38 -0.35 Vitaly Potapenko 3012 30 76ers 2826 6 0.105 0.69 0.38 0.31 John Wallace 3012 31 Nuggets 7722 6 0.034 0.62 0.38 0.24 Carl Issel 3012 32 Lakers 1101 0 -0.003 -0.01 0.38 -0.39 Ron Riley 3012 33 Heat 2920 -1 -0.024 -0.16 0.38 -0.55 Samaki Walker 3012 34 Nets 7771 1 0.004 0.08 0.38 -0.30 Erick Dampier 3012 35 Kings 2392 -3 -0.068 -0.38 0.38 -0.76 Trey Campbell 3012 36 Pistons 2788 -2 -0.036 -0.23 0.38 -0.61 Lorenzen Wright 3012 37 Pacers 49 0 0.206 0.02 0.38 -0.36 Malik Rose 3012 38 Sonics 29 0 -0.019 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Jeff McInnis 3012 39 Bucks 387 0 0.024 0.02 0.18 -0.16 Malik Richmond 3012 40 Heat 4287 -5 -0.059 -0.59 0.18 -0.77 Darvin Ham 3012 41 Sonics 957 1 0.070 0.16 0.18 -0.03 Will Cunningham 3012 42 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 43 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 44 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 45 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 46 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 47 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 48 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 49 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 50 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 51 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 52 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 53 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 54 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 55 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 56 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 57 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3012 58 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 year draft pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3013 1 Wars 21927 50 0.109 6.23 5.69 0.54 Jahlil Okafor 3013 2 Pistons 22792 101 0.214 12.68 5.69 7.00 Myles Turner 3013 3 Wolves 22995 49 0.102 6.10 5.69 0.41 Stanley Johnson 3013 4 Heat 15845 28 0.085 3.51 5.69 -2.18 Karl-Anthony Towns 3013 5 Magic 16778 32 0.091 3.96 4.20 -0.24 Emmanuel Mudiay 3013 6 Nuggets 2016 1 0.012 0.06 4.20 -4.13 D'Angelo Russell 3013 7 Cavs 20250 36 0.086 4.52 4.20 0.33 Cliff Alexander 3013 8 Grizz 23451 65 0.132 8.07 4.20 3.87 Delon Wright 3013 9 Hawks 21092 64 0.146 7.99 4.20 3.80 Frank Kaminsky 3013 10 Suns 8957 13 0.068 1.59 4.20 -2.61 Justice Winslow 3013 11 Nets 24098 103 0.205 12.85 2.26 10.59 Georges Niang 3013 12 Cavs 9833 1 0.006 0.14 1.76 -1.62 Willie Cauley-Stein 3013 13 Bullets 12159 10 0.039 1.25 1.76 -0.52 Kelly Oubre 3013 14 Sonics 4754 1 0.006 0.07 1.76 -1.69 Jerian Grant 3013 15 Wars 5488 -1 -0.005 -0.08 1.76 -1.84 Kevon Looney 3013 16 Hornets 5750 -2 -0.018 -0.27 1.76 -2.03 Jonah Samake 3013 17 Raptors 15459 26 0.081 3.27 1.76 1.51 Justin Anderson 3013 18 Knicks 5781 -3 -0.028 -0.41 1.08 -1.49 Deshawn Olsen 3013 19 Bullets 12300 19 0.072 2.32 1.08 1.24 Mario Hezonja 3013 20 Sonics 22848 85 0.178 10.61 1.08 9.54 Kristaps Porzingis 3013 21 Grizz 12488 31 0.121 3.92 1.08 2.84 Bobby Portis 3013 22 Suns 11074 29 0.125 3.59 1.08 2.52 Joshua Smith 3013 23 Pistons 8737 16 0.088 2.00 1.08 0.92 