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Post by Odin on Feb 24, 2015 16:45:46 GMT -6
This is happening unless enough people say no.
1. Get rid of all current scouting
2. Have a draft camp that works something like:
The draft file is completed the day between TC and Sim 1. Seems like the ideal time to do it. 4 GMs (don't care who. conf finals participants maybe? or whatever) draft teams of twelve. Those four teams then do a triple round robin tournament with each round being posted at different points in the season. (Day 40, 80 and 120)
There will be purchasable scouting things that will be revealed in the thread and seen by everyone. Only players picked for the 4 teams will be included. Must be bought before the start of the playoffs.
Top 5 in following drills: bench (strength), vertical (jumping), lane agility (quickness) Along with that, I will choose 5 ratings (jumper, post d, whatever) and rank 8 players in the same manner used by the current scouting system. I choose the ratings and the players. You can pay to reveal the names on the list. The ratings will be different each year. prices tbd
that's about it. i think anything else would be too much. overall this would be about the same amount of scouting i've been doing but a bit more restricted. and it gets everything done before the playoffs so the draft will be able to move as fast as possible. would probably cut the length of the season by a day or two
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Post by Buster 5000 on Feb 24, 2015 16:57:24 GMT -6
I like it. Much better than the current scouting setup.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Feb 24, 2015 16:57:56 GMT -6
Draft file being done at the beginning of the season is my favorite part.
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Post by 20s Navidad on Feb 24, 2015 17:17:06 GMT -6
As I said in the other thread, I really like this idea.
So how would we only let the people who have purchased view the thread?
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Post by Odin on Feb 24, 2015 17:40:49 GMT -6
As I said in the other thread, I really like this idea. So how would we only let the people who have purchased view the thread? everyone can see it, which is a it off putting at first but those with the advantage of a higher pick will still have the advantage of a higher pick.
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Post by Citizen Cane on Feb 24, 2015 17:50:02 GMT -6
Would say need to mix conf champs and bottom 2 teams to make sure there isn't collusion and only late lotto players get chosen or whatever but I like the idea
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Post by 20s Navidad on Feb 24, 2015 17:51:44 GMT -6
Would say need to mix conf champs and bottom 2 teams to make sure there isn't collusion and only late lotto players get chosen or whatever but I like the idea yeah, because that would happen I like the idea of awarding the teams who did the best in the previous season (if they want to participate)
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Post by Trofie on Feb 24, 2015 18:04:29 GMT -6
Just do division winners
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 24, 2015 18:07:45 GMT -6
Would say need to mix conf champs and bottom 2 teams to make sure there isn't collusion and only late lotto players get chosen or whatever but I like the idea Even if there's only 3 teams that's 36 players. No collision will be going on.
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Post by IanBoyd on Feb 24, 2015 18:12:40 GMT -6
I feel like people are interested in see how the rooks do regardless of who will have what pick. No one is gonna fucking pick a bunch of C C C B- C 2nd round fillers so a division rival can't get to see how Gary Bossert performs against Kevin Durant
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Post by Heebs on Feb 24, 2015 18:18:50 GMT -6
How about this.
Winner of each division picks. 4 teams. Division whose team wins the tournament gets a reward - dump bucks, some kind of scouting bonus, etc.
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Post by Heynong Man on Feb 24, 2015 18:43:45 GMT -6
I'm in favor of the division winners
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Post by 20s Navidad on Feb 24, 2015 19:27:50 GMT -6
How about this. Winner of each division picks. 4 teams. Division whose team wins the tournament gets a reward - dump bucks, some kind of scouting bonus, etc. I almost posted something like this, but it would go against using different DCs to see all players with extended playing time. Too much incentive to play your best players max minutes and leave the other guys on the bench.
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Post by Odin on Feb 24, 2015 19:30:42 GMT -6
Yeah, I see no reason to give a reward to the winner.
except maybe to the players
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Post by Bankz on Feb 24, 2015 19:43:17 GMT -6
what would the cost be?
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Post by Odin on Feb 24, 2015 19:45:23 GMT -6
no clue. i'm open to suggestions.
