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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 27, 2016 13:19:16 GMT -6
Iron Islands are on the west side of Westeros so that wouldn't make any sense. Danny already said they'll be coming from the east and most likely going straight to Kings Landing. (or meeting up with Dorne forces then head north)
Vary's was in the final scene on the boat with Daenery, a few scenes before he was with the Dorn. They are not meeting up, they have met up, unless I am missing something. I don't know where Varys met up with Dany for sure, but I would think it would be in Mereen before they took off for Westeros. Varys was on the boat with Dany, and there was a shot that showed some Tyrell sails and some Dornish sails in the fleet that Dany is taking to Westeros. It doesn't make sense for him to travel so fast, but there would be no other place that makes sense for them to all meet up since Varys left before Dany returned and as far as we know he didn't really leave a plan for where he was going. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 27, 2016 13:27:58 GMT -6
Iron Islands are on the west side of Westeros so that wouldn't make any sense. Danny already said they'll be coming from the east and most likely going straight to Kings Landing. (or meeting up with Dorne forces then head north)
Vary's was in the final scene on the boat with Daenery, a few scenes before he was with the Dorn. They are not meeting up, they have met up, unless I am missing something. Varys didn't bring Dorne's forces across the narrow sea just to return again. He returned, and they will meet up once Dany reaches Westeros. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 27, 2016 13:30:21 GMT -6
Vary's was in the final scene on the boat with Daenery, a few scenes before he was with the Dorn. They are not meeting up, they have met up, unless I am missing something. I don't know where Varys met up with Dany for sure, but I would think it would be in Mereen before they took off for Westeros. Varys was on the boat with Dany, and there was a shot that showed some Tyrell sails and some Dornish sails in the fleet that Dany is taking to Westeros. It doesn't make sense for him to travel so fast, but there would be no other place that makes sense for them to all meet up since Varys left before Dany returned and as far as we know he didn't really leave a plan for where he was going. yeah Varys more than likely brought ships back |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 13:31:18 GMT -6
Varys' saying about Littlefinger will come into play at some point
"He will burn down the country just so he could become King"
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 27, 2016 13:34:54 GMT -6
I don't know where Varys met up with Dany for sure, but I would think it would be in Mereen before they took off for Westeros. Varys was on the boat with Dany, and there was a shot that showed some Tyrell sails and some Dornish sails in the fleet that Dany is taking to Westeros. It doesn't make sense for him to travel so fast, but there would be no other place that makes sense for them to all meet up since Varys left before Dany returned and as far as we know he didn't really leave a plan for where he was going. yeah Varys more than likely brought ships back I would just think it wouldn't have been that hard to have Varys return with the ships somewhere in the Mereen scenes where they had Dany check no on Daario's do you love me letter and the Tyrion chat with Dany. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 27, 2016 13:36:51 GMT -6
Varys' saying about Littlefinger will come into play at some point "He will burn down the country just so he could become King" You missed the best part of the quote. He would see the realm burn if he could be king of the ashes. |
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Post by Bruns on Jun 27, 2016 14:02:04 GMT -6
Iron Islands are on the west side of Westeros so that wouldn't make any sense. Danny already said they'll be coming from the east and most likely going straight to Kings Landing. (or meeting up with Dorne forces then head north)
Vary's was in the final scene on the boat with Daenery, a few scenes before he was with the Dorn. They are not meeting up, they have met up, unless I am missing something.
Yeah perhaps. There was some questionable time traveling going on that episode with Jamie and Arya as well. I thought they should of left Varys out of that final scene.
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Post by Majic on Jun 27, 2016 14:44:09 GMT -6
Vary's was in the final scene on the boat with Daenery, a few scenes before he was with the Dorn. They are not meeting up, they have met up, unless I am missing something.
Yeah perhaps. There was some questionable time traveling going on that episode with Jamie and Arya as well. I thought they should of left Varys out of that final scene.
