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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:24:21 GMT -6
SPL did seem to be trusting of Heebs, so I think we would've gotten it in the final vote I feel I really did want to let you live to the last day. I felt SPL and Heebs were more trusting of each other than me. You're always difficult to read, but you seemed to favor me over Fecta and SPL. The deliberation during the day might've changed my opinion because I wasn't strong on either, but I was leaning more SPL. Canes, if heebs was mafia killed would he have been able to get his vigilante kill as well? |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:26:18 GMT -6
Canes list all the roles you handed out and who had them Civs Cop-pete bodyguard-delap masked vigilante- heebs ability for dead civs to send 1 message to town after day 3 Mafia barman-jhb silencer-gbg timpig-don |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:27:03 GMT -6
I feel I really did want to let you live to the last day. I felt SPL and Heebs were more trusting of each other than me. You're always difficult to read, but you seemed to favor me over Fecta and SPL. The deliberation during the day might've changed my opinion because I wasn't strong on either, but I was leaning more SPL. Canes, if heebs was mafia killed would he have been able to get his vigilante kill as well? no. he went last. that was how I tried to balance his power |
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Post by FectaDEEZ on Jul 19, 2017 9:27:35 GMT -6
Told y'all motherfuckers
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:27:38 GMT -6
You're right about this - it's basically the Monty Hall probability problem but with even more info provided. But you still acted completely on your own accord and without assistance from Pete which was risky. I asked Pete for input before the day was over. Pete didn't give input. When Canes asked for my night move, I told him I needed to review the thread for what Pete had said. Saying I didn't try to take Pete's input into account is ignorant. You asked like 2 minutes before the timer expired. The prudent move would have been to stop the majority timer and get Pete's input before ending the day. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:27:56 GMT -6
given the kill last night... should the bodyguard protect timpig or spl... one of the quiet ones? or just go random? Delap was a little too on the nose w/ this post. If he had survived one more night we would've locked it up |
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:28:02 GMT -6
Where was the other secret role that supposedly existed the dead civs having a chance to talk to the town Thought so but wanted to make sure |
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Post by eric on Jul 19, 2017 9:28:22 GMT -6
gotta tip my hat to 20s on this one, when he's right he's right: That was in response to his novel trying to paint me as mafia (where he was wrong). that's the joke |
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:30:07 GMT -6
I dont mind secret roles
I dont mind secret vigilantes
But i dont think it was the best way to introduce a new role. Live and learn imo
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:32:00 GMT -6
I dont mind secret roles I dont mind secret vigilantes But i dont think it was the best way to introduce a new role. Live and learn imo I absolutely think it could have been done better. It also would have been nice if the guy who got the power didn't blow away bankz on night 1 for no reason and send the game into immediate chaos. when I thought of the idea my hope was that the person who got the role would wait for the right time, kill somone and then fade back into the game without revealing himself. heebs went full leroy jenkins with that idea |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:33:31 GMT -6
That was in response to his novel trying to paint me as mafia (where he was wrong). Sorry for killing you. You said too many nice things about me and as a self-loathing jew I don't trust that I had no issue with you killing me. The purpose of my action was to try to provide more info to you and put my trust in you to find the Don. I wanted you to have the most info possible so you could think the clearest. If you had doubts about me in your gut after my actions, that was valuable info for you to have my role verified. Obviously, in hindsight, I should have just stuck with my vote on TimPig and the game would have ended, but him voting for Fecta instead of me was a good play. I also truly believed I would die via herb's bullet on Night 4 anyway and didn't want our last chance wasted on me there, either. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:33:55 GMT -6
For future reference, I think if the cop finds a mafia member and is ready to come forward with the info, they should definitely wait until towards the end of a round once votes have been cast. I really screwed that up this time and cost the town a valuable day of voting intel
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:34:23 GMT -6
I thought it was well run, Canes. I liked the confusion. I thought JHB did a pretty good job once he was outed.
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Post by Delap on Jul 19, 2017 9:36:07 GMT -6
i enjoyed it, honestly.
i think we are ready for a few more roles.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:36:58 GMT -6
so the dead civs didn't feel like contributing to the discussion?
