3022 Win Shares (578 views)

[eric]

h/t ANK1990

All-NBA players by WS rank
PG: 4, 1, 6
SG: 2, 5, 14
SF: x, x, 1 (Snaps would be #1 of SF, Savage would be #1 too or #2 behind Snaps)
PF: 1, 5, 4
C_: x, 2, x (Tobi would be #3, Kemp would be #6 or #7 with Tobi)

Again, the Thunder get friggin' hosed in every area. Shareef should be #2, Vlade should be #1 and gets bumped for a guy in Kemp with 7.8 friggin' Win Shares, Harrison should be #1...

...but not MVP.



The true MVP was Kristaps Porzingis, which makes even more sense when you remember he has to live in that s***hole Los Angeles. Even that cow town Oklahoma City would be a better place to live, at least they understand the concept of motor vehicles even if they are all Model Ts. The Thunder had the #1 C, #2 PF, #3 SF (how you doing Justin Anderson) and the #7 SG. The Lakers went #4, #3, #20, and #3, so it's not like they were the twenty-ought-seven Cavs but still Harrison had a clearly superior supporting cast.

Sandor Clegane already has more career WS than Gregor, but Jimmy was narrowly better overall (though not per MP). Hoosiers > GoT

point guard

15.1 Aaron Harrison
14.0 Stephen Curry
13.9 Damon Stoudamire
12.4 Mike Conley
12.2 Ty Lawson
11.8 Stephon Marbury
10.8 Isiah Thomas
10.6 Jrue Holiday
9.9 Gerald Nappy
9.5 Brandon Jennings
9.2 Tyus Edney
9.2 Travis Best
8.5 Darrell Floyd
8.4 Dana Barros
8.2 Delon Wright
7.9 Frank Johnson
7.9 Dutch Burch
7.8 Quincy McCall
7.0 Daniel Gibson
6.5 Mustafa Shakur
6.5 Moochie Norris
6.0 Bob Cousy
5.3 Mookie Blaylock
5.3 Tim Hardaway
5.0 Scoonie Murray
4.6 Ricky Rubio
4.4 Rajon Rondo
4.3 Steve Nash
3.8 Nicklaus Templeton
3.7 Emmanuel Mudiay
3.5 Marques Haynes
3.3 Si Green
3.1 Sherman Douglas
2.5 Kyle Lowry
2.1 Acie Law IV
2.0 Ed Cota
2.0 Jonny Flynn
1.9 Brent Oakley
1.7 Waterbug Grant
1.6 Kina Grannis
1.5 LaDon Childs
1.4 Kevin McKenna
1.3 Dick Groat
1.1 Forest Able
1.1 Hal Lear
1.0 Slick Leonard
0.9 Eric Maynor
0.5 Jerry West
0.4 Burdette Haldorson
0.3 Darren Collison
0.3 Irv Bemoras
0.3 James Dial
0.2 Will Walls
0.1 Johnny McCarthy
0.0 Bob Hagan
0.0 Muggsy Bogues
0.0 Jeff Lamp
0.0 Chris Thomas
0.0 Jim Ray
0.0 Billy Pretko
0.0 David Nesterovich
-0.1 Sam Strom
-0.1 Kareem Blazejowski
-0.1 JJ Barea
-0.1 Chuck Mencel
-0.1 Zeke Sinicola
-0.2 Nicolas Barlow
-0.3 Kurt Jackson
-0.5 Sebastian Telfair
-0.7 Jerome Robinson
-0.8 Jeremy Lin
-1.1 Dick Dickey
-1.7 Josh Coleman
-2.4 George Bush
-2.8 Ramon Peeler
shooting guard

16.6 Kristaps Porzingis
12.8 Frank Selvy
12.5 Ronald Savage
10.3 George McCloud
10.0 Jimmy Chitwood
9.8 Sandor Clegane
9.4 Quentin Richardson
9.0 Wesley Matthews
8.9 Allen Iverson
8.5 James Harden
8.3 Clyde Drexler
8.1 Michael Redd
7.7 Jerry Stackhouse
7.3 RJ Hunter
7.2 Chase Budinger
7.1 Brandon Roy
6.1 JJ Redick
5.4 Ime Udoka
5.4 Vernon Strokes
4.9 Ray Allen
4.8 Juan Keaney
4.0 Albert King
3.9 Charles Bradley
3.8 Sergii Gladyr
3.7 Andrea Bargnani
3.6 DJ Strawberry
3.3 Danny Ainge
3.3 Thabo Sefolosha
3.2 Pee Wee Kirkland
2.7 Hedo Turkoglu
2.7 Kobe Bryant
2.3 Brady Alston
2.1 Kenny Battle
1.8 Kelly Tripucka
1.6 Bill Sharman
1.6 Roberto Porter
1.5 Homer Spain
1.5 Rodney Carney
1.4 Dick Garmaker
1.3 Marcus Thornton
1.3 Patrick Douglas
1.0 Lawrence Moten
0.8 Malik Brennan
0.8 Ed O'Bannon
0.8 Shawn Respert
0.6 Delonte West
0.5 Devan Downey
0.5 Joe Holup
0.5 Michael Finley
0.5 Shannon Brown
0.4 Alexis McCloud
0.4 Denham Brown
0.3 Walter Devlin
0.3 Kelly Oubre
0.3 Randy Foye
0.2 Dick Bunt
0.2 Dick Schnittker
0.1 Norm Stewart
0.1 Al Ferrari
0.1 Damian Mihm
0.1 Jack Stephens
0.1 Arron Afflalo
0.1 Paul Judson
0.0 Jim Baechtold
0.0 Fred Hoiberg
0.0 Caleb Samake
0.0 Billy Adcock
0.0 Randolph Childress
0.0 Chris Childs
0.0 Erik Mikell
0.0 Eric Snow
0.0 Bob Kessler
-0.1 Marcus Lenard
-0.1 Ernest Childs
-0.2 Bobby Fisher
-0.2 Brent Barry
-0.3 Mateen Thorpe
small forward

