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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 10:52:19 GMT -6
I had plenty of reason. He tied the vote on Day 1 to keep GBG, who was confirmed mafia, from being the leading vote getter. He's also the loudest guy in the room and uses emotion or gut instinct more than reason. You are so terrible you can't even lie correctly about why you did what you did. GBG and JHB were tied at 3-3 when I slid my vote to Delap to make it 3-3 GBG, JHB, Delap. At that point I wanted to see who was going to move off who. I had a good feeling GBG was mafia at that point because of his RNG bullshit. Tim also was on my radar at that point because I voted for Soup and my reason was weak. No one should've followed me at that point but Tim did. Your sole reason for killing me is because I hurt your feelings and called you the worst Mafia player and you wanted to see me pissed off. And even that didn't work because I wasn't pissed YOU killed me. I was pissed Canes ran a sloppy game. Right. I forgot the specifics, but the rationale still applies. From my vantage you voted to protect GBG, who was known mafia during night 1. Thanks for proving my point, Bankz. I appreciate it. |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 10:54:30 GMT -6
20s Navidad Kind of a funny thing - you got on me on Day 3 for being inactive. On Day 1 GBG said I was too active and it was going to raise alarm. You following me voting for Soup round 1 was what put me on you round 1. You also were one of the first to feel confident that Canes changed the game up when no one else really knew what the hell was going on. What convinced me in the end that you were the Don was the lack of conversations you were in towards the end. It reminded me of when we were both Mafia and how you waited for the town to find a target and just co-sign off that. |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 10:55:20 GMT -6
I had plenty of reason. He tied the vote on Day 1 to keep GBG, who was confirmed mafia, from being the leading vote getter. He's also the loudest guy in the room and uses emotion or gut instinct more than reason. You are so terrible you can't even lie correctly about why you did what you did. GBG and JHB were tied at 3-3 when I slid my vote to Delap to make it 3-3 GBG, JHB, Delap. At that point I wanted to see who was going to move off who. I had a good feeling GBG was mafia at that point because of his RNG bullshit. Tim also was on my radar at that point because I voted for Soup and my reason was weak. No one should've followed me at that point but Tim did. Your sole reason for killing me is because I hurt your feelings and called you the worst Mafia player and you wanted to see me pissed off. And even that didn't work because I wasn't pissed YOU killed me. I was pissed Canes ran a sloppy game. Looking back on it now, I can see how you may have thought it was a follow vote but it wasn't. Soup posted a couple times immediately after the thread opened, then pretty much went quiet. He's usually shit-talking up a storm for the entirety of the game so I did find it odd. The mafia agreed that Soup was suspiciously quiet, and when I placed my vote for him the tally was so close that nothing could really be called a "throwaway vote". I just wanted to stay off the radar there and get a vote in before anything I did could be deemed too telling in the future. |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 10:56:10 GMT -6
That's interesting to me. I am pretty much always on here, but when it comes to Mafia I've been called inactive in multiple games. I would bet you were mafia or civ power roles in those games. I've been mafia I think three times now, but never power civ  |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 10:56:25 GMT -6
20s Navidad Kind of a funny thing - you got on me on Day 3 for being inactive. On Day 1 GBG said I was too active and it was going to raise alarm. You following me voting for Soup round 1 was what put me on you round 1. Tim said he was voting for Soup because he was usually more active than he had been. He wasn't following you. |
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Post by eric on Jul 19, 2017 10:57:41 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 10:58:56 GMT -6
"I was on GBG and Tim on day 1, but I voted for Delap instead"
Literally Bankz.
Your biggest problem in this game, Bankz, is not realizing you and everyone else is more often than not wrong. It's not something to hold against them, it is a condition of the game.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 10:59:27 GMT -6
Guys, I'm going to continue to RNG my first vote of the game every time. I'm not going to screen grab either. You can continue to kill me for it if you want, but I'm going to be a civ more often than I will be mafia.
