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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:19:51 GMT -6
Barker as great grades, shit production
Plus he is an expiring
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:20:14 GMT -6
what? your talking about what RW gave up but nothing about who he recieved in return
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Post by IanBoyd on Jun 15, 2014 19:20:31 GMT -6
push imo, wouldn't call either one *better* than the other |
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:20:45 GMT -6
Barker as great grades, shit production Plus he is an expiring
frazier has just as good as production
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 15, 2014 19:20:46 GMT -6
1. Magic 2. Skywalker 3. Paul Westphal 4. Williamson 5. Lionel Hollins that's all the PGs I can think of that's better than Foots imo. don buse brian winters brian taylor to add 3 more |
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:21:22 GMT -6
Archibald?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:22:17 GMT -6
what? your talking about what RW gave up but nothing about who he recieved in return The only good player he got back was Wright. Dawkins is a push because of his contract and Barker is looks like Tarzan play like Jane. And we all know RW aint pumping anything into wright |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:22:43 GMT -6
Barker as great grades, shit production Plus he is an expiring
frazier has just as good as production
lolno |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 15, 2014 19:23:12 GMT -6
what? your talking about what RW gave up but nothing about who he recieved in return The only good player he got back was Wright. Dawkins is a push because of his contract and Barker is looks like Tarzan play like Jane. And we all know RW aint pumping anything into wright dawkins is still useful due to rebounds and blocked shots |
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Post by Bankz on Jun 15, 2014 19:23:25 GMT -6
Can we talk about my offer? Is it shit? Is it OK? Is it fair? Is it a joke? Souper Troopers |
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Post by IanBoyd on Jun 15, 2014 19:23:49 GMT -6
at best all of those are push/on par with Foots, don't know why you would say any of them are definitively better
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:23:53 GMT -6
The only good player he got back was Wright. Dawkins is a push because of his contract and Barker is looks like Tarzan play like Jane. And we all know RW aint pumping anything into wright dawkins is still useful due to rebounds and blocked shots But he is not worth that money |
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Post by Trofie on Jun 15, 2014 19:24:25 GMT -6
1. Magic 2. Skywalker 3. Paul Westphal 4. Williamson 5. Lionel Hollins that's all the PGs I can think of that's better than Foots imo. don buse brian winters brian taylor to add 3 more It's an opinion. All I was saying. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 15, 2014 19:24:47 GMT -6
at best all of those are push/on par with Foots, don't know why you would say any of them are definitively better they shoot better percentages, have more assists, are better pg's. one is a finals mvp. that's why i say the are better. |
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Post by Trofie on Jun 15, 2014 19:25:01 GMT -6
Can we talk about my offer? Is it shit? Is it OK? Is it fair? Is it a joke? Souper Troopers That offer was great imo |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 15, 2014 19:25:17 GMT -6
dawkins is still useful due to rebounds and blocked shots But he is not worth that money neither is frazier at 20+ mil |
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:25:51 GMT -6
frazier has just as good as production
lolno your talking like frazier has pistol pete %production here...Barker was playing on a tanking team changing positions around...also Frazier is 33 years old, he will drop in talet compated to Barker possibly improving. |
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Post by Bankz on Jun 15, 2014 19:26:23 GMT -6
Can we talk about my offer? Is it shit? Is it OK? Is it fair? Is it a joke? Souper Troopers That offer was great imo For RW or for Me? This is important because its only available for 4 minutes |
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Post by Trofie on Jun 15, 2014 19:27:29 GMT -6
For him.
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:27:37 GMT -6
at best all of those are push/on par with Foots, don't know why you would say any of them are definitively better if you have 7 PGs that are "on par" to foots he is not "elite" |
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Post by Bankz on Jun 15, 2014 19:28:31 GMT -6
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Post by Mad King on Jun 15, 2014 19:28:46 GMT -6
He isn't going to take those picks because he doenst have pick..without foots he will be a top 6 lotto like he is at this moment
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Post by Swaggy Z on Jun 15, 2014 19:31:37 GMT -6
You guys forgot to mention Lucas.
I understand, its okay as he has played like shit until this year.
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Post by Trofie on Jun 15, 2014 19:32:56 GMT -6
He's played like shit his whole career
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Post by Bruns on Jun 15, 2014 20:38:46 GMT -6
Told RW I wasn't interested Frazier with age and contract. Not to mention barely shooting over 40% this year.
So basically offering:
23 year old Barker- gone +6 last two TC's, shot 45% and damn near led league in 3 pt% only year I played him at his position
21 year old Wright who looks like a promising prospect
21 year old Dawkins who several ppl offered a max two weeks ago. I know he's not as pretty after that TC but this is why I pulled the trigger on the trade.
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27 year old "elite" foots who is expiring next year and most if not all ppl will be maxing after next season.
Rw, not me, was persuing this trade and we were in talks for about two hours last night. If not for all the RW hate this does not get this type of reaction imo. If you think this trade deserves to get vetoed over the other lopsided trades that didn't get vetoed then in 2poors words, "go sit on your thumb!"
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Post by Odin on Jun 15, 2014 20:43:23 GMT -6
So what is the general opinion here?
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Post by Bankz on Jun 15, 2014 20:43:56 GMT -6
Told RW I wasn't interested Frazier with age and contract. Not to mention barely shooting over 40% this year. So basically offering: 23 year old Barker- gone +6 last two TC's, shot 45% and damn near led league in 3 pt% only year I played him at his position 21 year old Wright who looks like a promising prospect 21 year old Dawkins who several ppl offered a max two weeks ago. I know he's not as pretty after that TC but this is why I pulled the trigger on the trade. For 27 year old "elite" foots who is expiring next year and most if not all ppl will be maxing after next season. Rw, not me, was persuing this trade and we were in talks for about two hours last night. If not for all the RW hate this does not get this type of reaction imo. If you think this trade deserves to get vetoed over the other lopsided trades that didn't get vetoed then in 2poors words, "go sit on your thumb!" Dude some people get viewed differently... Its how this league has always worked. I will speak for my self. When i got the better end of deals with GM's I always got the "veto" this shit treatment and had a couple deals veto'd. But when I got raped... Trofie getting 3 first for Cliff Robinson, Me unloading the farm to Mops and others no one said "veto" and help bankz out. It was only when I got the better of a deal the outrage came into play. In other words... just fucking deal with it brother. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 20:44:20 GMT -6
TXIA says no veto
Everyone else says veto
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Post by Bankz on Jun 15, 2014 20:44:55 GMT -6
So what is the general opinion here? Soup & Soup along with Bruns & RW want the deal to go down. Everyone else is team Odin. I think that is the current breakdown of the thread. I could, COULD be wrong |
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Post by RWisoursavior on Jun 15, 2014 20:45:41 GMT -6
Frazier is a negative to my team. I will not be winning in the next 2 years no matter what. No one even offered to take him, for anything, why would they when he's making 20 mil per year over the next three years.
This deal is essentially Foots for those guys, getting to add in Frazier is a BONUS for me.
Also lol at saying Dawkins is not good, dude is 21, and was traded for 3 picks just last season. 5 years from now when he's in his prime he'll make 18 mil, far from an awful deal. It's not like he's bad now putting up 18/12/2.5 are good numbers, especially for someone 21.
The problem with Bankz deal is what are those picks gonna end up being, maybe one lotto, plus an okay prospect at a position I am already good to go at.
You guys way over value picks.
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