RJ Hunter 3013 24 Cavs 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.76 -0.76 Rondae Hollis 3013 25 Hornets 1417 0 -0.016 -0.06 0.61 -0.67 Derek Shelton 3013 26 Pacers 15586 21 0.066 2.66 0.61 2.06 Montrezl Harrell 3013 27 Nets 368 1 0.078 0.07 0.38 -0.31 Tyrone Wallace 3013 28 Nets 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Jake Layman 3013 29 Cavs 3720 -1 -0.017 -0.17 0.38 -0.55 Devin Booker 3013 30 Wolves 7633 4 0.023 0.45 0.38 0.07 Robert Upshaw 3013 31 Nuggets 1042 1 0.054 0.15 0.38 -0.24 Dakari Johnson 3013 32 Heat 7131 0 0.003 0.05 0.38 -0.33 Chris Obekpa 3013 33 Magic 3575 4 0.056 0.52 0.38 0.14 Tyus Jones 3013 34 Cavs 951 2 0.095 0.24 0.38 -0.15 Sam Dekker 3013 35 Pistons 66 0 -0.088 -0.02 0.38 -0.40 Anthony Brown 3013 36 Nuggets 180 0 -0.024 -0.01 0.38 -0.39 Rashad Vaughn 3013 37 Grizz 2039 2 0.043 0.23 0.38 -0.15 Kennedy Meeks 3013 38 Grizz 6603 11 0.082 1.41 0.38 1.03 Aaron White 3013 39 Nets 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Ron Baker 3013 40 Suns 157 0 0.006 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Dez Wells 3013 41 Bucks 1659 0 0.012 0.05 0.18 -0.13 Terrell Morgan 3013 42 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Aleksandar Vezenkov 3013 43 Bullets 1748 0 0.007 0.03 0.18 -0.15 Chris Walker 3013 44 76ers 3876 4 0.052 0.52 0.18 0.34 Michael Frazier 3013 45 Hornets 1609 1 0.015 0.06 0.18 -0.12 Christian Wood 3013 46 Raptors 18324 49 0.129 6.18 0.18 6.00 Andrew Harrison 3013 47 Knicks 131 0 -0.014 0.00 0.18 -0.19 Vince Nesby 3013 48 Hawks 68 0 0.070 0.01 0.18 -0.17 AJ Hammons 3013 49 Blazers 6947 5 0.037 0.66 0.18 0.48 Fred VanVleet 3013 50 Mavs 22436 100 0.213 12.46 0.18 12.28 Aaron Harrison 3013 51 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Yogi Ferrell 3013 52 Blazers 57 0 0.061 0.01 0.18 -0.17 Joseph Young 3013 53 Kings 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Terran Petteway 3013 54 Clips 97 0 -0.009 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Mouhammadou Jaiteh 3013 55 Pacers 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Marcus Paige 3013 56 Bullets 3161 1 0.011 0.09 0.18 -0.09 Moussa Diagne 3013 57 Wars 6147 0 -0.003 -0.05 0.18 -0.23 Caris LeVert 3013 58 Suns 22364 78 0.166 9.69 0.18 9.51 Jon Pierce year draft pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3014 1 Heat 19140 36 0.090 5.15 5.69 -0.53 Juan Keaney 3014 2 Wars 18117 29 0.077 4.17 5.69 -1.52 Kenyon Martin 3014 3 Magic 18033 52 0.137 7.37 5.69 1.68 Chris Mihm 3014 4 Wolves 16637 24 0.069 3.44 5.69 -2.25 Marcus Fizer 3014 5 Cavs 13876 35 0.122 5.02 4.20 0.83 Quincy McCall 3014 6 Hornets 3357 0 0.003 0.03 4.20 -4.17 Paul Ahye 3014 7 Sonics 13188 22 0.081 3.17 4.20 -1.03 Bob Douglas 3014 8 Bullets 18357 49 0.128 7.00 4.20 2.80 Stromile Swift 3014 9 Cavs 6867 9 0.062 1.26 4.20 -2.93 DerMarr Johnson 3014 10 Grizz 15050 34 0.108 4.85 4.20 0.65 Desmond Mason 3014 11 Wars 2763 -1 -0.024 -0.19 2.26 -2.45 Mike Miller 3014 12 Raptors 8175 15 0.086 2.10 1.76 0.34 Jamal Crawford 3014 13 Knicks 7322 2 0.014 0.31 1.76 -1.45 Hedo Turkoglu 3014 14 Bucks 14392 35 0.117 4.99 1.76 3.23 Quentin Richardson 3014 15 Clips 18008 