9.3 Georges Niang
8.9 Jon Pierce
8.6 Justin Anderson
8.6 Michael Smith
8.2 Mark Aguirre
7.8 Adam Morrison
7.3 Al Horford
7.3 Stanley Johnson
7.1 Walter McCarty
7.0 Willie Nauls
6.3 Tyreke Evans
6.2 Yi Jianlian
5.7 Broderick Langhi
5.6 Paul Arizin
5.6 Andrew Harrison
5.5 Nick Fazekas
5.3 Orlando Woolridge
5.3 DeMar DeRozan
5.1 Sean Elliot
5.1 George Yardley
5.1 Rolando Blackman
4.7 Glen Rice
4.3 Rudy Gay
4.2 Gary Bossert
4.0 Phil Lovelette
4.0 Corliss Williamson
4.0 Steve Holt
3.8 Kevin Loder
3.6 Lance Stephenson
3.6 Danny Green
3.6 Desmond Mason
3.4 Sam Young
3.2 Frank Brickowski
3.1 Renaldo Balkman
2.6 Paul Millsap
2.6 Dennis Hopson
2.4 Whitey Skood
2.4 Pete Holzman
2.0 Kittenfish Cathasach
2.0 Marcus Fizer
1.4 Tom Marshall
1.3 Nick Anderson
1.2 JR Smith
1.1 Boris Nachamkin
1.1 Hassan Adams
1.0 Dorrell Wright
0.9 Ed Conlin
0.8 Jerry Bird
0.7 Chalky Studebaker
0.6 Dickie Hemric
0.3 Don Rehfeldt
0.3 James Johnson
0.3 Gerald Henderson
0.2 Shaun Stowner
0.2 Jesse Arnelle
0.1 Thomas Ramsay
0.1 Shawne Williams
0.1 Howard Sessums
0.1 Ronnie Brewer
0.1 Earl Clark
0.0 Gene Melchiorre
0.0 Terrence Williams
-0.9 John Vanbiesbrouck
-2.5 Erhlich Bachman
-3.3 Bobby Caffey
power forward

14.7 DeJuan Blair
14.2 Shareef Abdur-Rahim
12.9 Jermaine O'Neal
12.4 Bob Pettit
11.5 Myles Turner
11.0 Tobi Oyedeji
9.1 Blake Griffin
8.7 Stromile Swift
8.0 LaMarcus Aldridge
7.9 Buck Williams
7.8 Shawn Kemp
7.8 Chris Mihm
7.8 Herb Williams
7.3 Kevin Durant
7.1 Pervis Ellison
6.9 Chet Noe
6.4 Tex Silverman
6.3 Othella Harrington
5.7 Josh Smith
5.4 Hassan Whiteside
4.9 Champ Godbolt
4.9 Larry Nance
4.7 Tyrus Thomas
4.6 Mouhamed Sene
4.6 Otto Krieghauser
4.2 Stephon Templeton
3.9 Jon Brockman
3.7 Ray Felix
3.7 Steve Johnson
3.4 Derrick Favors
3.2 Red Karr
3.2 Marcus Freiberger
3.1 Shelden Williams
3.1 Mel Hutchins
2.9 Karl-Anthony Towns
2.3 Montrezl Harrell
2.2 JR Reid
2.0 Michael Scott
1.9 Clifford Robinson
1.6 Petur Gudmundsson
1.6 Andrew DeClercq
1.5 Marc Gasol
1.3 Larry Foust
1.2 Dick Ricketts
1.1 Mike Alvarez
1.1 Antonio McDyess
1.0 Jim Paxson
1.0 Kenyon Martin
0.9 Jason Caffey
0.9 David Vaughn
0.8 Gene Dyker
0.8 Bob Hopkins
0.7 Rasheed Wallace
0.4 Troy Barnes
0.3 Mamadou N'Diaye
0.3 Buzz Bennett
0.1 Taj Gibson
0.1 Mack Suprunowicz
0.1 Peja Stojakovic
0.1 Louis Amundson
0.1 Happy Mahfouz
0.0 Aaron Gray
0.0 Stanley Hudson
0.0 Sam Williams
0.0 Julian Wright
0.0 Jesse Dickau
0.0 Daniel Orton
-0.2 Mark Workman
-0.2 Pops Mensah-Bonsu
-0.9 Joshua Spaulding
-1.1 Justin Medvedenko
center

