victorj24
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Post by victorj24 on May 4, 2016 8:58:53 GMT -6
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 4, 2016 8:59:09 GMT -6
i dont think you're a crook. i think you have more integrity than most in this league.
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Bruns
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Post by Bruns on May 4, 2016 8:59:38 GMT -6
1. Don't think Eric is a crook
2. 0/0/0 needs to go
3. Jesse needs to be tweaked out of cheat code mode and more to a PG who would of been taken at 1.4
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:03:54 GMT -6
1. I don't think eric is a crook.
2. I think sharing everything about the software took a lot of the fun out of the league.
3. Making Epstein like that was a really dirty move, worse than most shit I've done in the league.
4. I still don't think he's a crook.
5. I like 0/0/0
6. Created players need to go
7. Epstein needs to be handled with a diaz/borat approach.
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 4, 2016 9:05:12 GMT -6
1. Don't think Eric is a crook 2. 0/0/0 needs to go 3. Jesse needs to be tweaked out of cheat code mode and more to a PG who would of been taken at 1.4 agree 100% with bruns other than the nerfing. I think his grades should be tweaked, but I have no problem with Epstein being the best player in this class/eventually being the best player in the league. I just don't think he should be nick diaz 2.0 from day 1 which seems to be the case. |
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Post by Bruns on May 4, 2016 9:07:40 GMT -6
I can agree with pretty much everything odin said.
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Post by Bruns on May 4, 2016 9:09:02 GMT -6
1. Don't think Eric is a crook 2. 0/0/0 needs to go 3. Jesse needs to be tweaked out of cheat code mode and more to a PG who would of been taken at 1.4 agree 100% with bruns other than the nerfing. I think his grades should be tweaked, but I have no problem with Epstein being the best player in this class/eventually being the best player in the league. I just don't think he should be nick diaz 2.0 from day 1 which seems to be the case. I literally said tweaked, not nerfed. |
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Post by gbgalla24 on May 4, 2016 9:10:02 GMT -6
Where were all these hall of fame prospects when I had my top 5 picks, Eric? Dick.
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:10:14 GMT -6
when i say i like 0/0/0 i mean the way fason does it, not the way i did it
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:11:00 GMT -6
Where were all these hall of fame prospects when I had my top 5 picks, Eric? Dick. You were too busy picking former Bulls |
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Post by gbgalla24 on May 4, 2016 9:11:37 GMT -6
I don't mean that, Eric, I appreciate everything you've done for the league, but rigging the system to make the superhuman most likely to end up on your team is the issue, more so than creating the superhuman prospect.
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:16:13 GMT -6
I've mentioned it a few times already but when we did tmbbsl i did the exact same thing. i found a way to make these prospects that would turn into 60/60 guys that hit 400 and walked constantly. no defense whatsoever but they ruined the league. i just don't want to see that happen here.
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 4, 2016 9:16:54 GMT -6
agree 100% with bruns other than the nerfing. I think his grades should be tweaked, but I have no problem with Epstein being the best player in this class/eventually being the best player in the league. I just don't think he should be nick diaz 2.0 from day 1 which seems to be the case. I literally said tweaked, not nerfed. yea you did, I just meant that I don't think epstein needs to be tweaked to the 4th best player in the draft. I just don't want Nick Diaz 2.0 from day 1. |
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Post by eric on May 4, 2016 9:24:14 GMT -6
I really do appreciate everyone's comments. I don't mean that, Eric, I appreciate everything you've done for the league, but rigging the system to make the superhuman most likely to end up on your team is the issue, more so than creating the superhuman prospect. I hear you, but I want to insist on one point: I didn't rig the system. The software is what it is. I bought a reward that was available to anyone. If the reward should have cost more because we didn't know just how good it was until I researched it, then let's make it cost more. I'm fine with that being done retroactively, either how I suggested or some other way. I feel like in general games are better designed when we increase costs rather than reduce benefits. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:26:07 GMT -6
Technically designing a prospect lets you pick an existing draft prospect's letter grades
Ex: Dilworth did it to Darrell Floyd
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:26:20 GMT -6
You just exploited the system
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 4, 2016 9:27:02 GMT -6
Ex: Dilworth did it to Darrell Floyd wrong |
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Post by Lazy Pete on May 4, 2016 9:27:04 GMT -6
Just because you found a flaw in the software doesn't mean you have to exploit it. You're writing like you had no choice in the matter. You could've built him the exact same way but not done the 0/0/0 thing.
