Post by Trofie on Jun 19, 2014 12:52:44 GMT -6
1. If you were Canes what deal would you have taken? 05 Bulls, 06 Rockets, 07 Rockets. Or 03 bucks, 04 Blazers, 05 Sonics, 07 Clippers?
I take the latter. The Rockets picks are prob. going to be shit, Bulls might be decent but I like what Bruns is doing. 03 Bucks sucks, 04 Blazers sucks, but those other two have a better shot at being good or flipped for a player.
I don't really like any of those picks but probably the 4 instead of 3 because they are all varied in year and team. The selection and the amount would have pushed it over the edge. The variety of the collection is the difference maker. However like I mentioned none of those picks are probably going to end up being all that good.
Neither deal looks that good to me but 2 of the same teams picks that far down the line can be a good thing so I'd probably take the deal with the 2 Rockets picks.
Easily the clipper deal, you never deal a "star" player to an already good team , and get their picks back. Just doesn't make sense.
2. Who won that deal involving the bulls, rockets, and heat? Who was the loser.
I think the Rockets win because they gave up nothing of real value that Bob doesn't replace. Just like me and the Adams trade, I think the Heat lose, but it's not a crippling loss b/c he wasn't going to win shit with Bob anyways.
I would say that Dil won that trade by getting both Collins and McAdoo to load up in the stacked West. I would say that Canes lost this deal because he missed out on more picks to acquire 3 picks and 2 of those picks are from a team that just acquired Doug Collins and Bob McAdoo to add to an already pretty good roster.
Right now I'd say the Rockets are the clear winners, followed by the Bulls, followed by Canes and the Heat. That said, it will definitely come down to how well McGinnis and McAdoo play in the coming years with how much time they still have remaining on their contracts. I don't think any of those picks will be worth much.
Rockets win that easily, I kind of like it for the bulls not sure yet, and canes was the Big Loser imo.
3. Who Wins this deal? Bucks Send Dr J, merriweather, 03 bucks- Nets send Neon, campy, high
Buck win, Erving is exp, that pick is garbage. Neon is the prize of this deal because he's guaranteed, plus he'll prob. re-sign. High could end up pretty good as well.
Bucks, they get a really good young player in Neon, a good SF in Campy who is only 25, and the High who has the potential to be pretty good with points pumped into him. They do give up Dr. J but with his expiring deal and only giving up that pick I would say that the Bucks would win that deal.
Neither. Both teams lose.
I think it's close obviously. If the nets had one more good player they win, but as is probably the bucks
4. Who would you rather win their first title? Rw or Dump, reasoning?
Rw b/c I don't hate him as much as some people, and it would chap my ass if dump won based on luck in FA, but let's be honest either of those two winning a title would involve a tremendous amount of luck.
Dump, he can be annoying and kind of a dick but I would like to see Dump win one. However, I hope to win one before them.
I guess dump because he's been around longer and I like him more most of the time. That said, dump was annoying enough when he got lucky and "won" free agency, I can't imagine what him winning a title would be like. RW was terrible when he won a couple division titles with his "throne" bullshit and he just really annoys me all the way around. Luckily we'll probably never have to worry about this hypothetical question coming to fruition
Dump easily, I don't mind him at all. He got very lucky getting the players he did via Free Agency, but I would hope he wouldn't be a giant tool if he did win it. We know Rw would be.
5. Would the clippers have been better if they were able to swap out Gilmore for McAdoo and Merriweather?
The clipper would be marginally better in that scenario. Meriweather is an upgrade over their current 2nd big, but not a massive one.
I don't think so and going forward I would rather have Gilmore than McAdoo so i think the Clippers would be better served to keep him rather than have those 2.
Probably not. Gilmore is a better all-around player than McAdoo with much better rebounding grades and stats. Plus they have very similar shooting percentages. Put McAdoo on the Clippers and his PPG are sure to dip. Merriweather is a nice player and would add depth but at this point if I'm trying to win a title, like Dirt is, I'd rather have Gilmore than McAdoo and Merriweather.