48 0.128 6.86 1.76 5.10 Michael Redd 3014 16 Wolves 7737 2 0.014 0.32 1.76 -1.44 Joel Pryzbilla 3014 17 Pistons 8299 8 0.045 1.12 1.76 -0.64 Mamadou N'Diaye 3014 18 Sonics 15904 35 0.106 5.02 1.08 3.95 Dalibor Bagaric 3014 19 Pacers 3442 3 0.038 0.39 1.08 -0.69 Darius Miles 3014 20 Heat 1924 1 0.019 0.11 1.08 -0.97 DeShawn Stevenson 3014 21 Spurs 0 0 0.000 0.00 1.08 -1.08 Jerome Moiso 3014 22 Cavs 10885 7 0.032 1.03 1.08 -0.05 Tristan Benjamin 3014 23 Grizz 25 0 0.178 0.01 1.08 -1.06 Thomas Kersey 3014 24 Cavs 2450 -3 -0.051 -0.37 0.76 -1.13 Keyon Dooling 3014 25 Lakers 8637 1 0.004 0.11 0.61 -0.50 Speedy Claxton 3014 26 Wars 3008 0 -0.007 -0.07 0.61 -0.67 Jake Tsakalidis 3014 27 Clips 2806 1 0.024 0.20 0.38 -0.18 Etan Thomas 3014 28 Cavs 747 0 0.024 0.05 0.38 -0.33 Mike Smith 3014 29 Spurs 4034 6 0.069 0.83 0.38 0.45 Primoz Brezec 3014 30 Suns 177 0 0.034 0.02 0.38 -0.36 Morris Peterson 3014 31 Wars 4890 -3 -0.025 -0.36 0.38 -0.74 Marko Jaric 3014 32 Heat 3017 1 0.014 0.13 0.38 -0.26 Dan Langhi 3014 33 Suns 167 0 0.130 0.06 0.38 -0.32 Igor Rakocevic 3014 34 Magic 4664 4 0.042 0.58 0.38 0.20 Jesse Dickau 3014 35 Hornets 19527 57 0.141 8.17 0.38 7.79 Scoonie Murray 3014 36 Mavs 1733 0 0.011 0.06 0.38 -0.32 Donnell Harvey 3014 37 Bullets 14400 26 0.087 3.72 0.38 3.34 Jamaal Magloire 3014 38 Mavs 259 0 -0.008 -0.01 0.38 -0.39 Erick Barkley 3014 39 Jazz 1713 -1 -0.036 -0.19 0.18 -0.37 Courtney Alexander 3014 40 Bucks 7 0 0.052 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Scoonie Penn 3014 41 Spurs 351 0 -0.020 -0.02 0.18 -0.20 Mateen Cleaves 3014 42 Nuggets 5562 7 0.063 1.05 0.18 0.87 Mobius Bryant 3014 43 Knicks 1626 0 0.005 0.02 0.18 -0.16 Olumide Oyedeji 3014 44 Bulls 950 1 0.061 0.17 0.18 -0.01 Eduardo Najera 3014 45 Heat 2739 0 0.008 0.06 0.18 -0.12 Ernest Brown 3014 46 Celtics 1828 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Soumaila Samake 3014 47 Clips 1159 1 0.040 0.14 0.18 -0.04 Josip Sesar 3014 48 Nets 112 0 0.013 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Khalid El-Amin 3014 49 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3014 50 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 3014 51 Raptors 290 0 0.062 0.05 0.18 -0.13 Jake Voskuhl 3014 52 Jazz 211 0 0.093 0.06 0.18 -0.12 Eddie House 3014 53 76ers 458 1 0.053 0.07 0.18 -0.11 Pepe Sanchez 3014 54 Kings 10994 31 0.133 4.36 0.18 4.18 Ime Udoka 3014 55 Lakers 11 0 -0.050 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Chris Carrawell 3014 56 Lakers 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Malik Allen 3014 57 Celtics 4436 4 0.047 0.62 0.18 0.44 DeeAndre Hulett 3014 58 Celtics 2016 0 0.001 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Mark Madsen year draft pick Round mp ws ws/48 ws/yr pred diff name 3015 1 Wars 16006 30 0.090 4.98 5.69 -0.71 Shawn Kemp 3015 2 Cavs 16454 31 0.091 5.18 5.69 -0.51 Pervis Ellison 3015 3 Heat 17216 46 0.128 7.65 5.69 1.97 Glen Rice 3015 4 Wolves 13576 29 0.103 4.85 5.69 -0.84 Tim Hardaway 3015 5 Wars 14718 26 0.085 4.32 4.20 0.13 Sean Elliot 3015 6 Raptors 9491 20 0.103 3.40 4.20 -0.79 Danny Ferry 3015 7 Bullets 17250 57 0.158 9.44 4.20 