I dont think all the plots are supposed to be linear of each other exactly. Who is to say that it hasn't been weeks/months later, they just cut to the part of them leaving its always been my interpretation that all events are not happening at the same exact time, but rather staggered in order to keep every story involved |
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Post by Bruns on Jun 27, 2016 15:00:13 GMT -6
Yeah perhaps. There was some questionable time traveling going on that episode with Jamie and Arya as well. I thought they should of left Varys out of that final scene.
I dont think all the plots are supposed to be linear of each other exactly. Who is to say that it hasn't been weeks/months later, they just cut to the part of them leaving its always been my interpretation that all events are not happening at the same exact time, but rather staggered in order to keep every story involved
I don't think all the plots are supposed to be linear of each other exactly either but there was serious time gaps in that episode compared to others. If it keeps the story moving I'm all for it.
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Post by Bankz on Jun 27, 2016 15:25:21 GMT -6
My thoughts...
1) I didn't like the final smirk to Bran by his uncle. I feel like he's not really working with The North and this is a huge twist now that he's dead. It may be as simple as wanting Bran to enter the wall to remove the magic powers. But one would hope Bran would be able to see that vision and not do that. idk i'm super interested in his role next season. At this point he's the only living person in the world who knows Jon's true bloodline.
2) Arya has lost her innocence. She's now a stone cold killer.
3) Varys on the ship threw me off some. One would assume he's negotiating a landing port for Danny and her army. I may be wrong since i'm not sure how the map lays out. But its clear Ceresi better load up on a army because at this point she's going to be murdered.
4) When Jon is made King of the North that freaking scene was nearly identical to his brothers. But Jon has no fear unlike his brother. If you go back and watch the very first scene of the show where Jon, Bran and Robb the death never affected Jon but Robb was shaken.
5) Someone mentioned Sansa's look. I think she understands how evil the people her brother will be facing. And she's lost everyone. Her look to Littlefinger was one of knowing he's going to come after Jon. I'm not sure if we discussed this in this thread or in another but I said that Littlefinger's end goal was to sit on the throne. He said it in S1 and he confirmed it last night. He didn't think the North would unite behind a "bastard" but they did right in front of his face. Its taken away his leverage and angle to take the North and Vale with Sansa.
6) That leads me to "what will Littlefinger do?" I think we could easily see him offer his services to Danny. And by Services I mean his hand in marriage. But she's surrounded by people who will make that impossible for Littlefinger. To me that only leaves Ceresi.
7) Speaking of Ceresi, what a horrible, terrible bitch. But what a smart and now powerful one. I feel like Jamie will walk away from her. He's transformed from a evil man who would shove a boy out a tower with no remorse to a man who takes pride in his honor and doing what is right. He kept his word and never raised arms against Blackfish and he's so offended being compared to the Frey's and being a King Slayer.
8) Euron... I think the ship has sailed on him being able to unite with Danny. I don't think Littlefinger will wed Ceresi but I think Euron will. And now she will have an army strong enough to battle Danny with you combine it with the Littlefinger. That battle scene from water to land could be the best ever. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Bankz on Jun 27, 2016 15:25:56 GMT -6
9) I want to see more Sand Snake boobies next season. I would also like to see Sansa naked. I feel like we are owed both.