I would personally take McAdoo and merriweather. Merriweather is on a good deal and is +1 at Center. Both Gilmore and McAdoo are having down years. Change of scenery may help
6. Who is the luckiest Gm in sim league, who is the most unlucky?
Scat is the luckiest, I am the unluckiest. If anyone answers any differently they're retarded.
Scat is easily the luckiest GM over the history of all TMBSL. The amount of times he has won Lotteries or Moved up high with lower odds is just crazy. He has also had the luck to win lotteries in drafts that had some very good prospects.
As for unluckiest GM i'm going to go with Druce. Last offseason was just a microcosm of his bad luck. He traded Alvan Adams to dump for picks and had the chance of him leaving Boston in FA, not only does dump bring back Adams he signs Lanier as well so dump signed 2 of the 3 best FA in the class. This offseason wasn't the first time that Druce has had bad luck. He always seems to have good and competing teams, outside of his tanking times like now, however he just never seems to get over that hump because of some unlucky breaks.
. Far and away Soup. Constantly gets lucky with his players blowing up and getting lucky on trades. No idea how it happens but it does. He must have some sort of sim karma.
If ZPZ were in the league it would be a tie between him and Druce for unlucky, between losing players in FA and Gm's getting lucky when they have their picks, woof.
Luckiest is probably Scat
7. Your thoughts on bidding on players in FA with no intent on keeping them? Do you think we should force teams to have to keep those players that make over 8 mil for an entire year?
It depends on the realism factor and how much you want to keep that. PatrickFace signed Steve Smith in 2.0 on a max from me and immediately traded him. I think it's lame and stupid, and completely unrealistic. If you get lucky enough to land a guy like that that you didn't previously have Bird's on, then you keep his ass for at least a season. If you want to tank then do so with a star or don't offer them.
We need to do something but i'm not really sure what or how things like that can truly be stopped. It seems to be happening a lot less now that we have placed the 60 day rule but I also don't want to make it an entire year that someone can't be traded. If I were to sign some players thinking it would work with the roster I have and then come to the regular season for some reason it just doesn't work at all and I have the chance to move players and just tank rather than flounder I think that should be allowed. So I would say that the rule we currently have in place works well.
I have no problem with it and have obviously done it myself. Often times I'll offer contracts to guys I don't really need just because I think it's a good contract and would be glad to land a good player on a good deal (see Phil Smith, Kim Hughes, others in the past). Other times I'll take a chance and over-bid on a guy like Chenier or Cowens in hopes of them improving and being a starter for my team for coming years. If that doesn't work out and said player doesn't fit into my future plans I'll look trade a guy for expirings or a first. As for keeping them an entire year, I don't think that needs to be a rule. If anything maybe lower it from $8 mil or move it back from day 60, but I don't think that rule needs changed.
I would like to see the 1 year rule go in place. Maybe put it in tiers 8-11 mil day 99. 11 mil + make them stay on the team for a year. Would make it more fair and would take the luck of Fa possibly out of the picture.
8. Should Gm's be placed in tiers allowing them to trade certain amount of picks? Meaning RW is tier 5 . Can only trade 3 years in the future and Soup is tier 1. Can trade 6 years in the future if he likes.
No. Not a chance. No way in hell would I be in favor of that because it's too subjective and gives some GMs an advantage over others. If people want to be short sighted and trade picks way in the future, I don't see why they're stopped from doing so. I also would like to see pick protection brought back and I don't know why it was outlawed in the first place.
I would say no because I don't know who or how that list would be created. My thing with picks is I just don't want to see a shitty gm who most likely won't stick around all that long, not saying we have any GMs like that currently because we seem to be running at pretty much peak level right now, trading a bunch of picks so the next guy is fucked for 3 or 4 years. No real way to stop that i suppose unless we were to put in like a probation period or something that says new gms can't trade picks so many years in advance until they have gm'd through an offseason or something.
No. That's a slippery slope and just more shit for the commish to have to deal with. There's good GM's and there's bad GM's, but making certain rules for certain GM's creates an unfair advantage and that's the last thing someone like RW needs.
I kind of like the idea. I probably worded the question wrong. But for a new Gm I like it , and for previous Gm's that have quit I like it. Maybe just 2 tiers. 3 picks and 5.
