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Post by Druce on Nov 23, 2015 10:18:32 GMT -6
 Kevin Love 19 PF/C 6'10 250 UCLA B- B- C+ C B- A Love is a very good stretch 4. He enters the league as the best shooting big man from this class. His outlet passes are legendary, and he snags a bunch or boards giving him a lot of opportunities to show off that skill. Where Love needs a lot of polish is on the defensive end. He's very good pretty much everywhere else. He could use some development of his inside moves, but he's strong and a willing learner. He's got a pretty high floor and his ceiling is enormous if he becomes a better defender. The problem is with all the effort he gives in every other aspect of the game, it suffers on defense. |
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Post by SPL on Nov 23, 2015 11:18:59 GMT -6
Very nice
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Nov 23, 2015 12:02:35 GMT -6
If his defense develops in TC's he could be a monster
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 12:39:27 GMT -6
I like him a lot.
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Post by Heebs on Nov 23, 2015 13:10:09 GMT -6
Would be much better if he were listed at just PF.
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Post by MistleTacoe on Nov 23, 2015 15:42:08 GMT -6
Do want
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Post by Souper Troopers on Nov 27, 2015 2:36:11 GMT -6
Would be much better if he were listed at just PF. Nah he should never be a SF. |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 27, 2015 5:31:23 GMT -6
Would be much better if he were listed at just PF. Nah he should never be a SF. Not disagreeing. Just pointing out that he would have a higher ceiling if he could be moved to SF. |
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Post by Odin on Nov 27, 2015 5:56:27 GMT -6
Pretty sure Ian said you can't make a dude into a good player if he starts with c defense.
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Post by Trofie on Nov 27, 2015 6:53:43 GMT -6
Steve Nash was horrible
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Post by Heebs on Nov 27, 2015 7:28:10 GMT -6
What was pee wee's starting defense?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 7:40:57 GMT -6
Pretty sure Ian said you can't make a dude into a good player if he starts with c defense. I figure you might if you make that C defense as close to a C+ as possible |
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Post by Odin on Nov 27, 2015 7:44:12 GMT -6
Pretty sure Ian said you can't make a dude into a good player if he starts with c defense. I figure you might if you make that C defense as close to a C+ as possible That's what I did with Nash. May have even started him at 100 steals. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Nov 27, 2015 10:05:34 GMT -6
Nash started with C- defense but Odin made him as close to C as he could.
I really, really wanted to make Kevin Love's profile/gradeset. Wish I would have gotten his draft.
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Post by eric on Nov 27, 2015 11:13:15 GMT -6
Defense is by far the most meaningless grade in the software. Consider that a center with 100 Stealing, 100 Shot Blocking, 100 Strength, and 5 in the rest has D+ defense, while a guy with 80 Post Defense / Drive Defense / Strength and 40 Quickness has B-. I wouldn't build a guy like that and I follow the profile words, but the principle stands. Like anything else it's in the hands of the software. If a guy knocks out three +15 Shot Blocking training camps, he's going to be a decent defender no matter where he starts. If he goes -5 every year, he'll be decent at best.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Nov 27, 2015 12:46:24 GMT -6
Nah he should never be a SF. Not disagreeing. Just pointing out that he would have a higher ceiling if he could be moved to SF. everyone post player has a higher ceiling at SF the point is he shouldn't be able to cheese and play at SF where everyone puts up better percentages |
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Post by Heebs on Nov 27, 2015 12:49:30 GMT -6
Not disagreeing. Just pointing out that he would have a higher ceiling if he could be moved to SF. everyone post player has a higher ceiling at SF the point is he shouldn't be able to cheese and play at SF where everyone puts up better percentages My thought was more that his 3pt and handling/passing stats would not atrophy as fast, and may even improve, at SF. |
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Post by Odin on Nov 27, 2015 14:13:14 GMT -6
Defense is by far the most meaningless grade in the software. Consider that a center with 100 Stealing, 100 Shot Blocking, 100 Strength, and 5 in the rest has D+ defense, while a guy with 80 Post Defense / Drive Defense / Strength and 40 Quickness has B-. I wouldn't build a guy like that and I follow the profile words, but the principle stands. Like anything else it's in the hands of the software. If a guy knocks out three +15 Shot Blocking training camps, he's going to be a decent defender no matter where he starts. If he goes -5 every year, he'll be decent at best. Making players is a lot of fun. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Dec 5, 2015 9:30:37 GMT -6
I don't know how to feel about him anymore after seeing all the comments.
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Post by Druce on Dec 7, 2015 13:16:29 GMT -6
I don't know how to feel about him anymore after seeing all the comments. sucks |
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