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Post by Druce on Jun 27, 2016 15:46:51 GMT -6
My thoughts... 1) I didn't like the final smirk to Bran by his uncle. I feel like he's not really working with The North and this is a huge twist now that he's dead. It may be as simple as wanting Bran to enter the wall to remove the magic powers. But one would hope Bran would be able to see that vision and not do that. idk i'm super interested in his role next season. At this point he's the only living person in the world who knows Jon's true bloodline. 2) Arya has lost her innocence. She's now a stone cold killer. 3) Varys on the ship threw me off some. One would assume he's negotiating a landing port for Danny and her army. I may be wrong since i'm not sure how the map lays out. But its clear Ceresi better load up on a army because at this point she's going to be murdered. 4) When Jon is made King of the North that freaking scene was nearly identical to his brothers. But Jon has no fear unlike his brother. If you go back and watch the very first scene of the show where Jon, Bran and Robb the death never affected Jon but Robb was shaken. 5) Someone mentioned Sansa's look. I think she understands how evil the people her brother will be facing. And she's lost everyone. Her look to Littlefinger was one of knowing he's going to come after Jon. I'm not sure if we discussed this in this thread or in another but I said that Littlefinger's end goal was to sit on the throne. He said it in S1 and he confirmed it last night. He didn't think the North would unite behind a "bastard" but they did right in front of his face. Its taken away his leverage and angle to take the North and Vale with Sansa. 6) That leads me to "what will Littlefinger do?" I think we could easily see him offer his services to Danny. And by Services I mean his hand in marriage. But she's surrounded by people who will make that impossible for Littlefinger. To me that only leaves Ceresi. 7) Speaking of Ceresi, what a horrible, terrible bitch. But what a smart and now powerful one. I feel like Jamie will walk away from her. He's transformed from a evil man who would shove a boy out a tower with no remorse to a man who takes pride in his honor and doing what is right. He kept his word and never raised arms against Blackfish and he's so offended being compared to the Frey's and being a King Slayer. 8) Euron... I think the ship has sailed on him being able to unite with Danny. I don't think Littlefinger will wed Ceresi but I think Euron will. And now she will have an army strong enough to battle Danny with you combine it with the Littlefinger. That battle scene from water to land could be the best ever. Looking forward to it. I felt the same way about #1, but I brought it up to Majic and he told me that Coldhands or whatever the character he's playing now is called in the books wouldn't possibly be plotting against Bran |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 27, 2016 15:58:14 GMT -6
Benjen isnt coldhands in the book i dont think.
No way Dany marries Euron IMO. Dany has already teamed up with Theon and Asha.
I dont understand how LF would be able to marry Dany if Robin is the Lord of Eyrie.
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Post by Druce on Jun 27, 2016 16:03:54 GMT -6
Benjen isnt coldhands in the book i dont think. No way Dany marries Euron IMO. Dany has already teamed up with Theon and Asha. I dont understand how LF would be able to marry Dany if Robin is the Lord of Eyrie. right, but i believe the show has morphed benjen and cold hands. agree that theres no way dany would marry euron, there is nothing to be gained politically from that. they sail to the iron islands, take them back for yara and theon and go on their way having that alliance in their pocket as well. marrying little finger also does little to nothing for dany having tyrion and varys already with her. the logical marriage is to jon snow uniting westeros and the north |
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Post by Bruns on Jun 27, 2016 16:31:24 GMT -6
1. Howland Reed knows who jon's parents are. WTF are u Howland?!
4. Don't totally agree. Jon might be more stone faced but Robb was a bad ass warrior as well. Never lost a battle and showed no fear on the battlefield. Pussy will kill u doe.
5. It kinda looked to me that Sansa was a bit jealous of the attention Jon was getting as well as LF. I'm very curious what her and LF will do from here on out. Hope Sansa will stay loyal to Jon but I have my doubts.
7. What a badass episode from Cersei. Even that dress was bad ass. I think Jamie will turn on her now as well now that he's 2nd coming of Ned Stark. Chivalry.
8. Euron obviously has to go against Danny and her dragons now. Maybe we'll get a big ass battle on the sea or he'll be waiting in Kings Landing for them. Hopefully show leaves out the dragon horn pretty please.