9. Your team isn't doing so hot. You have a top 5 sim player on a expiring contract. If you trade him you are guaranteed two top 8 lotto picks. Do you deal him or roll the dice.
I trade the player almost every time, unless I have a solid winner built around them.
It all depends on the draft, like in the case of the 04 draft I might be more inclined to do it. However, I would rather have a top 5 player than not so it would take a special class for me to do that. LIke doing it in a draft where you only have 2 or 3 players who look like they have the potential to lead you to a finals trading a player who can do it for picks 5 and 8 in that trade would kind of suck but doing it in say next years class and getting pick 5 and 8 may not be as bad. So, I would probably be more likely to keep the top 5 player but if the draft is especially deep I would think about it longer.
Depends on what the rest of my roster looks like, how many of mine own future picks I have, among other things. With my current team I probably would not take that deal. If I'm someone like Ian with his current roster I probably would.
I probably take the deal every day if it's a strong draft and I think the picks have a high probability of hitting. If it's this 03 draft. No way. There are many variables imo.
10. Put yourself in Rw's shoes. You are now the first openly gay sim Gm in history. What do you think he should do with his team? He can't trade for his 1st's because we all know Oops is never here. Just like most african american fathers boom roasted. Do you make the move he made with Bruns? Way's to improve his/your team?
lmao oh god. I would have taken the offer Bankz made him for Foots. I'd also probably do the Bruns deal, that Frazier contract sucks and so does Frazier, while Dawkins could have some value. Honestly I don't know and I think that's probably part of the reason ward just bailed because he didn't know what to do either.
I try really hard to trade my good players, however small that number may be, to get my picks back. I would pester Oops with PM's until he answered and then go from there. I don't think I would do that deal with Bruns and just try and roll with what I got. An option I would look into in order to improve my team is possibly trading Foots Walker or John Drew for a collection of good to pretty good players and try and sneak out 7th and 8th seeds, or as I like to call it the Dallas Mavericks special (real life not sim sorry soup), and just try and somewhat compete because he is going to be stuck in no man's land no matter what for the next few sim years.
I think you have to get over the fact you don't have your pick and trade your current players that are worth a fuck and acquire assets. Deal Drew for picks or young talent and move on.
I take the latter. The Rockets picks are prob. going to be shit, Bulls might be decent but I like what Bruns is doing. 03 Bucks sucks, 04 Blazers sucks, but those other two have a better shot at being good or flipped for a player.
I don't really like any of those picks but probably the 4 instead of 3 because they are all varied in year and team. The selection and the amount would have pushed it over the edge. The variety of the collection is the difference maker. However like I mentioned none of those picks are probably going to end up being all that good.
Neither deal looks that good to me but 2 of the same teams picks that far down the line can be a good thing so I'd probably take the deal with the 2 Rockets picks.
Easily the clipper deal, you never deal a "star" player to an already good team , and get their picks back. Just doesn't make sense.
2. Who won that deal involving the bulls, rockets, and heat? Who was the loser.
I think the Rockets win because they gave up nothing of real value that Bob doesn't replace. Just like me and the Adams trade, I think the Heat lose, but it's not a crippling loss b/c he wasn't going to win shit with Bob anyways.
I would say that Dil won that trade by getting both Collins and McAdoo to load up in the stacked West. I would say that Canes lost this deal because he missed out on more picks to acquire 3 picks and 2 of those picks are from a team that just acquired Doug Collins and Bob McAdoo to add to an already pretty good roster.
Right now I'd say the Rockets are the clear winners, followed by the Bulls, followed by Canes and the Heat. That said, it will definitely come down to how well McGinnis and McAdoo play in the coming years with how much time they still have remaining on their contracts. I don't think any of those picks will be worth much.
Rockets win that easily, I kind of like it for the bulls not sure yet, and canes was the Big Loser imo.
3. Who Wins this deal? Bucks Send Dr J, merriweather, 03 bucks- Nets send Neon, campy, high
Buck win, Erving is exp, that pick is garbage. Neon is the prize of this deal because he's guaranteed, plus he'll prob. re-sign. High could end up pretty good as well.
