Buster 5000
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Post by Buster 5000 on May 3, 2016 20:05:18 GMT -6
"An object in motion stays in motion."
-anonymous
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Post by dilworth on May 3, 2016 20:05:39 GMT -6
It was only a matter of time before everyone falls for the power handed to them. Dil is the early benefactor and Eric could be down the road. But the entire league as a whole will suffer. Couldn't read this with a straight face |
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Post by [Account Deleted] on May 3, 2016 20:06:41 GMT -6
This was a bullshit move by eric
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Post by Heynong Man on May 3, 2016 20:09:15 GMT -6
this seems pretty fucked up
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Trofie
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Post by Trofie on May 3, 2016 20:21:57 GMT -6
I don't know why but this is the most sim mad I think I've ever been  |
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 3, 2016 20:22:26 GMT -6
ericgate has arrived
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Post by 20s Navidad on May 3, 2016 20:35:47 GMT -6
Sim as if you were to die tomorrow
Learn as if you were to sim forever.
-Mahatma Gandhi
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Post by Odin on May 3, 2016 21:01:47 GMT -6
I have never been comfortable with someone who is actually a gm making the players. Unless we move to making players grades transparent soup needs to make the players.
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:08:48 GMT -6
Here's what I'm doing. Getting rid of 0/0/0 players. Giving Eric refund. Randomizing Jesse's greed/loyalty/playing for a winner. Randomize his home team.
From now on, no PG/SG/G will be made with higher than 60 shot blocking.
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:09:36 GMT -6
I have never been comfortable with someone who is actually a gm making the players. Unless we move to making players grades transparent soup needs to make the players. You can run countless sims with file I give you for summer league. Him making players isn't a problem. |
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 3, 2016 21:12:23 GMT -6
are you getting rid of current 0/0/0 guys as well?
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:13:16 GMT -6
are you getting rid of current 0/0/0 guys as well? I'm contemplating that as well as lowering shot blocking cap of current PGs. Not sure if that's fair or not. |
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Post by 20s Navidad on May 3, 2016 21:14:20 GMT -6
I wouldn't mess with current PGs' shot blocking ratings
I don't care about if you change 0/0/0
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Post by Heebs on May 3, 2016 21:17:44 GMT -6
Nice hot fix to the glitch.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 21:18:37 GMT -6
Here's what I'm doing. Getting rid of 0/0/0 players. Giving Eric refund. Randomizing Jesse's greed/loyalty/playing for a winner. Randomize his home team. From now on, no PG/SG/G will be made with higher than 60 shot blocking. Everything sounds good except for the refund but thats the smallest part Thanks soup |
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Post by Heebs on May 3, 2016 21:21:45 GMT -6
I wouldn't mess with current PGs' shot blocking ratings I don't care about if you change 0/0/0 I agree with 20s re PG blocking. I wouldn't make a decision on the 0/0/0 guys immediately. I would want to see info on whether they resign and what average resign is. If there is a material chance they resign at a bargain and never give their hometown a chance to sign them, it is an interesting gamble pick. At this point we all know the resigning advantage. If it turns out there is a potential benefit, let GMs take the risk of they want. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:23:37 GMT -6
No 0/0/0 is gone. There's a clear discount advantage of they choose to resign. Let's just elimate that drama all together.
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Post by ANK1990 on May 3, 2016 21:25:04 GMT -6
Top 4 of this draft are the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Bring on 5.0
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Post by Odin on May 3, 2016 21:27:43 GMT -6
I have never been comfortable with someone who is actually a gm making the players. Unless we move to making players grades transparent soup needs to make the players. You can run countless sims with file I give you for summer league. Him making players isn't a problem. when there's one person who can see the grades there is a problem. we need transparency if he keeps doing it. and you and i both know simming ahead means exactly shit and is a waste of time |
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Post by ANK1990 on May 3, 2016 21:30:10 GMT -6
I'd get rid of Epstein's blocks and maybe reduce the handling a touch.