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 11:00:19 GMT -6
You following me voting for Soup round 1 was what put me on you round 1. Tim said he was voting for Soup because he was usually more active than he had been. He wasn't following you. hey dumbass thats the exact reason I gave for voting for Soup like 20 minutes before Tim did the same thing. |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 11:01:59 GMT -6
"I was on GBG and Tim on day 1, but I voted for Delap instead" Literally Bankz. Your biggest problem in this game, Bankz, is not realizing you and everyone else is more often than not wrong. It's not something to hold against them, it is a condition of the game. Yeah I make moves to see the reaction of others so I can gain more information on who is aligned where. It's a crazy concept that low tier players like you wouldn't understand. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 11:02:31 GMT -6
Tim has games where he is active, and games where he slides under the cracks. JHB and Tim were blowing up the thread early on. I just suggested they throttle down a little bit, because the two of them were posting as much as everyone else in the thread combined. JHB and, to a lesser extent, I warned him that he needed to post something in the later rounds before he got called out for being too inactive.
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Post by Lazy Pete on Jul 19, 2017 11:04:01 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting I think it's fine to do, but I don't think announcing it gives your vote more or less credibility. All reasoning in round 1 is bullshit stuff anyway |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 11:05:38 GMT -6
You are so terrible you can't even lie correctly about why you did what you did. GBG and JHB were tied at 3-3 when I slid my vote to Delap to make it 3-3 GBG, JHB, Delap. At that point I wanted to see who was going to move off who. I had a good feeling GBG was mafia at that point because of his RNG bullshit. Tim also was on my radar at that point because I voted for Soup and my reason was weak. No one should've followed me at that point but Tim did. Your sole reason for killing me is because I hurt your feelings and called you the worst Mafia player and you wanted to see me pissed off. And even that didn't work because I wasn't pissed YOU killed me. I was pissed Canes ran a sloppy game. Looking back on it now, I can see how you may have thought it was a follow vote but it wasn't. Soup posted a couple times immediately after the thread opened, then pretty much went quiet. He's usually shit-talking up a storm for the entirety of the game so I did find it odd. The mafia agreed that Soup was suspiciously quiet, and when I placed my vote for him the tally was so close that nothing could really be called a "throwaway vote". I just wanted to stay off the radar there and get a vote in before anything I did could be deemed too telling in the future. Yeah but Soup became active shortly after you placed your vote. It got a reaction out of him. He even went as far as threatening pulling the power hour because of the vote you made. He made zero efforts to sway my vote. You had plenty of time to move your vote off soup from that point but stuck with soup. That alone wasn't enough at the time for me to say Tim is 100% Mafia. But it was something that put you on my list. The other items also factored in when I made the call yesterday that you were the don. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 19, 2017 11:06:26 GMT -6
Hey fecta why aren't you responding to my PM's
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 11:07:01 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting I'm torn here. There's never anything to go off of on Day 1 except personal vendettas, RNG, and voting off quiet folks unless someone does something really dumb to blow up their spot. Voting off quiet folks seems to be the best method IMO, but it never seems to gain any traction because enough people go for personal stuff or read way too deeply into something that isn't there. |
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Post by Heebs on Jul 19, 2017 11:07:37 GMT -6
"I was on GBG and Tim on day 1, but I voted for Delap instead" Literally Bankz. Your biggest problem in this game, Bankz, is not realizing you and everyone else is more often than not wrong. It's not something to hold against them, it is a condition of the game. Yeah I make moves to see the reaction of others so I can gain more information on who is aligned where. It's a crazy concept that low tier players like you wouldn't understand. If you think GBG is mafia, you put him in the fire by voting for him. You don't create a three way tie. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 11:07:46 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting I think it's fine to do, but I don't think announcing it gives your vote more or less credibility. All reasoning in round 1 is bullshit stuff anyway Right, it's just a way to make a vote on day one when there is little to no reliable information (unless BK is in the game). |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 19, 2017 11:08:28 GMT -6
Don't let people get by without giving a reason for their vote IMO.
The more people say the more they reveal who they are.