Bucks, they get a really good young player in Neon, a good SF in Campy who is only 25, and the High who has the potential to be pretty good with points pumped into him. They do give up Dr. J but with his expiring deal and only giving up that pick I would say that the Bucks would win that deal.
Neither. Both teams lose.
I think it's close obviously. If the nets had one more good player they win, but as is probably the bucks
4. Who would you rather win their first title? Rw or Dump, reasoning?
Rw b/c I don't hate him as much as some people, and it would chap my ass if dump won based on luck in FA, but let's be honest either of those two winning a title would involve a tremendous amount of luck.
Dump, he can be annoying and kind of a dick but I would like to see Dump win one. However, I hope to win one before them.
I guess dump because he's been around longer and I like him more most of the time. That said, dump was annoying enough when he got lucky and "won" free agency, I can't imagine what him winning a title would be like. RW was terrible when he won a couple division titles with his "throne" bullshit and he just really annoys me all the way around. Luckily we'll probably never have to worry about this hypothetical question coming to fruition
Dump easily, I don't mind him at all. He got very lucky getting the players he did via Free Agency, but I would hope he wouldn't be a giant tool if he did win it. We know Rw would be.
5. Would the clippers have been better if they were able to swap out Gilmore for McAdoo and Merriweather?
The clipper would be marginally better in that scenario. Meriweather is an upgrade over their current 2nd big, but not a massive one.
I don't think so and going forward I would rather have Gilmore than McAdoo so i think the Clippers would be better served to keep him rather than have those 2.
Probably not. Gilmore is a better all-around player than McAdoo with much better rebounding grades and stats. Plus they have very similar shooting percentages. Put McAdoo on the Clippers and his PPG are sure to dip. Merriweather is a nice player and would add depth but at this point if I'm trying to win a title, like Dirt is, I'd rather have Gilmore than McAdoo and Merriweather.
I would personally take McAdoo and merriweather. Merriweather is on a good deal and is +1 at Center. Both Gilmore and McAdoo are having down years. Change of scenery may help
6. Who is the luckiest Gm in sim league, who is the most unlucky?
Scat is the luckiest, I am the unluckiest. If anyone answers any differently they're retarded.
Scat is easily the luckiest GM over the history of all TMBSL. The amount of times he has won Lotteries or Moved up high with lower odds is just crazy. He has also had the luck to win lotteries in drafts that had some very good prospects.
As for unluckiest GM i'm going to go with Druce. Last offseason was just a microcosm of his bad luck. He traded Alvan Adams to dump for picks and had the chance of him leaving Boston in FA, not only does dump bring back Adams he signs Lanier as well so dump signed 2 of the 3 best FA in the class. This offseason wasn't the first time that Druce has had bad luck. He always seems to have good and competing teams, outside of his tanking times like now, however he just never seems to get over that hump because of some unlucky breaks.
. Far and away Soup. Constantly gets lucky with his players blowing up and getting lucky on trades. No idea how it happens but it does. He must have some sort of sim karma.
If ZPZ were in the league it would be a tie between him and Druce for unlucky, between losing players in FA and Gm's getting lucky when they have their picks, woof.
Luckiest is probably Scat
7. Your thoughts on bidding on players in FA with no intent on keeping them? Do you think we should force teams to have to keep those players that make over 8 mil for an entire year?
It depends on the realism factor and how much you want to keep that. PatrickFace signed Steve Smith in 2.0 on a max from me and immediately traded him. I think it's lame and stupid, and completely unrealistic. If you get lucky enough to land a guy like that that you didn't previously have Bird's on, then you keep his ass for at least a season. If you want to tank then do so with a star or don't offer them.
We need to do something but i'm not really sure what or how things like that can truly be stopped. It seems to be happening a lot less now that we have placed the 60 day rule but I also don't want to make it an entire year that someone can't be traded. If I were to sign some players thinking it would work with the roster I have and then come to the regular season for some reason it just doesn't work at all and I have the chance to move players and just tank rather than flounder I think that should be allowed. So I would say that the rule we currently have in place works well.