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:37:05 GMT -6
I asked Pete for input before the day was over. Pete didn't give input. When Canes asked for my night move, I told him I needed to review the thread for what Pete had said. Saying I didn't try to take Pete's input into account is ignorant. You asked like 2 minutes before the timer expired. The prudent move would have been to stop the majority timer and get Pete's input before ending the day. Two things: when I was typing that post I didn't know we were on a majority timer. And I didn't even vote, so I couldn't have stopped the majority timer. |
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Post by SPL on Jul 19, 2017 9:39:11 GMT -6
Sorry for killing you. You said too many nice things about me and as a self-loathing jew I don't trust that I had no issue with you killing me. The purpose of my action was to try to provide more info to you and put my trust in you to find the Don. I wanted you to have the most info possible so you could think the clearest. If you had doubts about me in your gut after my actions, that was valuable info for you to have my role verified. Obviously, in hindsight, I should have just stuck with my vote on TimPig and the game would have ended, but him voting for Fecta instead of me was a good play. I also truly believed I would die via herb's bullet on Night 4 anyway and didn't want our last chance wasted on me there, either. I am sorry as well, I just did not have a good read on you. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:39:12 GMT -6
So which cheeser will herb accuse me of being next game?
It's like the boy who cried wolf - at what point do his accusations of me as mafia start to become meaningless?
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Post by SPL on Jul 19, 2017 9:39:35 GMT -6
I was convinced that Heebs was a secret role and I would have voted timpig on the last day.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:39:46 GMT -6
Also if you don't love it leave it, central time zone #1
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:39:51 GMT -6
appreciated. I wanted to change it up a bit because it seemed like the civs had pretty much played the same game since we started. obviously there is room for improvement. Next time I run a game it will be a bit more transparent to feel more like an extra layer instead of just added confusion
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Post by 20s Navidad on Jul 19, 2017 9:40:30 GMT -6
You asked like 2 minutes before the timer expired. The prudent move would have been to stop the majority timer and get Pete's input before ending the day. Two things: when I was typing that post I didn't know we were on a majority timer. And I didn't even vote, so I couldn't have stopped the majority timer. Didn't realize you hadn't voted - I retract that unfair criticism. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:41:26 GMT -6
so the dead civs didn't feel like contributing to the discussion? I think they were saving it. |
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 9:41:32 GMT -6
appreciated. I wanted to change it up a bit because it seemed like the civs had pretty much played the same game since we started. obviously there is room for improvement. Next time I run a game it will be a bit more transparent to feel more like an extra layer instead of just added confusion Like I said, I think you would've been fine to introduce the secret role w/o telling us exactly what it was, but in that case I think it would make more sense to allow the cop the ability to learn the details with an investigation |
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Post by Citizen Cane on Jul 19, 2017 9:43:14 GMT -6
appreciated. I wanted to change it up a bit because it seemed like the civs had pretty much played the same game since we started. obviously there is room for improvement. Next time I run a game it will be a bit more transparent to feel more like an extra layer instead of just added confusion Like I said, I think you would've been fine to introduce the secret role w/o telling us exactly what it was, but in that case I think it would make more sense to allow the cop the ability to learn the details with an investigation agreed. It should have been either or. I'll take the blame on that one. |
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 9:43:27 GMT -6
so the dead civs didn't feel like contributing to the discussion? We all had to agree on the message. All we agreed on was that we should wait to figure out what we would say |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 9:45:06 GMT -6
I also truly believed I would die via herb's bullet on Night 4 anyway and didn't want our last chance wasted on me there, either. I would have definitely killed you over TimPig if you were still around. So that was a good play on your part. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 9:46:27 GMT -6
that game had so many twists and turns. we were a changed decision away from pete being barmanned on night one and JHB being safe for at least another day We changed our decision from 20's to Odin, not from Pete. |
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Post by Delap on Jul 19, 2017 9:46:30 GMT -6
Odin getting himself admin killed is not being discussed enough. It's selfish as hell and really hurts the town.
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 9:48:22 GMT -6
given the kill last night... should the bodyguard protect timpig or spl... one of the quiet ones? or just go random? Delap was a little too on the nose w/ this post. If he had survived one more night we would've locked it up Yeah, JHB and GBG were pretty confident that Delap was the bodyguard at this point, and it sealed the deal for me. As far as threats, I would've wanted to kill a couple other people before Delap, but when we agreed completely that he was BG, there was no other option. |
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