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 11:08:31 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting Going RNG does nothing to build the case you are a civilian. For that reason alone I feel like going that route should put you at the top of the chopping block. |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 11:10:12 GMT -6
Looking back on it now, I can see how you may have thought it was a follow vote but it wasn't. Soup posted a couple times immediately after the thread opened, then pretty much went quiet. He's usually shit-talking up a storm for the entirety of the game so I did find it odd. The mafia agreed that Soup was suspiciously quiet, and when I placed my vote for him the tally was so close that nothing could really be called a "throwaway vote". I just wanted to stay off the radar there and get a vote in before anything I did could be deemed too telling in the future. Yeah but Soup became active shortly after you placed your vote. It got a reaction out of him. He even went as far as threatening pulling the power hour because of the vote you made. He made zero efforts to sway my vote. You had plenty of time to move your vote off soup from that point but stuck with soup. That alone wasn't enough at the time for me to say Tim is 100% Mafia. But it was something that put you on my list. The other items also factored in when I made the call yesterday that you were the don. Yeah, like I said, I get it. I'm always opposed to doing much switching on Day 1 because it just gives people ideas. If I'm Mafia, I don't want to draw attention. If I'm Civ, I don't want people to jump on me for it. I figured Soup threatening to pull the power hour was a joke (hence the response about Rachel), but he said he'd do it only if he was lynched. Had other people gone at him at that point, I legitimately may have considered changing my vote. My idea was place the vote early enough so that it doesn't look like a throwaway, but then if for some reason people did start voting Soup, I'd change because I had no legit reason to vote for him. When people didn't jump on the bandwagon, it amounted to a throwaway. |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on Jul 19, 2017 11:10:18 GMT -6
Also, delap maybe not so heavy handed next time on the BG role. Asking everyone how to do your job was a bit obvious
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 11:12:17 GMT -6
Want to ask the town's opinion:
JHB and GBG were going to go at each other early to throw people off the scent (and because they do it in basically every game). When JHB switched his vote away from GBG, did that raise a lot of eyebrows? Unfortunately I think missing the jokes in Heebs' RNG post (which I also did) had bigger consequences than we would've thought.
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 11:12:46 GMT -6
civilians should want an actual voting history and going rng day 1 starts establishing that a day later. it favors the mafia imo
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 11:13:01 GMT -6
I wonder if things would have gone differently if JHB hadn't gone and told everyone that Heebs was the vigilante. We figured that out, and we were discussing the benefits or disadvantages of killing the vigilante in the night period. When JHB went down, he definitely created a lot of confusion and misinformation eventually got Fecta killed, but I wonder if we had taken out Heebs without telling everybody that he was the vigilante if we could have pulled off a victory.
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Post by Odin on Jul 19, 2017 11:13:29 GMT -6
Want to ask the town's opinion: JHB and GBG were going to go at each other early to throw people off the scent (and because they do it in basically every game). When JHB switched his vote away from GBG, did that raise a lot of eyebrows? Unfortunately I think missing the jokes in Heebs' RNG post (which I also did) had bigger consequences than we would've thought. i didn't even notice it because of how many switched at once |
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Post by TimPig on Jul 19, 2017 11:15:21 GMT -6
I was AFK when JHB did the fake PM post. Never thought that would've gotten anywhere, but when he was on the chopping block and getting any sort of credibility/influence would have been nearly impossible, it seemed to have at least a small effect in the later rounds. Surprisingly nice move.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jul 19, 2017 11:17:05 GMT -6
i'm interested to hear more peoples' thoughts on RNG day 1 voting Going RNG does nothing to build the case you are a civilian. For that reason alone I feel like going that route should put you at the top of the chopping block. What it does do, when you're a civ, is put votes on people who may or may not have had votes before to see how they react to potentially being killed. Getting personal and voting for the same person every day 1 or telling people you're voting for them because you think they are a shitty player only creates enemies and gives other people an excuse to try to kill you. |
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Post by Bankz on Jul 19, 2017 11:21:02 GMT -6
Yeah I make moves to see the reaction of others so I can gain more information on who is aligned where. It's a crazy concept that low tier players like you wouldn't understand. If you think GBG is mafia, you put him in the fire by voting for him. You don't create a three way tie. He was already in the fire... Making it a three way tie puts more people in the pool to switch votes and gives more information. Delap and JHB casting a vote in OT was expected... It was Odin vote that gave us another piece of info. They all voted GBG so clearly the vast majority of the members felt GBG was mafia at that point so my play was a good one. Again you are a simple mind... |
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Post by SPL on Jul 19, 2017 11:27:00 GMT -6
on the BG role, if he thought he had a chance to be hit by the mob, could he put the protection on himself and if mafia hits him, he takes out a mafia member with his death?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Jul 19, 2017 11:32:16 GMT -6
on the BG role, if he thought he had a chance to be hit by the mob, could he put the protection on himself and if mafia hits him, he takes out a mafia member with his death? No |
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