If he's a stud scorer then so be it. The blocks are pure cheese and the incredibly low TOs are way out of line with how PGs are designed nowadays.
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:31:34 GMT -6
You can run countless sims with file I give you for summer league. Him making players isn't a problem. when there's one person who can see the grades there is a problem. we need transparency if he keeps doing it. and you and i both know simming ahead means exactly shit and is a waste of time Lol how is simming ahead shit and a waste of time? |
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 3, 2016 21:46:27 GMT -6
No 0/0/0 is gone. There's a clear discount advantage of they choose to resign. Let's just elimate that drama all together. Been on both sides of it with King and reeves. Id rather have to pay a max guy max money than take a 50/50 shot at either getting a bargain or losing him in FA. |
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Post by Odin on May 3, 2016 21:49:02 GMT -6
when there's one person who can see the grades there is a problem. we need transparency if he keeps doing it. and you and i both know simming ahead means exactly shit and is a waste of time Lol how is simming ahead shit and a waste of time? variance and TCs are wildly unreliable |
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 3, 2016 21:54:58 GMT -6
I don't even mean for that. But to see how players play with certain tactics/lineups in the current season.
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Post by Odin on May 3, 2016 22:01:46 GMT -6
I don't even mean for that. But to see how players play with certain tactics/lineups in the current season. true, but i didn't even know i could do it until you mentioned it yesterday |
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Post by ANK1990 on May 3, 2016 23:13:18 GMT -6
Live footage of Draft Master eric defending against inflation:  |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 23:15:31 GMT -6
Live footage of Draft Master eric defending against inflation:  |
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Post by KwYawnza on May 4, 2016 6:20:35 GMT -6
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Post by eric on May 4, 2016 8:50:22 GMT -6
I want to elaborate on some points that I don't think have been very well articulated so far.
1. I am not a crook
-I've been making draft guys for almost a sim decade. The biggest allegations of impropriety in the past were Joel Green, who is currently a 26 year old unsigned free agent, so I think it's fair to say there has been absolutely no evidence of impropriety in the past.
-Like Odin, I've been getting a game file to set up DCs for some seasons now. Unlike Odin, I have the tools to very promptly get extremely in depth data out of repeated sims: that's how I do all my research already. There is absolutely no evidence that I've done that either.
-I've been posting information about the software since I've been in the league. Nobody made me do that, and nobody could have prevented me from keeping information to myself.
I don't bring up these points to claim I act selflessly. I have been fairly compensated for my time and effort in each case. I bring them up to claim I do not act selfishly. In turn, I don't make this claim to say that I've been good for awhile so I'm justified in doing something bad now. I make this claim for the purpose of demonstrating that this act is not something bad at all.
2. Rewards and Costs
Everyone is fine with everyone using my information to devote Skill Camps to shot blocking, or at least no one has expressed a concern about it. Everyone is fine with everyone using my information to always trap and never press, or to do the reverse for tanking. It seems to me then that the real problem is not that I am using information that is available to everyone, but that the cost/benefit ratio is so different from the cost to relative gain of a shot blocking SC over a post defense SC. As such, I propose a compromise:
Jesse Epstein remains the same.
For the next four years, I am only allowed two skill camps per year instead of three.
For any year in which Jesse Epstein is on my team, I am only allowed two skill camps per year instead of three.
This changes the cost from 25,000 bucks to at a minimum 45,000 bucks, up to 75,000 bucks if he does leave the Rockets, and up to 105,000 if he signs and plays out a second six year deal with me.
My concern with Soup's solution is that it suggests a precedent of if everyone complains enough then players will be altered after the fact, and I don't think that's conducive to a fair league or (more importantly) a healthy environment. On the other hand, the reward of Jesse being more likely to sign with me can be fair in the same way that the reward of a shot blocking SC is fair: if the cost balances the benefit. That ratio is what I think we should focus the discussion on.
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 8:53:47 GMT -6
lol you're a god damn fucking idiot
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