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Post by Bankz on Feb 24, 2015 19:52:20 GMT -6
idk.. I feel like the info once purchased shouldn't be available to everyone in the league.
So with that in mind I would probably charge like 5k and the info only belongs to that GM. But multiple GMs can purchase or co-purchase the info
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Post by Heebs on Feb 24, 2015 19:53:55 GMT -6
Yeah, I see no reason to give a reward to the winner. except maybe to the players The reason I suggested it was to mitigate any suggestion of improper motive in a team selecting players. We could make a rule that that any player starting in game 1 cannot start in game 2. So each conference needs to construct their teams in game 1 and game 2 with a lot of thought. I really like the idea - but understand there are issues. I would like an opportunity to think about procedures we could use to make it work, because the comraderie within each division would be pretty cool through the season.
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Post by Heebs on Feb 24, 2015 20:01:33 GMT -6
no clue. i'm open to suggestions. The purchase of scouting info should go away, IMO. All GMs attend the scouting combine. We all get the same info.
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 24, 2015 20:02:37 GMT -6
This needs to be basic and not too deep. Too much info is going to be given out.
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Post by Heebs on Feb 24, 2015 20:04:00 GMT -6
This needs to be basic and not too deep. Too much info is going to be given out. How about 20k dump bucks for the cheat code? :)
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 24, 2015 20:05:41 GMT -6
This needs to be basic and not too deep. Too much info is going to be given out. How about 20k dump bucks for the cheat code? :) Post it. You won't be happy with the results, I promise.
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Post by Buster 5000 on Feb 24, 2015 20:09:45 GMT -6
Yeah, I see no reason to give a reward to the winner. except maybe to the players The reason I suggested it was to mitigate any suggestion of improper motive in a team selecting players. We could make a rule that that any player starting in game 1 cannot start in game 2. So each conference needs to construct their teams in game 1 and game 2 with a lot of thought. I really like the idea - but understand there are issues. I would like an opportunity to think about procedures we could use to make it work, because the comraderie within each division would be pretty cool through the season. I think you're over-thinking it. Just keep it simple.
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Post by Bankz on Feb 24, 2015 20:13:15 GMT -6
Well if we are going to keep it simple and everyone can see the results why charge? Keep it free
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 24, 2015 20:19:17 GMT -6
Well if we are going to keep it simple and everyone can see the results why charge? Keep it free I meant keep it simple as far as number of games, lineups, etc.
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Post by KwYawnza on Feb 25, 2015 7:32:11 GMT -6
Typical of the sim 1 percenters, trying to charge us little guys who just want to put a +5 in our players every so often out the ass so you can benefit.
Make it a variable rate charge on money already in the bank!
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Post by ANK1990 on Feb 25, 2015 9:29:51 GMT -6
I like the idea of having just 1 prospect game that gets posted for everybody to see.
Get rid of all other scouting.
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Post by Bankz on Feb 25, 2015 9:49:06 GMT -6
What if we just take 200 dump bucks from every GM in the league at season start as the charge for the Scouting info?
If doesn't fall on one guy to pay the fee (i don't find that fair) and since everyone gets the info that have some skin in the game... I think the total fee becomes almost 6k.
Thoughts?
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Post by Souper Troopers on Feb 25, 2015 9:53:50 GMT -6
What if we just take 200 dump bucks from every GM in the league at season start as the charge for the Scouting info? If doesn't fall on one guy to pay the fee (i don't find that fair) and since everyone gets the info that have some skin in the game... I think the total fee becomes almost 6k. Thoughts? Might as well charge nothing and save @dumptime the work.
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Post by Bankz on Feb 25, 2015 10:21:30 GMT -6
What if we just take 200 dump bucks from every GM in the league at season start as the charge for the Scouting info? If doesn't fall on one guy to pay the fee (i don't find that fair) and since everyone gets the info that have some skin in the game... I think the total fee becomes almost 6k. Thoughts? Might as well charge nothing and save @dumptime the work. Well that was my stance yesterday... But seriously how is it fair for a single GM to pay a fee and yet the entire league gains benefit from it. You either pay per view or make it free IMHO
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