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Post by Bruns on Jun 27, 2016 16:32:18 GMT -6
Also in the book they haven't came out yet and saying Cold Hands was Benjen Stark but all book fags believe this to be true.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 16:38:30 GMT -6
Howland Reed is up in his floating castle not giving a fuck
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 27, 2016 17:05:13 GMT -6
yeah to me it looked like Peter was giving Sansa a "I told you so " and "are you thinking what I'm thinking" look
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Post by Bankz on Jun 27, 2016 17:41:21 GMT -6
yeah to me it looked like Peter was giving Sansa a "I told you so " and "are you thinking what I'm thinking" look But he didn't tell her so... He infact said the opposite. He told her his dream was to sit on throne with her as Queen of the North and Him King. He said that the North wouldn't follow a bastard and she needed to take the role as Queen. Yet the North united around Jon. Rewatch the scene. Its starts with the members talking and the leader of the Vale says they refuse to fight with wildings. Jon stands up and makes the case for them and it cuts to Littlefinger with a pfft look on his face. Jon goes on to warn the families about the real war and how it's coming and Littlefinger is looking around getting a gauge on the room. That bad ass Lyanna of Mormont stands up and makes a case for rails against the group. Sansa smiles when she says the King of the North with be a Stark and then goes stone faced (more on this in a bit) when she says its Jon. Wyman Manderly gets up and calls Jon Snow the White Wolf (fuck yeah) and pledges his allegiance. They pan to littlefinger who has a "of fuck me" look on his face. As the group chants "the king of the north" Jon stands up and looks to Sansa and she looks up with a glowing smile. Her smile quickly fades when she see's littlefinger "meh" look on his face. To me her reaction isn't one of jealousy but one of knowing how evil Littlefinger is and seeing his unimpressed reaction instantly makes her feel uneasy for what Jon has ahead of himself. |
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Post by MistleTacoe on Jun 27, 2016 19:39:35 GMT -6
Also in the book they haven't came out yet and saying Cold Hands was Benjen Stark but all book fags believe this to be true. All the bookfags believe it to be true but Martin explicitly said in one of his edits that it wasn't Benjen. You can google it. He gave a copy to his editor who asked if Coldhands was Benjen and he said no emphatically. Its a shortcut that the show has taken which makes it easier to understand for showfags |
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Post by Bankz on Jun 27, 2016 20:33:45 GMT -6
So if Benjen isn't coldhands i'm more inclined to belive he's working for the white walkers.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 27, 2016 21:11:09 GMT -6
So if Benjen isn't coldhands i'm more inclined to belive he's working for the white walkers. He's not |
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Post by Majic on Jun 28, 2016 6:07:29 GMT -6
So if Benjen isn't coldhands i'm more inclined to belive he's working for the white walkers. He's not its been confirmed Coldhands is Benjen Stark. the books haven't revealed it yet but it was one of the reveals the show did before the book got a chance |
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Post by Majic on Jun 28, 2016 7:53:06 GMT -6
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 28, 2016 8:04:38 GMT -6
So if Benjen isn't coldhands i'm more inclined to belive he's working for the white walkers. The show doesn't have a Coldhands, but the show is basically combing the characters. That doesn't mean that the walkers couldn't be using BenHands to help Bran go south of the wall and break the magic spells like he did in the cave. |
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Post by Majic on Jun 28, 2016 8:22:18 GMT -6
So if Benjen isn't coldhands i'm more inclined to belive he's working for the white walkers. The show doesn't have a Coldhands, but the show is basically combing the characters. That doesn't mean that the walkers couldn't be using BenHands to help Bran go south of the wall and break the magic spells like he did in the cave. he literally said in the show his name is "Coldhands Stark" plus Bran referred to him as uncle a couple times |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 28, 2016 8:23:59 GMT -6
The show doesn't have a Coldhands, but the show is basically combing the characters. That doesn't mean that the walkers couldn't be using BenHands to help Bran go south of the wall and break the magic spells like he did in the cave. he literally said in the show his name is "Coldhands Stark" plus Bran referred to him as uncle a couple times Who said his name is Coldhands Stark? Bran referred to him as Uncle Benjen the whole time. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jun 28, 2016 8:27:09 GMT -6
I think that the show took the concept of Coldhands and used a familiar face and a familiar actor in Benjen to play the role. No different than using the Frey pie concept in a slightly different way or having the little birds murder Pycelle in the show instead of having them murder Uncle Kevan like they do in the books. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jun 28, 2016 13:14:44 GMT -6
its been confirmed Coldhands is Benjen Stark. the books haven't revealed it yet but it was one of the reveals the show did before the book got a chance I meant he's not working with the white walkers. |
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Post by Majic on Jun 28, 2016 13:32:07 GMT -6
its been confirmed Coldhands is Benjen Stark. the books haven't revealed it yet but it was one of the reveals the show did before the book got a chance I meant he's not working with the white walkers. didnt mean to quote you Soup meant that to the previous comment that you quoted but yes you are right |
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