I have no problem with it and have obviously done it myself. Often times I'll offer contracts to guys I don't really need just because I think it's a good contract and would be glad to land a good player on a good deal (see Phil Smith, Kim Hughes, others in the past). Other times I'll take a chance and over-bid on a guy like Chenier or Cowens in hopes of them improving and being a starter for my team for coming years. If that doesn't work out and said player doesn't fit into my future plans I'll look trade a guy for expirings or a first. As for keeping them an entire year, I don't think that needs to be a rule. If anything maybe lower it from $8 mil or move it back from day 60, but I don't think that rule needs changed.
I would like to see the 1 year rule go in place. Maybe put it in tiers 8-11 mil day 99. 11 mil + make them stay on the team for a year. Would make it more fair and would take the luck of Fa possibly out of the picture.
8. Should Gm's be placed in tiers allowing them to trade certain amount of picks? Meaning RW is tier 5 . Can only trade 3 years in the future and Soup is tier 1. Can trade 6 years in the future if he likes.
No. Not a chance. No way in hell would I be in favor of that because it's too subjective and gives some GMs an advantage over others. If people want to be short sighted and trade picks way in the future, I don't see why they're stopped from doing so. I also would like to see pick protection brought back and I don't know why it was outlawed in the first place.
I would say no because I don't know who or how that list would be created. My thing with picks is I just don't want to see a shitty gm who most likely won't stick around all that long, not saying we have any GMs like that currently because we seem to be running at pretty much peak level right now, trading a bunch of picks so the next guy is fucked for 3 or 4 years. No real way to stop that i suppose unless we were to put in like a probation period or something that says new gms can't trade picks so many years in advance until they have gm'd through an offseason or something.
No. That's a slippery slope and just more shit for the commish to have to deal with. There's good GM's and there's bad GM's, but making certain rules for certain GM's creates an unfair advantage and that's the last thing someone like RW needs.
I kind of like the idea. I probably worded the question wrong. But for a new Gm I like it , and for previous Gm's that have quit I like it. Maybe just 2 tiers. 3 picks and 5.
9. Your team isn't doing so hot. You have a top 5 sim player on a expiring contract. If you trade him you are guaranteed two top 8 lotto picks. Do you deal him or roll the dice.
I trade the player almost every time, unless I have a solid winner built around them.
It all depends on the draft, like in the case of the 04 draft I might be more inclined to do it. However, I would rather have a top 5 player than not so it would take a special class for me to do that. LIke doing it in a draft where you only have 2 or 3 players who look like they have the potential to lead you to a finals trading a player who can do it for picks 5 and 8 in that trade would kind of suck but doing it in say next years class and getting pick 5 and 8 may not be as bad. So, I would probably be more likely to keep the top 5 player but if the draft is especially deep I would think about it longer.
Depends on what the rest of my roster looks like, how many of mine own future picks I have, among other things. With my current team I probably would not take that deal. If I'm someone like Ian with his current roster I probably would.
I probably take the deal every day if it's a strong draft and I think the picks have a high probability of hitting. If it's this 03 draft. No way. There are many variables imo.
10. Put yourself in Rw's shoes. You are now the first openly gay sim Gm in history. What do you think he should do with his team? He can't trade for his 1st's because we all know Oops is never here. Just like most african american fathers boom roasted. Do you make the move he made with Bruns? Way's to improve his/your team?
lmao oh god. I would have taken the offer Bankz made him for Foots. I'd also probably do the Bruns deal, that Frazier contract sucks and so does Frazier, while Dawkins could have some value. Honestly I don't know and I think that's probably part of the reason ward just bailed because he didn't know what to do either.
I try really hard to trade my good players, however small that number may be, to get my picks back. I would pester Oops with PM's until he answered and then go from there. I don't think I would do that deal with Bruns and just try and roll with what I got. An option I would look into in order to improve my team is possibly trading Foots Walker or John Drew for a collection of good to pretty good players and try and sneak out 7th and 8th seeds, or as I like to call it the Dallas Mavericks special (real life not sim sorry soup), and just try and somewhat compete because he is going to be stuck in no man's land no matter what for the next few sim years.
I think you have to get over the fact you don't have your pick and trade your current players that are worth a fuck and acquire assets. Deal Drew for picks or young talent and move on.