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 4, 2016 9:29:17 GMT -6
Just because you found a flaw in the software doesn't mean you have to exploit it. You're writing like you had no choice in the matter. You could've built him the exact same way but not done the 0/0/0 thing. this. and the reality is that it's not good for the health of the league for the "perfect" player to exist. Yea, its fun for whoever has the player on their roster, but for everyone else, it sucks |
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:32:44 GMT -6
or he could have not made him that good due to this morality thing he claims to have
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Post by Citizen Cane on May 4, 2016 9:38:01 GMT -6
or he could have not made him that good due to this morality thing he claims to have he got carried away. It happens. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:39:03 GMT -6
Ex: Dilworth did it to Darrell Floyd wrong The title of the reward is Design An EXISTING draft prospect Eric exploited the fact that he was DM when in actuality you should have made him |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:39:37 GMT -6
Also brings up the fact that we need to clean up the Rewards thread
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 4, 2016 9:43:36 GMT -6
The title of the reward is Design An EXISTING draft prospect Eric exploited the fact that he was DM when in actuality you should have made him what the fuck are you talking about? i said you were wrong about it being Dilworth. Run along, let the adults handle this. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 9:44:48 GMT -6
The title of the reward is Design An EXISTING draft prospect Eric exploited the fact that he was DM when in actuality you should have made him what the fuck are you talking about? i said you were wrong about it being Dilworth. Run along, let the adults handle this. Who the fuck else would design a random Furman player? |
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:44:54 GMT -6
he paid the price to create and design the prospect imo
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 4, 2016 9:45:41 GMT -6
he paid the price to create and design the prospect imo shhhhhhhhh |
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Post by eric on May 4, 2016 9:46:01 GMT -6
Just because you found a flaw in the software doesn't mean you have to exploit it. You're writing like you had no choice in the matter. You could've built him the exact same way but not done the 0/0/0 thing. I don't understand why this counts as a flaw, though, rather than working as intended. Shot Blocking is by far and away the most important defensive attribute for bigs, is that a flaw? Should we make Shot Blocking SCs cost more than Post Defense, or ban them outright? Should it be illegal for tanking teams to Always press, given what we know about that? These aren't rhetorical questions. I want to understand. or he could have not made him that good due to this morality thing he claims to have I don't understand this criticism. I've never claimed that Jesse isn't good. Even before preseason I declared he would be good in the trade block. I've also never claimed I don't stand to gain by the way Jesse is built, but what would be the point of a create a player reward if the GM buying it didn't get a reward out of it? I buy a skill camp, my team gets better. You buy blood spinning, your team gets better. Surely cost leading to reward is the essence of fairness, no? |
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Post by Odin on May 4, 2016 9:47:55 GMT -6
Just because you found a flaw in the software doesn't mean you have to exploit it. You're writing like you had no choice in the matter. You could've built him the exact same way but not done the 0/0/0 thing. I don't understand why this counts as a flaw, though, rather than working as intended. Shot Blocking is by far and away the most important defensive attribute for bigs, is that a flaw? Should we make Shot Blocking SCs cost more than Post Defense, or ban them outright? Should it be illegal for tanking teams to Always press, given what we know about that? These aren't rhetorical questions. I want to understand. or he could have not made him that good due to this morality thing he claims to have I don't understand this criticism. I've never claimed that Jesse isn't good. Even before preseason I declared he would be good in the trade block. I've also never claimed I don't stand to gain by the way Jesse is built, but what would be the point of a create a player reward if the GM buying it didn't get a reward out of it? I buy a skill camp, my team gets better. You buy blood spinning, your team gets better. Surely cost leading to reward is the essence of fairness, no? nope, i just put it there so people could have fun and something to spend dump bucks on other than upgrades. |
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Post by Souper Troopers on May 4, 2016 9:48:26 GMT -6
Technically designing a prospect lets you pick an existing draft prospect's letter grades Ex: Dilworth did it to Darrell Floyd Dirt designed Dutch Burch and make his build |
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