Post by eric on Jul 24, 2015 15:12:31 GMT -6
Same thing I did in this thread but for point guards. It's mostly the same story with a couple really odd wrinkles.
The differences in stats going from center to point guard for Tier 5...
Jumping, Strength, Quickness are the same [-2:+2].
Jump Shot [-2:+3] to [-1:+4].
The big boy growth of [-5:+17] went from the Reboundings to (only) Three Point Shot, but
The quite nice growth of [-5:+15] went from Shot Blocking and Post Defense to Handling, Passing, Stealing, and Perimeter Defense.
Drive Defense was [-5:+13] for each.
Modest [-5:+10] went from Stealing to Post Defense, and
Mediocre [-5:+7] went from Handling, Passing, and Perimeter Defense to Shot Blocking and the Reboundings.
Inside Scoring continued to be the only Tier 5 distribution that wasn't purely beveled but beveled with a tail. Instead of going to +13 it went to +10 and the tail changed slightly. The average dropped from 2.975 to 1.740 give or take.
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All told, a center getting the max in every category would get +132 while a point guard would get +141.
On average the center gets +35.0 to the point guard's +38.7.
But if we multiply that by the Win Shares generated per attribute point, the center wins +26.4 to +25.1.
So a point guard will see slightly better grade increases on average as he ages, but the center will actually be slightly more helpful to the team.
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The point guard / center ratio remains pretty constant for attribute points at each Tier, but since Tiers 1-2 are negative that means the point guard loses more than the center there. I'm not sure why this is and I'm not gonna put that much effort into figuring it out. Anyone at any position that hits Tier 1 is a goner.
Centers had an odd thing where reboundings could hit +17 in Tier 5 and Tier 4, then dropped to only +9 in Tier 3 (second to Shot Blocking and Post Defense +11), then jumped back to first with +6 in Tier 2. Three Point Shooting was more consistent with point guards: 17, 17, 13, then 5 and 2 in Tiers 2 and 1 like every other non-athletic attribute.
The last really odd wrinkle is that 19 year old point guards lose potential just like 20 year old point guards. This is a major contrast with 19 year old centers, who can hold or even gain potential like 17-18 year olds of both positions. On the other hand, this means that 19 year old point guards also can't have the catastrophic potential loss of those teenagers, so it's a mixed bag.
Bottom line, if a guy has bad FT% you're probably stuck with it. (Sorry Heebs.)
The differences in stats going from center to point guard for Tier 5...
Jumping, Strength, Quickness are the same [-2:+2].
Jump Shot [-2:+3] to [-1:+4].
The big boy growth of [-5:+17] went from the Reboundings to (only) Three Point Shot, but
The quite nice growth of [-5:+15] went from Shot Blocking and Post Defense to Handling, Passing, Stealing, and Perimeter Defense.
Drive Defense was [-5:+13] for each.
Modest [-5:+10] went from Stealing to Post Defense, and
Mediocre [-5:+7] went from Handling, Passing, and Perimeter Defense to Shot Blocking and the Reboundings.
Inside Scoring continued to be the only Tier 5 distribution that wasn't purely beveled but beveled with a tail. Instead of going to +13 it went to +10 and the tail changed slightly. The average dropped from 2.975 to 1.740 give or take.
.
All told, a center getting the max in every category would get +132 while a point guard would get +141.
On average the center gets +35.0 to the point guard's +38.7.
But if we multiply that by the Win Shares generated per attribute point, the center wins +26.4 to +25.1.
So a point guard will see slightly better grade increases on average as he ages, but the center will actually be slightly more helpful to the team.
.
The point guard / center ratio remains pretty constant for attribute points at each Tier, but since Tiers 1-2 are negative that means the point guard loses more than the center there. I'm not sure why this is and I'm not gonna put that much effort into figuring it out. Anyone at any position that hits Tier 1 is a goner.
Centers had an odd thing where reboundings could hit +17 in Tier 5 and Tier 4, then dropped to only +9 in Tier 3 (second to Shot Blocking and Post Defense +11), then jumped back to first with +6 in Tier 2. Three Point Shooting was more consistent with point guards: 17, 17, 13, then 5 and 2 in Tiers 2 and 1 like every other non-athletic attribute.
The last really odd wrinkle is that 19 year old point guards lose potential just like 20 year old point guards. This is a major contrast with 19 year old centers, who can hold or even gain potential like 17-18 year olds of both positions. On the other hand, this means that 19 year old point guards also can't have the catastrophic potential loss of those teenagers, so it's a mixed bag.
Bottom line, if a guy has bad FT% you're probably stuck with it. (Sorry Heebs.)