5.24 George McCloud 3015 8 Sonics 10368 11 0.053 1.89 4.20 -2.30 Mookie Blaylock 3015 9 Hornets 5572 3 0.027 0.52 4.20 -3.68 Nick Anderson 3015 10 Bucks 15013 45 0.143 7.46 4.20 3.26 Vlade Divac 3015 11 Cavs 1948 3 0.065 0.44 2.26 -1.82 Gary Leonard 3015 12 Cavs 10956 14 0.059 2.25 1.76 0.49 Chris Childs 3015 13 Wolves 14969 30 0.096 4.97 1.76 3.21 Stacey King 3015 14 Blazers 9887 9 0.044 1.50 1.76 -0.27 Clifford Robinson 3015 15 Kings 4637 8 0.085 1.37 1.76 -0.39 Sherman Douglas 3015 16 Lakers 2627 5 0.098 0.89 1.76 -0.87 Pooh Richardson 3015 17 Grizz 1612 1 0.023 0.13 1.76 -1.63 Dino Radja 3015 18 Pacers 3530 4 0.054 0.67 1.08 -0.41 JR Reid 3015 19 Pacers 0 0 0.000 0.00 1.08 -1.08 Chucky Brown 3015 20 Grizz 11330 15 0.062 2.43 1.08 1.36 Randy White 3015 21 Grizz 856 1 0.071 0.21 1.08 -0.87 Rocky Francis 3015 22 Raptors 1171 2 0.070 0.28 1.08 -0.79 Todd Lichti 3015 23 Hornets 6226 0 0.001 0.02 1.08 -1.06 Drew Nichols 3015 24 Wolves 7127 11 0.076 1.89 0.76 1.13 Dana Barros 3015 25 Raptors 7585 -4 -0.024 -0.62 0.61 -1.23 Waterbug Grant 3015 26 Wolves 2883 5 0.077 0.77 0.61 0.17 Doug Roth 3015 27 Knicks 5002 2 0.022 0.38 0.38 -0.01 Taylor Swift 3015 28 Wars 2416 -2 -0.032 -0.27 0.38 -0.65 BJ Armstrong 3015 29 Bullets 5964 8 0.062 1.29 0.38 0.91 Adrian Caldwell 3015 30 Lakers 8174 9 0.053 1.50 0.38 1.12 Kenny Battle 3015 31 Heat 1468 -1 -0.020 -0.10 0.38 -0.49 Russ Schell 3015 32 Wars 2313 0 -0.007 -0.06 0.38 -0.44 Kenny Payne 3015 33 Suns 1406 0 -0.016 -0.08 0.38 -0.46 Junie Lewis 3015 34 Nets 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.38 -0.38 Jaren Jackson 3015 35 Bullets 688 1 0.053 0.13 0.38 -0.25 Jay Edwards 3015 36 Spurs 4819 6 0.058 0.98 0.38 0.60 Terry Davis 3015 37 Sonics 1100 1 0.034 0.13 0.38 -0.25 Roy Marble 3015 38 Hornets 14472 40 0.133 6.70 0.38 6.32 Michael Smith 3015 39 Suns 152 0 -0.027 -0.01 0.18 -0.20 Scoonie Sura 3015 40 Jazz 5770 -3 -0.027 -0.54 0.18 -0.72 Tom Hammonds 3015 41 Raptors 2 0 0.006 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Jeff Sanders 3015 42 Blazers 5617 3 0.029 0.56 0.18 0.38 Blue Edwards 3015 43 Lakers 691 1 0.053 0.13 0.18 -0.05 Haywoode Workman 3015 44 Bucks 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Anthony Cook 3015 45 Bucks 9519 10 0.051 1.69 0.18 1.51 LaDon Childs 3015 46 Celtics 1321 0 -0.013 -0.06 0.18 -0.24 Brandon Butler 3015 47 Suns 327 0 -0.014 -0.02 0.18 -0.20 Hahn Dampier 3015 48 Pacers 114 0 -0.010 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Brian Quinnett 3015 49 Bulls 757 1 0.051 0.13 0.18 -0.05 Xavier Pollard 3015 50 Celtics 2287 -4 -0.092 -0.73 0.18 -0.91 Hayden McCoy 3015 51 Nuggets 2048 2 0.054 0.38 0.18 0.20 Byron Irvin 3015 52 Bulls 2229 -1 -0.031 -0.24 0.18 -0.42 John Morton 3015 53 Kings 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Mike Morrison 3015 54 Celtics 5261 -1 -0.011 -0.21 0.18 -0.39 Myles Garnett 3015 55 Bulls 0 0 0.000 0.00 0.18 -0.18 Mike Higgins 3015 56 Thunder 743 1 0.057 0.15 0.18 -0.03 Toney Mack 3015 57 Sonics 588 0 0.024 0.05 0.18 -0.13 Scoonie Hayes 3015 58 76ers 1752 -6 -0.167 -1.02 0.18 -1.20 Isaac Gaines
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