11.5 Vlade Divac
11.2 Joe Smith
10.4 BJ Mullens
10.2 Greg Oden
7.9 Kurt Thomas
7.7 Jason Collier
7.5 Clyde Lovelette
7.1 Jahlil Okafor
6.9 Dalibor Bagaric
6.7 Dwight Howard
6.6 Cliff Alexander
6.2 Hasheem Thabeet
6.0 Frank Kaminsky
6.0 Jamaal Magloire
5.5 Bryant Reeves
5.2 Al Jefferson
5.1 Art Spoelstra
4.9 Theo Ratliff
4.9 David Robinson
4.7 Stacey King
4.5 Marcus Camby
4.4 Bob Douglas
4.4 Loren Meyer
4.3 Courtney Edney
4.3 Ray Tolbert
4.1 Priest Lauderdale
3.8 Randy White
3.8 Ha Seung-Jin
3.7 Patrick O'Bryant
3.5 Marc Najera
3.4 Mobius Bryant
3.4 Maurice Stokes
3.3 Hilton Armstrong
3.3 Kenny "Powers" Sears
3.3 Jeff Murray
3.0 Bill Russell
2.9 Kevin Garnett
2.8 Carl Issel
2.5 Scoonie Saperstein
2.4 Danny Schayes
2.4 Gregor Clegane
2.3 Ed Head
2.3 Tom Chambers
2.1 George Zidek
1.9 Tom Heinsohn
1.8 Adrian Caldwell
1.5 Thurl Bailey
1.3 Jordan Hill
1.3 Broderick Williamson
1.3 Manute Bol
1.0 Jeremy Yardley
0.8 Rip Gish
0.8 Toda Wall
0.5 Ben Wallace
0.3 Chuck Share
0.3 Doug Roth
0.2 Alton Lister
0.2 Gil Reich III
0.2 Willie Cauley-Stein
0.2 Daniel Leonard
0.1 Tristan Benjamin
0.1 Josh Boone
0.0 Greg Ostertag
0.0 Cherokee Parks
0.0 Andre Teague
0.0 Lennie Small
-0.2 Ike Borsavage
-1.1 Tony Martinez

[Trofie]

I don't like these

[eric]

Sept 23, 2015 17:56:06 GMT -6 Trofie said:

I don't like these

I'm always open to feedback. First just let me come down to where you work and slap the d*** out of your mouth, so the words don't come out all garbled.

[Odin]

turner was sf for a solid half the season

[eric]

Sept 23, 2015 18:13:27 GMT -6 Odin said:

turner was sf for a solid half the season

regarding positions, all that matters in this analysis is what they're listed as in the box score. i recognize that this doesn't reflect depth charts and what they're listed as on the roster, but i feel it's the most accurate description of what position they actually played at which is all we should care about. as it happens Myles ended up as a 3.75 on average, so the analysis recognized he played a good chunk of time at SF, but in a five position scheme he's rounded to PF.

[Bankz]

My starting PG posted a -1.1 win share. His backup posted -0.1

Now that is how you tank...

[Bankz]

Considering how bad I was Paul Arizin posted a solid w/s

And surprised King was in the 4's

[SugarShaun]

Iverson was decent and he was on my team most the year

[Face-in]

Chitwood da gawd

[Lazy Pete]

Fucking Admiral sucked dick this season. 10k dump bucks well spent

[SugarShaun]

This will help with who to target in free agency

If I strike out then we hand the keys to Walter Devlin and let him drive us off a cliff

[SugarShaun]

Kevin Garnett 2.9

[KwYawnza]

DeJohn and Ty area force

[Lazy Pete]

Sept 24, 2015 10:26:57 GMT -6 KwYawnza said:

DeJohn and Ty area force

I would watch that movie

[Trofie]

Sept 23, 2015 18:13:20 GMT -6 eric said:

Sept 23, 2015 17:56:06 GMT -6 Trofie said:

I don't like these

I'm always open to feedback. First just let me come down to where you work and slap the d*** out of your mouth, so the words don't come out all garbled.

[gbgalla24]

It's hard out here for the Thunder. We never get the respect we deserve.

[dilworth]

PF is loaded. I'm happy with Lovelette being the 7th best center in terms of win shares as a rookie.

[Lazy Pete]

Weird that Pops was 1st team all defense but still produced a negative win share value

[eric]

Sept 24, 2015 12:35:41 GMT -6 Lazy Pete said:

Weird that Pops was 1st team all defense but still produced a negative win share value

Shooting 38% from the field will do that to a man.

[Bankz]

KG and his 2.9 win share is going to get a max contract...

[Mad King]

the Hound top 6 SG as a rookie?

[Deleted]

Michael Smith should have more offers due to this.

[20s Navidad]

Jrue Holiday one of 8 PGs with double digit win shares.

BJ Mullens top 3 C in the league.